Want to hear from others who have Stage 4 Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD)

Posted by anet @anet, Oct 21, 2019

My husband who is 75 is in stage 4 kidney disease according to his gfr. His last Gfr was 27. That sounds terrible to me, but his nephrologist says he is stable. He is not diabetic. His creatinine is 3.2, albumin 4.1. Phosphorus, sodium, calcium, potassium are all normal. His blood pressure is controlled by medication. He exercises by walking one and a half miles every day. He has two heart stents and takes cholesterol medicine. He has shortness of breath on occasion, but still does all of his normal activities like light yard work, fishing, dining out, going to church activities. I do think he sits too much, but try not to nag. He is not good about eating healthy, but is getting better. Maybe I am just worrying too much. Would like to hear from others in this stage of kidney disease.

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@schuster

I am 88 and in your husband's boat. I do PT three times a week and get off my duff to battle getting bedsores on my rear end. I have been looking hard for a virtual support group for kidney discussions. I was in a group with one of the 'kidney foundations' but it has about 100 members and we spend most of the time introducing ourselves every week. Like you, I have a lot of anxiety about kidney disease. Dialysis is a pain in the you know what and there does not seem to be a better option/. I really hate waiting around to die with a tube in my belly and waiting around for the next pandemic. I am a fan of UCLA Health for a ton of years but they 'farm out' dialysis so it seems there is little research focused on. To be honest, I have an 'ear full' of information pumped into me but have no peers to talk with.

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Did you find- good support group? Trying to get more information to help a family member at stage 4 I care for improve their diet or find other ways to improve kidney function.

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@ococean09

Did you find- good support group? Trying to get more information to help a family member at stage 4 I care for improve their diet or find other ways to improve kidney function.

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@ococean09 Are you looking for an online support group for your family member? Try rsnhope.org, which has twice monthly Zoom meetings. There are people from all over the country, and there are different types of meetings that happen virtually that have to do with diet, exercise, creative endeavors, book club, etc. The organization was founded in 1993 by Lori Hartwell, who is a four-time kidney recipient.

Beyond that, you can find helpful information from the National Kidney Foundation https://www.kidney.org/nutrition;
DaVita Kidney Care: https://www.davita.com/diet-nutrition; and Fresenius Kidney Care: https://www.freseniuskidneycare.com/recipes-and-nutrition

Do you have any other questions for me?
Ginger

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@ococean09

Can you share more about your diet? Thank you!

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Google Davita.. it has so much valuable information and recipes.

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Hello,
Glad I found this thread. I've been at stage 4 since March 2023. I was misdiagnosed by my local nephrologist and was able to get an appt. at Mayo in Rochester. Then registered with a new nephrologist locally. My eGFR is stable and moves from stage 3 (33) to stage 4 (25). The specialist from Mayo and my new nephrologist say this is normal. Fluctuating eGFR, as long as it's stable within a reasonable number is fine. Both Drs say many people live long, productive lives at this eGFR. I have no symptoms. My disease makes me urinate a lot and my urine is very clear. I have low protein, often none, every test is different. My disease is nephrogenic diabetes insipidus. I do not completely understand it but it's from being on lithium for 40+ years.

Every kidney disease is unique to the individual. I read stories that vary so much from person to person. I guess the best thing to do is have a positive attitude. I lived in worry and concern for 7 years with the wrong diagnosis. When Mayo told me that dx was wrong, I was elated, but I still have kidney disease. It's just a different one that does not destroy the kidneys as ADPKD does (that was the wrong dx).

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@pbstpa

Hi @anet. I hope your husband continues to be doing ok. Coming in a little late on this thread but wanted to tell you I have been Stage 4 for over 24 years. I just turned 60. I am not on dialysis but my function continues to slowly deteriorate. I recently got accepted for the transplant list hoping for a new kidney before I progress to Stage 5. As of now, I'm able to work and pretty much live my life as I please except for all the doctor, transplant center and lab appointments. Fatigue is my enemy so I try not to overdo it. So, of course, you're worried, but keeping a positive attitude, will go a long way for both of you.

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wow you give me hope, stage 4 for 24 years, amazing. i am 80 no diabetes..had chemo maybe a cause, but pharmacy said cholesterol meds caused my kidney disease, try to follow diet, have onion soup daily, supposed to be great for kidneys, scary thing to me some days, not as tired the days i have pool exercises

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Hello,
I’m 77 3/4 years with type2 diabetes and stage 4 CKD. I’m new to this support group. Since my sodium, potassium and phosphorus levels are normal, is it okay for me to use a little sprinkle of light salt by Morton’s only when cooking dinner meals? FYI: I have been doing that for dinner meals prep.

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@westutx

Hello,
I’m 77 3/4 years with type2 diabetes and stage 4 CKD. I’m new to this support group. Since my sodium, potassium and phosphorus levels are normal, is it okay for me to use a little sprinkle of light salt by Morton’s only when cooking dinner meals? FYI: I have been doing that for dinner meals prep.

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@westutx A dietitian can probably best answer your question by looking at your complete diet program history along with your labs. One thing to note is that our bodies need those 3 ingredients in our lives, but not one of them in excess. Assuming a "little" does not be excess, it probably may be OK, but your dietitian knows best.

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@westutx

Hello,
I’m 77 3/4 years with type2 diabetes and stage 4 CKD. I’m new to this support group. Since my sodium, potassium and phosphorus levels are normal, is it okay for me to use a little sprinkle of light salt by Morton’s only when cooking dinner meals? FYI: I have been doing that for dinner meals prep.

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If you have been doing it, and your levels are remaining good, then maintaining those levels is the goal .
It's all a balance!

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@westutx

Hello,
I’m 77 3/4 years with type2 diabetes and stage 4 CKD. I’m new to this support group. Since my sodium, potassium and phosphorus levels are normal, is it okay for me to use a little sprinkle of light salt by Morton’s only when cooking dinner meals? FYI: I have been doing that for dinner meals prep.

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@westutx Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! All of us who deal with chronic kidney issues sometimes struggle with exactly what we can/should do with our diets. Some may say, "everything in moderation". For me, having something in moderation can lead to overindulging; my nemesis is pepperjack cheese, which I dearly love!

How about trying another take on adding salt to your dinners, by using herbs and spices in place of salt? I use a salt-free seasoning blend that has garlic, pepper, lemon, paprika and several other tasty components. I don't miss the salt at all. In fact, for me, celery now tastes salty!
Ginger

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@gingerw

@westutx Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! All of us who deal with chronic kidney issues sometimes struggle with exactly what we can/should do with our diets. Some may say, "everything in moderation". For me, having something in moderation can lead to overindulging; my nemesis is pepperjack cheese, which I dearly love!

How about trying another take on adding salt to your dinners, by using herbs and spices in place of salt? I use a salt-free seasoning blend that has garlic, pepper, lemon, paprika and several other tasty components. I don't miss the salt at all. In fact, for me, celery now tastes salty!
Ginger

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I would love to hear the complete recipe or the name of your salt replacement seasoning.

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