How to handle luggage when flying?

Posted by boppi @boppi, Apr 16 3:49pm

We are going on our first extended cruise post dementia in May and I am concerned about handling carryon vs checked baggage with a spouse who watches me struggle and cannot process how to help. Any lessons learned for me to decide on handling luggage?

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@jmg60. Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! Boy, you started out with a bang! Giving great tips and advice to @boppie and other caretakers. I do hope you’ll stick with us and get some advice and encouragement from other members.

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Haha yes I have just been on my own the last three years! Looking forward to hearing other ideas, strategies, and experiences. It often feels pretty lonely. Thanks for the welcome!

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@jmg60

Haha yes I have just been on my own the last three years! Looking forward to hearing other ideas, strategies, and experiences. It often feels pretty lonely. Thanks for the welcome!

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Yes, welcome. I am in awe of how you planned for and gave yourself permission to spend the money necessary to have the way smoothed well ahead of you both as each part of the trip unfolded- kudos and double kudos!
And yes, hanging out with us will give you unfortunate insight into what is to come. I passed the no more trips milestone about two years ago. Two weeks ago, things went south in a big way at my husband’s longtime barber, and I’ve realized that it’s time to use the facility’s.
Working with what you’ve got to work with and accepting the continual decline is hard, we’re here for you.

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@jmg60

Hi I am new to this group, as of today. Friends and family have encouraged me to get into some type of group for a couple of years! But just today I read through a few topics and found so much common ground with all you other caregivers. I actually feel less lonely, but also reading some of the things that are hard and yet to come is more than a little depressing. I won't go on too much about my husband's diagnosis and that whole journey over the past 3 years, but he is currently 65 and began having symptoms of aphasia 5 years ago. I am recently 63. He is not fully aware of his disability and doesn't understand how much help he is getting to just shower, dress, and eat. He still dreams that now that he is retired (out on disability at 62 1/2, finally on medicare in September.) we will take fabulous cruises to exciting destinations. It's heartbreaking - he earned that, but we are using cruise money for more help around the house and some fill in care givers so I can have a break. Additionally, last November we DID take a major trip and it was, in my opinion, our last big deal. It did work - nothing bad happened - but it was the massive planning component and a travel consultant that set up everything ahead of time, and we travelled with another couple, long time friends familiar with him and his challenges. We went to Portugal and Spain, and did land tours and a cruise from Lisbon to Barcelona. He did pretty well on the flight over, and for the first 4-5 days-but really kind of started to unravel. The trip was 15 days and that is TOO LONG. The food is too rich, the alcohol too plentiful. He has FTD/Primary Progressive Aphasia and has poor self control but he's still a smart guy and would just point to a drink and say "That!" and poof, he has it. The guy loves a good meal and fine wine, and even though he ordered "BLUE", the staff realized quickly he meant red wine, lol. I didn't want to be the drink police, but I would try to distract him and be busy until dinner, and other strategies. We used a concierge travel agent who set up private tours with English speaking guides. I could not be trying to get Ubers and speak in very poor Spanish to drivers. The hotels were informed ahead of time that we had special needs, and all were extremely sensitive. We did business class and that was really helpful, the flight attendant literally looked after him while I was dozing or in the bathroom. This cost a small fortune and was the trip of a lifetime, and he remembers it when I pull the pics up on my laptop. We each had 1 large bag and one carry on. Have tip money for porters and helpers of any kind. I liked the wheel chair idea for the airport, that would have been great! At the airport in Barcelona for our return flight, my husband answered the question "Have you had control of your luggage the entire time?" with "NO." And then we were in the naughty line and got the 3rd level screening, but once they realized his condition I was able to accompany him and we made our flight home. Don't do any connections, fly direct, check everything you can, get a travel agent that understands what people with cognitive decline need, pre select food if possible, stick to a routine as much as you can. It took several months for him to get back to his pre-vacation baseline (and to pay off the credit card), and now I just plan 3 day get-away's that are drive from home. If you do a big trip, the planning is the key. Oh, in a hotel or a cruise ship, you can pay for laundry service so you don't have to bring so much, I think that is worth it. And let everyone know where ever you are that your LO has special needs, but I would spring for the concierge travel planner that sets it all up and is a one text fixer if you need help. OH! Buy the insurance, both cancellation and medical. You never know. I have told our friends that despite the fact that it was a great trip in many ways, and I am glad we did it, I won't be planning another. But you should do it if you think you both can, which is such a personal decision. My husband still wants to take cruises and when he sees an ad on tv for a cruise line, looks at me and says, "When?" and it hurts my heart because I just can't do it for him. I have wondered about hiring a caregiver and getting them a cabin, but that seems like a really expensive idea when I think he might enjoy a 3 day road trip to Pismo Beach just as much. I hope you travel and it goes well, if you can I think you should! Get lots of help and just plan, plan,plan. Safe travels and best wishes for a great trip!

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Whew! The cruise sounds like a LOT of work. I lost my husband to Parkinson's a few years ago.
I live in the hill's of West Templeton. wine country. Very close to Pismo Beach. This is the most beautiful time of the year with everything so green. Make a trip this direction and it will be every bit as good as a cruise. You are 20 miles from the ocean in Cambria. There are guided tours that will pick you up at your hotel or Airbnb. There is a service called Senior Go that will drive you around in Paso Robles for $5 each way.

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How lovely. You sound well settled after your husband’s passing and we have loved our many trips to various wine and beach areas of California in years past. We have never been to the Great Lakes and especially want to see Mackinac Island which this cruise will include.
My husband particularly enjoys the small ship cruises we have taken to areas around the world as it allows us to see many areas without packing and unpacking more than once and having all transportation done for us. My only concern was our flight which requires one connection, something we have easily done with no difficulty in the past. I am hoping that Viking’s new expedition ship which provides so much extra onboard will make this an easy and enjoyable experience.

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@centre

Yes, welcome. I am in awe of how you planned for and gave yourself permission to spend the money necessary to have the way smoothed well ahead of you both as each part of the trip unfolded- kudos and double kudos!
And yes, hanging out with us will give you unfortunate insight into what is to come. I passed the no more trips milestone about two years ago. Two weeks ago, things went south in a big way at my husband’s longtime barber, and I’ve realized that it’s time to use the facility’s.
Working with what you’ve got to work with and accepting the continual decline is hard, we’re here for you.

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Hi- thanks and m at I ask how long your husband has been in a facility? I assume it’s memory care- and his age? My husband is young and when I visit them to check them out it’s even more depressing…he won’t fit in.

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@jmg60

Hi- thanks and m at I ask how long your husband has been in a facility? I assume it’s memory care- and his age? My husband is young and when I visit them to check them out it’s even more depressing…he won’t fit in.

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My husband went into assistive living at 77, he has a diagnosis of vascular dementia, his first neuropsych testing was 10 years ago, when he mentioned to his PCP that he was noticing memory problems. The test results led to the diagnosis of MCI, so I knew what was coming, just took awhile to get there. My job as a Home Care OT took me in and out of all local ALs and nursing homes.

I would recommend not holding yourself to just looking at “Memory Care”units unless he is a wanderer and needs a locked unit (not a lot of dementia people have this motivation and initiative). On a “general” floor, there will be people of varying ages, who for whatever reason, need the structure and available care in AL. Some have diabetes and need close monitoring (4 sticks daily) and no one at home to do the sticks and draw up the insulin. Some have had strokes, cognitively fine, but again, without a caregiver at home. Some have adult children who live a distance and couldn’t keep up with all the duties of keeping a home or apartment going. My husband was taken in by a group of four guys- three have dementia and the leader has had a stroke. He gets everybody laughing, organizes calling on his cellphone weekly for DoorDash to bring take-out, and schedules the retired guys from his band to come in monthly and play for everyone. You’ll be surprised how the opportunities for socialization (especially with “the guys”) will brighten your hubby’s spirits.
When making visits to see if a place might suit, of course, look for cleanliness, repairs done, no unpleasant odors, residents look well-cared for , etc. Then, I believe the best advice is to not look for chandeliers, but to look for how the staff appears- do you see kindness in their interactions with the residents, is there laughing, maybe a little teasing, are there smiles, do they make eye contact with you? My area has several “luxurious” ALs, the one I chose has “family home” vibe and not a single chandelier 🤣
Funny story- there is a bus stop/shelter with a bench near my husband’s AL. The “guy group” thinks it’s hilarious to take a walk there (the leader keeps the dementia guys together and is pushed in his wheelchair by one). They park themselves on the bench at the bus shelter and wait for the next bus. The drivers stop, look at this group in horror, they laugh uproariously and say they’re just resting from a walk. Laughter and teasing ensue, the drivers are getting to know them and they always stop.

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@centre

My husband went into assistive living at 77, he has a diagnosis of vascular dementia, his first neuropsych testing was 10 years ago, when he mentioned to his PCP that he was noticing memory problems. The test results led to the diagnosis of MCI, so I knew what was coming, just took awhile to get there. My job as a Home Care OT took me in and out of all local ALs and nursing homes.

I would recommend not holding yourself to just looking at “Memory Care”units unless he is a wanderer and needs a locked unit (not a lot of dementia people have this motivation and initiative). On a “general” floor, there will be people of varying ages, who for whatever reason, need the structure and available care in AL. Some have diabetes and need close monitoring (4 sticks daily) and no one at home to do the sticks and draw up the insulin. Some have had strokes, cognitively fine, but again, without a caregiver at home. Some have adult children who live a distance and couldn’t keep up with all the duties of keeping a home or apartment going. My husband was taken in by a group of four guys- three have dementia and the leader has had a stroke. He gets everybody laughing, organizes calling on his cellphone weekly for DoorDash to bring take-out, and schedules the retired guys from his band to come in monthly and play for everyone. You’ll be surprised how the opportunities for socialization (especially with “the guys”) will brighten your hubby’s spirits.
When making visits to see if a place might suit, of course, look for cleanliness, repairs done, no unpleasant odors, residents look well-cared for , etc. Then, I believe the best advice is to not look for chandeliers, but to look for how the staff appears- do you see kindness in their interactions with the residents, is there laughing, maybe a little teasing, are there smiles, do they make eye contact with you? My area has several “luxurious” ALs, the one I chose has “family home” vibe and not a single chandelier 🤣
Funny story- there is a bus stop/shelter with a bench near my husband’s AL. The “guy group” thinks it’s hilarious to take a walk there (the leader keeps the dementia guys together and is pushed in his wheelchair by one). They park themselves on the bench at the bus shelter and wait for the next bus. The drivers stop, look at this group in horror, they laugh uproariously and say they’re just resting from a walk. Laughter and teasing ensue, the drivers are getting to know them and they always stop.

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I loved this story and you have enlightened me on the thought of AL vs just thinking Memory Care.
My husband is still in the MCI category but I am proactively thinking about our future. I recently put deposits down on two different CCRC facilities. They are both very nice and have all the levels of care including rehab as needed. They also both have at least 3-4 year waiting lists. My hope is that we will be able to move into and enjoy an independent living apartment together before thinking we need another level for him and God willing my brain stays intact. I just turned 72 and my husband is 77.
Thank you for this story.

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I am so glad the luggage and travel question is here. I have been reading all the posts and glad to see that travel is still a possibility for many. It is becoming more difficult, but we are hoping to get a few more good trips in.
My husband and I stopped checking luggage long ago after a trip to London left him without luggage for days.
We find it simpler to pack two airline approved carry ons per person. In 2019 we did a three week Eastern European group tour and were the only ones with only carry on luggage. But we did it and had no issues.
Last year we did a 14 day Viking Cruise to Greece/Turkey/ Croatia and Italy-no checked luggage.
They have laundry rooms down the hall from all the cabins.
This year we are doing a 30 day Viking Cruise (probably our last hurrah) and do not plan to check luggage.
It is a challenge and I have to weigh the bags to make sure they will accommodate but in the long run it feels so much simpler to us. We also have signed up to be trusted travelers so we get through lines quicker.
All that being said, I am hearing that many like to check luggage and be done with any worries of overhead compartments etc. I get that too. Also my husband still can help and walk with the luggage throughout the airport. I can see where checking the luggage and not having to worry about it until the flight is over is also nice.
So, for now, while we can, we are sticking with our no check policy. I'm not sure how much more we can do these international trips. We may be resorting to long car drives, which I also love. I do all the driving now.

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