White Matter Disease

Posted by laylasmom @laylasmom, Feb 26, 2023

I am a 65 year old woman. I passed out during covid and ended up on the floor in my bathroom unable to move my legs. I laid there for almost 15 hours and finally I was able to slowly crawl to reach my phone. I went to the hospital and they did many tests to try and determine why I fainted and why I was paralyzed. On the MRI they noticed I had white matter in my brain. My neurologist did many labs and ordered a spinal tap. After 3 attempts, they could not get out enough fluid making the spinal tap unsuccessful. The impression on the MRI said "nonspecific T2 FLAIR hyper intense white matter disease". Differential considerations to include chronic ischemic microvascular disease vs vasculopathic/inflammatory process or demyelination. I did some research and I think I would benefit to see a neuroradiologist. My neurologist is not able to determine the cause of these lesions so I think my next step is to go to Mayo in Rochester, MN (I live in Minnesota) and try and find a neuroradiologist there. Has anyone been diagnosed with white matter disease and what was your next step? Some of what I read on line was pretty darn scary.

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Ingegerd, thank you for sharing. I’m sorry you had to endure so many tests. But glad you are okay now. Did you go to the Mayo? Yes, Barrows is impressive but they function a bit differently than most places. You can get a second opinion for a flat fee of $100. I think you send them all your tests. Maybe you don’t actually have an on-site visit for that. You can get treatment there if it is one of the diseases they treat. All of this is creating lots of anxiety and I need to get on with it & just go with the flow! But if there is no cure for many of these diseases, I can’t help but to question my pursuit for answers. Gotta get some sleep now! Take care and rest well😴

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I used to manage a nursing home for people with Huntington's Disease, which is a genetic disorder that affects about 50% of offspring. We also had a very well attended outpatient/allied health day clinic. At this time, no one had discovered the actual gene, so there was no living diagnosis, nor was there treatment. In trying to get everyone's DNA, so many families would say "But there's no cure, so why go through all this?" My answer was always that "One day there will be, and your family could be the one that springs open the final clue."
Well, it happened. The gene was found, and the cure is being developed.
SO, my comment (long winded as it may be) is NEVER to stop looking for answers. There may not be one now, but you could be the key that opens the final door. Put the anxiety aside and look at it as a search for mankind, for all the people like us that have the same thing. And stay positive.

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What is White Matter Disease on my MRI?

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What is White Matter Disease on my MRI?

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Hello @willow11. I moved your discussion and combined it with an existing discussion titled "White Matter Disease," - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/white-matter-disease-1/.

I did this so you could meet other members with white matter disease, like @SusanEllen66, @nogrits, and @keithl56.

@willow11, Have you had a chance to discuss your MRI results with your provider since seeing this finding?

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Hello @willow11. I moved your discussion and combined it with an existing discussion titled "White Matter Disease," - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/white-matter-disease-1/.

I did this so you could meet other members with white matter disease, like @SusanEllen66, @nogrits, and @keithl56.

@willow11, Have you had a chance to discuss your MRI results with your provider since seeing this finding?

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No, it is a result of a Workers Compensation Case and the insurance company limits my access to the Doctors. I can’t make make appts with my questions. They are just rushing me to WC court. All I know I found on line about football players who were denied compensations which heightens my fears, I will be cast aside to deal with this on my one with only the internet for information.

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No, it is a result of a Workers Compensation Case and the insurance company limits my access to the Doctors. I can’t make make appts with my questions. They are just rushing me to WC court. All I know I found on line about football players who were denied compensations which heightens my fears, I will be cast aside to deal with this on my one with only the internet for information.

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Sorry to hear of your situation. I have white matter disease as well. It is usually caused by plaque build-up in the very small arteries in your brain. This causes a lack of blood flow to a small area of the brain and results in death of the brain cells that have no blood supply. It sounds scarier than it is but since most of the time it pretty much asymptomatic you don't even realize that it is happening. Over time you may develop symptoms as more areas are affected, and the symptoms can vary based on what area of your brain is involved. Your MRI report may state where the white matter disease is and you can do some research. Was the MRI recommended because of some specific symptoms you are experiencing?

This probably has no bearing on your WC claim since white matter disease doesn't have any causes that would be employment related. If you are symptomatic there may be a possible disabilty claim unrelated to the WC case.

Good luck! Feel free to reach out with any questions and I'll try my best to help you out.

Keith

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What is White Matter Disease on my MRI?

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Just had the same result. I am 70 years old and asked for the MRI as I am losing words and short term memory is an issue. My Doctor says it is age related and "don't worry about it"? Not an acceptable answer as the onset was quite sudden.

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Sorry to hear of your situation. I have white matter disease as well. It is usually caused by plaque build-up in the very small arteries in your brain. This causes a lack of blood flow to a small area of the brain and results in death of the brain cells that have no blood supply. It sounds scarier than it is but since most of the time it pretty much asymptomatic you don't even realize that it is happening. Over time you may develop symptoms as more areas are affected, and the symptoms can vary based on what area of your brain is involved. Your MRI report may state where the white matter disease is and you can do some research. Was the MRI recommended because of some specific symptoms you are experiencing?

This probably has no bearing on your WC claim since white matter disease doesn't have any causes that would be employment related. If you are symptomatic there may be a possible disabilty claim unrelated to the WC case.

Good luck! Feel free to reach out with any questions and I'll try my best to help you out.

Keith

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Apologies Keith, replied to the post before reading your response. May I have your thoughts on an obvious decline in memory and white matter disease shown on MRI?

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Apologies Keith, replied to the post before reading your response. May I have your thoughts on an obvious decline in memory and white matter disease shown on MRI?

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Hi Xede,

Most of us lose some of our cognitive ability to some extent as we age. Some degree of white matter disease is likely to show up on an MRI of any older individual. However, if a change in symptoms is sudden and substantial then I would think that it would concerning. Sometimes you can have a lacunar stroke (I've had several), and while they can be asymptomatic they can result in sudden onset of symptoms. They are the result of the same microvascular ischemia that cause white matter disease. However, an MRI would identify these separate from the areas of white matter disease.

If you had an MRI and the doctor said not to worry about it then don't worry about (easier said than done, I know). He must think that the degree of white matter disease is age appropriate.

Since there is no treatment for white matter disease you can't dwell on it. Just live a healthy lifestyle and enjoy life to the fullest. Getting older is not fun!

Feel free to reach out if you think that I can help.

Keith

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Appreciate your thoughts Keith.

Yup, not easy this aging thing!

Kind regards

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I was diagnosed with White Matter Disease when I had a MRI because of abnormal gait after prostate cancer treatment. Only thing I have read about that might help is a supplement called Piracetam which is supposed to increase blood flow to the brain.

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