No more Driving

Posted by johnna16 @johnna16, Jun 3, 2023

My husband’s neurologist recommended to him not to drive. I also am trying to schedule him for drivers evaluation. He doesn’t want to do this but once I have appointment I’ll get him to go. I’m hoping he decides to stop driving before the evaluation. I let him know he’s a danger to himself and others etc etc. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can convince him. Fortunately he only drives to the gym 5 minutes away but anything can happen.
Please do not lecture me about he shouldn’t be driving as I already know this. I am asking for any ideas of what can I tell him and yes I can take away the keys but I would like not to have to do it that way.
Also I haven’t been in car with him for months. He was driving fine about 3 months ago. However it’s best for him to stop. He will be 80 this August. His diagnosis is MCI but I think he is in a dementia stage. Thank you!

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@coping123

My husband with LBD still provides me with turn-by-turn driving instructions - punctuated with “stop”, “go”, “yield”, etc. I can’t even describe for angry & frustrated that made me at first! Now I view it as a positive - he knows where we are & where we are going. And he still recognizes traffic signs. So it’s a good gauge of his lucidity. The challenge is to never accept what he says without first checking for myself - especially at an intersection! In some small way, tolerating his driving guidance validates & makes him feel useful.

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Your comment is well received. Actually, we've always been each other's back seat driver.

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@harleyshaw

We've moved beyond the neurologist. She's on memantine and donepezil, now routinely prescribed by our primary provider under direction from the final neurologist we saw. She sees the PP once every 6 months. Frankly, I felt that our primary understands her problems better than the neurologists. They simply put her into a "some kind of undiagnosed cognitive impairment category" and continued the standard pills. We've been given no encouragement regarding any improvement and view the current situation as a stage that will last an undetermined period.

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Hi @harleyshaw, I found, too, that after a while the neurologist lost interest, and now the geritrician has taken over. With the diagnosis of Alzheimer's, I was told my husband has 10 - 12 years. Other than the AD, he's in good health, but the reality of this disease is that damage to the brain eventually causes the other organs to fail.
The geritrician suggested I get some help in the house, more for me, than my husband, but at this time I'm not overtaxed with my care duties for him. She also advised me not to hire privately, but to get someone from an agency, insured and bonded, to avoid any claims of personal injury. She also advised me to put credit freezes in place so no one can open bank accounts, get credit cards, take out loans in our name, etc. It does alleviate some worry, and the're easy enough to unfreeze them should credit be needed at some point.
The only thing I thought, that might be odd, but could possibly be helpful is could you speak to the MVD, a manager, and ask them to send a letter to your wife saying she no longer is qualified to get a driver's license? If that's not feasible, maybe her physician would do it to take some of the blame off you.
Take care.

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@coping123

My husband with LBD still provides me with turn-by-turn driving instructions - punctuated with “stop”, “go”, “yield”, etc. I can’t even describe for angry & frustrated that made me at first! Now I view it as a positive - he knows where we are & where we are going. And he still recognizes traffic signs. So it’s a good gauge of his lucidity. The challenge is to never accept what he says without first checking for myself - especially at an intersection! In some small way, tolerating his driving guidance validates & makes him feel useful.

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My husband also "helps me drive" and I always thank him for his help;-)

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@tsc

Hi @harleyshaw, I found, too, that after a while the neurologist lost interest, and now the geritrician has taken over. With the diagnosis of Alzheimer's, I was told my husband has 10 - 12 years. Other than the AD, he's in good health, but the reality of this disease is that damage to the brain eventually causes the other organs to fail.
The geritrician suggested I get some help in the house, more for me, than my husband, but at this time I'm not overtaxed with my care duties for him. She also advised me not to hire privately, but to get someone from an agency, insured and bonded, to avoid any claims of personal injury. She also advised me to put credit freezes in place so no one can open bank accounts, get credit cards, take out loans in our name, etc. It does alleviate some worry, and the're easy enough to unfreeze them should credit be needed at some point.
The only thing I thought, that might be odd, but could possibly be helpful is could you speak to the MVD, a manager, and ask them to send a letter to your wife saying she no longer is qualified to get a driver's license? If that's not feasible, maybe her physician would do it to take some of the blame off you.
Take care.

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Thanks for the comments. I'll look into the credit freeze.

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With my husband the problem is his memory. His doctor told him he should quit driving but he doesn’t remember that! Plus he’s a mechanic so he putters on the cars. And LOVES cars. I guess scheduling him for a driving test would be the best.

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@maryvc

Update on my husband. This week he went to pick up pizza 10 minutes away, something he does every other week. He didn’t come home after 45 minutes. I called him- no answer. I called the pizza place and heard “There was something in the parking lot. The police are there and everyone is ok!” I was panicked - my husband S did not call me. I got in the car to see what was going on. I also thought. “Let’s see how he handles it.,
When I got there, he already was on his way home. Then I get the call over an hour after he had left/ “ I barely touched the guys car. And thought we could change numbers etc. The guy wanted to see S drivers lic and registration and insurance info. Apparently S was fumbling and couldn’t find the stuff right away. The guy he dinged said” you are not going anywhere, I have a gun. “ He then called the police. Police came and wrote a brief crash report saying very minor ding. Call your insurance company etc. “
The end result the guy hit an estimate 264.00 I paid it yesterday.
My husband is an excellent careful driver. The problem was processing and judgement around an accident.
I called the occupational Therapist who is doing his driving test Mar 13. She knows.
My husband is working on getting used to the idea of not driving but I’ll let the OT and doctor make the final verdict and declaration.
S was very sad when after the ding I told him this was a guardian angel’s way of warning that turned out minor. But who could even imagine a guy threatening about a gun. Turns out he was a nice guy who didn’t understand the confusion of an old guy.
Anyway. My husband said” you might as well find a new husband. “ I said, no I love you and I get a new husband every day. ☺️

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So he had the driving test this Wednesday and as expected he did not pass. He was sad and angry and felt I was conspiring against him by telling the OT about his recent mini accident. I also gave her the results of his Speech Therapist's evaluation which showed a decrease in executive functioning and spatial recognition-could not do mazes. She gave him a fair shot at it though. They went out driving for 45 minutes and she saw many signs that it is time to hang up the keys. S is doing okay but reflects back with and "if only" . But I think he gets it. We will try Uber and I am open to lots of driving as are friends who have offered to help. Just another downer for him. But I think he gets it. At least he got to drive until he was almost 77. I just have to hug him more.

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@maryvc

So he had the driving test this Wednesday and as expected he did not pass. He was sad and angry and felt I was conspiring against him by telling the OT about his recent mini accident. I also gave her the results of his Speech Therapist's evaluation which showed a decrease in executive functioning and spatial recognition-could not do mazes. She gave him a fair shot at it though. They went out driving for 45 minutes and she saw many signs that it is time to hang up the keys. S is doing okay but reflects back with and "if only" . But I think he gets it. We will try Uber and I am open to lots of driving as are friends who have offered to help. Just another downer for him. But I think he gets it. At least he got to drive until he was almost 77. I just have to hug him more.

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The hard part is being blamed for a decision that ultimately comes from the Motor Vehicles people that test for licenses. Even though they would not renew my wife's license, I'm the one that has to tell her every day that she can't drive. You inevitably become the "cop" on the ground that is enforcing the law, it seems. No amount of trying to explain the situation changes that.

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When faced with not driving, it helped to tell my mother that her driver was her chauffeur. For my husband with Alzheimer's we gave his car to a grandchild and he felt very good about that. In both cases the urge to drive faded very quickly. Maybe there is a story that you can create that will help.

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@harleyshaw

The hard part is being blamed for a decision that ultimately comes from the Motor Vehicles people that test for licenses. Even though they would not renew my wife's license, I'm the one that has to tell her every day that she can't drive. You inevitably become the "cop" on the ground that is enforcing the law, it seems. No amount of trying to explain the situation changes that.

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That has got to be so difficult! With the memory issue, you have to be creative in ways to keep your wife from driving on a daily basis, to keep her and others safe…My utmost sympathies. You know you are doing the right thing, but it must be so hard and draining, being the “bad guy”. I dread the day that happens here. My husband has always loved driving. Stay strong!

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Thank you. S is actually doing ok, but brings it up at least once daily.

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