Has anybody successfully tapered off of lorazepam (Ativan)?

Posted by healthlady22 @healthlady22, Feb 5, 2019

Has anybody successfully managed to successfully wean off of Lorazepam?
If so how was it done?
And if it was by way of switching to other drugs, were you then able to taper off of those entirely under a doctor's guidance?
My husband has been on Lorazepam for 16 years
He did well for 14 years, but dragged his feet about trying to withdraw while he was feeling better.
In May he had a relapse of anxiety, and insomnia, with brain fog, heart palpitations, and more.
Currently he's doing better, thinking better, but still feels like crap a large part of the time, can't sleep without the drug, can't nap.and still struggles with anxiety.
At this point, I believe it's the drug that is actually causing the problem. Currently he's doing 1 mg at bedtime and 3/4 mg when he wakes up at 2:30 am.
I know it takes 2 years for the brains GABA receptors to normalize after taking Benzodiazepines.
Also know it's really hard to withdraw, has to be done extremely slowly, and the side effects are exactly the same as the symptoms it is meant to help.
My goal is to eventually wean him off of all drugs as functional health tests show they block his nutritional absorption and may be damaging his intestinal lining. I would like to be able to repair his health using nutrition, supplements, and neurotransmitter amino acids.
All feedback is welcomed!
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Profile picture for frouke @frouke

I wanted to share with you a very unpleasant experience recently with Ativan, I have been taking it for about 20 years and I use 0.5 twice daily and it usually helps me to calm my nervous system. The Ativan is a generic brand and I’ve used several over the years, I picked up my prescription from the pharmacy and they said it was a different brand but I was told I’ve used this one in the past so I wasn’t concerned. The first time I took the new prescription I felt bad, I could feel it take affect which felt like a cramping sensation in my arms and neck, it lasted a few minutes but I had a meltdown going through it, my heart was racing and anxiety was off the charts. I didn’t know if it was me or the Ativan but after I tried it again the same thing happened. I had a feeling it was the brand they gave me and I had to go through hoops to get help because they are so rigid with this medication, I was shocked the way they treated me, I was being scrutinized by the pharmacy and the doctor like a junky criminal, I don’t have any history with abusing my meds but they weren’t even looking at my credibility. I finally got my usual brand but I had no option but to take the other brand until they straightened things out. In the ensuing weeks I felt for the first time how powerful these meds really are, I’m still recovering from it. I always hope to get rid of them but between cancer and long covid I don’t have the strength inside to push myself, I curse the day I took my first dose, I also want to add that for those who have been blessed to get off them, never ever take even one dose because it will pull you back into using and I speak from experience, it’s like any addiction, you can never go back again.

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So sorry you have gone through this. I’m one of the lucky ones who weaned from this. Was prescribed for me when I got my cancer diagnosis. Happy to be off it; no more benzos for me!

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Profile picture for ch2232 @ch2232

Has anyone tapered from 0.5mg of lorazepam per day? Can you share your experience? Thank you.

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I think you’re one of the very lucky ones who conquered this addiction and I commend you. It’s a very difficult drug to get rid of but a great deal depends on how long you have been taking them as well as your age and general health, it makes a huge difference in the outcome.

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Profile picture for frouke @frouke

I think you’re one of the very lucky ones who conquered this addiction and I commend you. It’s a very difficult drug to get rid of but a great deal depends on how long you have been taking them as well as your age and general health, it makes a huge difference in the outcome.

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I’m 69 and had been on it for about 3 years. Was relying on it for sleep but stopped working. The second time weaning worked; did it very slowly

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Profile picture for frouke @frouke

I think you’re one of the very lucky ones who conquered this addiction and I commend you. It’s a very difficult drug to get rid of but a great deal depends on how long you have been taking them as well as your age and general health, it makes a huge difference in the outcome.

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My doctor's group includes pharmacist. I have been working with her to wean down my Effexor dosage. She has respected my wish to do so slowly, Next up will be lorazepam. If your doctor is part of a big group, ask if your withdrawal can be supervised by a pharmacist,

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Profile picture for ch2232 @ch2232

Has anyone tapered from 0.5mg of lorazepam per day? Can you share your experience? Thank you.

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Thanks for the info, my family doctor is not knowledgeable about weaning and after many arguments between us he did give the pharmacy permission to control my usage, it’s fairly workable for the most part but I mentioned in a previous message that they had changed the brand I was on and I reacted to it, they said it was due to each company uses different fillers and I had a nasty side effect from it. I’m currently trying to reduce my dose from 0.5 twice daily to 0.5 once per day. I know that I need more guidance with it and I use the internet for advice. I have always been on the same dose for a few years now but before I got sick I was on a higher dose so I’ve been on this drug for over twenty years. I hope to be able to get off them forever but I know I’ll have a struggle because it helps to wean slowly but another med is needed to help give me some more strength to cope with it.

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Profile picture for kylastar @kylastar

Has anyone weaned off lorazepam and if so how did you do it?

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I am currently taking 2-3 mgs a day of lorazepam and have for about 7 years for anxiety caused by my bone marrow cancer diagnosis. I wish to wean myself off of this and try using CBD tincture to combat this anxiety. Has anyone done this and if so, any hints as to the best way to do this and if it works? My MD retired, and my new medical provider wants me off the lorazepam, and onto busiprone, which I do not want. My oncologist has never mentioned to me that I should get off the lorazepam.The lorazepam has worked very well for me, and I can take as needed, but I understand that busiprone must be taken everyday and is also addicting. Any experience with either busiprone or CBD tincutre?Appreciate any help on this.

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Profile picture for mollydog @mollydog

I am currently taking 2-3 mgs a day of lorazepam and have for about 7 years for anxiety caused by my bone marrow cancer diagnosis. I wish to wean myself off of this and try using CBD tincture to combat this anxiety. Has anyone done this and if so, any hints as to the best way to do this and if it works? My MD retired, and my new medical provider wants me off the lorazepam, and onto busiprone, which I do not want. My oncologist has never mentioned to me that I should get off the lorazepam.The lorazepam has worked very well for me, and I can take as needed, but I understand that busiprone must be taken everyday and is also addicting. Any experience with either busiprone or CBD tincutre?Appreciate any help on this.

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I was on benzodiazepines and they have the same addictive tendencies so if you want to get off you have to taper S-l-o-w-l-y. 7 years is a really long time to be on this stuff. It will take a long while to get off. And once off do not go on the other one. You’re just switching one evil for another. I have been using gaba for the last 8 years and on an as needed basis only. Since gaba is just an amino acid it is not addictive. But you cannot take it with what you are taking now. The meds you’ve been taking change the synapses of the brain. They are really powerful. Please wean off very very slowly.

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Profile picture for mollydog @mollydog

I am currently taking 2-3 mgs a day of lorazepam and have for about 7 years for anxiety caused by my bone marrow cancer diagnosis. I wish to wean myself off of this and try using CBD tincture to combat this anxiety. Has anyone done this and if so, any hints as to the best way to do this and if it works? My MD retired, and my new medical provider wants me off the lorazepam, and onto busiprone, which I do not want. My oncologist has never mentioned to me that I should get off the lorazepam.The lorazepam has worked very well for me, and I can take as needed, but I understand that busiprone must be taken everyday and is also addicting. Any experience with either busiprone or CBD tincutre?Appreciate any help on this.

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@mollydog I don't have experience with a CBD tincture for anxiety but I have taken buspirone. It did not work for me. What did work was an antidepressant that also targets anxiety. My doctor prescribed a few different antidepressants until we found what worked.

I think you have mixed up what's addictive and what is not. Lorazepam is a controlled substance (benzodiazepene) that is addictive. Since you have been taking Lorazepam for 7 years as prescribed that's good however you are wise to work with your doctor to slowly go down in dosage. Your doctor likely recommended buspirone because it's non-addictive.

I can understand why your doctor would like for you to slowly stop taking Lorazpam as many doctors are worried (rightly so) that their patients are addicted to or will become addicted to this medication. Unless their patient has addiction in their family members or are addicted to other substances themselves the doctor cannot predict that in their patients.

Cleveland Clinic: What is addiction:

-- https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/6407-addiction

Do you have a behavioral health (mental health) professional you can talk with about how to proceed? Or ask your doctor for a referral to a psychiatrist?

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Profile picture for mollydog @mollydog

I am currently taking 2-3 mgs a day of lorazepam and have for about 7 years for anxiety caused by my bone marrow cancer diagnosis. I wish to wean myself off of this and try using CBD tincture to combat this anxiety. Has anyone done this and if so, any hints as to the best way to do this and if it works? My MD retired, and my new medical provider wants me off the lorazepam, and onto busiprone, which I do not want. My oncologist has never mentioned to me that I should get off the lorazepam.The lorazepam has worked very well for me, and I can take as needed, but I understand that busiprone must be taken everyday and is also addicting. Any experience with either busiprone or CBD tincutre?Appreciate any help on this.

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Busiprone did NOT work for me! I had a terrible reaction to this medication after a month and I had to get off! Not just the terrible side effects but the weaning was worse!
It exacerbated my anxiety and so much more.
I don’t believe or understand why your new Primary care Provider is taking you off something that works for you. I’ve done my share of reading & research and I’m no doctor but anxiety is not an easy remedy! All medications are addictive in my opinion. If the medication is not working any longer then by all means stop using it, wean yourself with your Dr’s help/supervision and reset. If it is in fact working then trust me in saying you’re better off staying on it and getting a second opinion. Most PCP’s don’t know very much about the brain and chemical reactions to these medications. They are quick in wanting to switch them up to see what works best but in reality they are doing you more harm than good!
Tinctures do work great however, with my severe anxiety they made me a bit more sedated and I occasionally use them but for me isn’t was the remedy.
I’m currently taking 1mg of Clonazepam which is the only thing that works for me without the side effects. Yes, it’s addictive … as are the rest! It’s a huge and personal pet peeve of mine to have your PCP or anyone to not try to have a better understanding of the starting, removing, restarting meds while months upon months of suffering the chemical imbalances these meds cause by going off then on then off again.
Do yourself a favor and get a second opinion. A Doctor that knows brain health!

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Profile picture for mollydog @mollydog

I am currently taking 2-3 mgs a day of lorazepam and have for about 7 years for anxiety caused by my bone marrow cancer diagnosis. I wish to wean myself off of this and try using CBD tincture to combat this anxiety. Has anyone done this and if so, any hints as to the best way to do this and if it works? My MD retired, and my new medical provider wants me off the lorazepam, and onto busiprone, which I do not want. My oncologist has never mentioned to me that I should get off the lorazepam.The lorazepam has worked very well for me, and I can take as needed, but I understand that busiprone must be taken everyday and is also addicting. Any experience with either busiprone or CBD tincutre?Appreciate any help on this.

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Check and see if you have a "benzo informed provider" in your state. https://www.benzoinfo.com/doctors/

But just in general, check out the Benzodiazepine Information Coalition. There is a woman who consults with people that want to get off benzodiazepines after long term use. She might be nice to talk to. Lots of great resources https://www.benzoinfo.com/ Don't follow it as gospel as it's not medical advice (she will be the first to make sure you understand that!), but if you can find a medical provider who understands these often misunderstood medications, you will be doing yourself a huge favor! I found someone who is not on the list and it has made a massive difference.

Do you not want to get off the Lorazepam? About what age are you? If you are still on the younger side, I think it's a really good idea to start lowering your dose. Don't let anyone tell you to do it overnight. 7 years is long enough that you just have to take it really slowly and be kind to your body (and mind).

Buspar worked relatively well for me but had me very tired. CBD never did too much. Have you ever tried Hydroxyzine? I would say Hydroxyzine and Buspar are similar in that they both help with anxiety, aren't SSRIs, and aren't Benzos. Maybe getting on one of those while you VERY SLOWLY come off of Lorazepam with the help of a benzo informed physician can help.

Ask any potential doctor if they have heard of the Ashton Manual. Look it up and check it out yourself. Gold standard for getting off of benzos.

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