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Micro Clots

Posted by leahodell @leahodell, Mar 1, 2023

Have any of the Long Covid members been involved in reviewing the concept of microclots, as an explanation for ongoing symptoms following infection with Covid 19?

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searcher1 | @searcher1 | Oct 1, 2023
In reply to @dloos "Thank you for your reply. I had wondered if the pill form was a waste of..." + (show)
@dloos

Thank you for your reply.
I had wondered if the pill form was a waste of time. I read others who said only fresh was capable of helping. I think the issue with many of us is....if it isn’t pretty simple, we are physically not able to do the work. Even getting into Covid Clinics is nearly impossible.
I finally got an appointment to see the only doctor in my area that has a protocol for LC. It has been months, and my appointment is still three weeks away.
I wonder if my husband will have to carry me in for my appointment. I look back at the last year and a half, and I’m really not sure how I made it to the dozens of worthless appointments. (Yes, I know others have been on this road much longer). My heart really goes out to people who are facing this without a supportive family or network of friends.
Sites such as this fill in the gap a bit I guess.
Hopefully the test for microclots will become more available. I’m certainly going to ask about it at the LC clinic.
Good luck to everybody.

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Sorry that it has been such a tough battle for you. If you are not on blood thinners, such as statins, you could try some natural blood thinners. I will copy some references on them:
"Some foods and spices, such as cinnamon, cayenne pepper, garlic, ginger, and pineapple may contain substances that have anticoagulant properties."
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322384#faq
"Another way to consume these herbs and spices is with tea. Turmeric tea and ginger tea can be made at home and added to your daily health routine.
When it’s appropriate and advised by a health care professional, using natural blood thinners, such as cinnamon, ginger, cayenne pepper and garlic, has antithrombosis and anticoagulant effects, boosting cardiovascular health and overall wellness."
https://draxe.com/health/natural-blood-thinners/
I add some cinnamon and ground ginger to my coffee, with some almond milk and use a whisk. It is like a coffee shop beverage. I cut up a fresh pineapple and put the core in a food processor to get the bromelain that is a natural blood thinner. That is the source they use for bromelain supplements. You can be creative with some of the ingredients on the list. The strongest would be fresh natto, but it would be worth trying some of these common ingredients. Take care and hang in there.

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dloos | @dloos | Oct 1, 2023
In reply to @searcher1 "Sorry that it has been such a tough battle for you. If you are not on..." + (show)
@searcher1

Sorry that it has been such a tough battle for you. If you are not on blood thinners, such as statins, you could try some natural blood thinners. I will copy some references on them:
"Some foods and spices, such as cinnamon, cayenne pepper, garlic, ginger, and pineapple may contain substances that have anticoagulant properties."
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322384#faq
"Another way to consume these herbs and spices is with tea. Turmeric tea and ginger tea can be made at home and added to your daily health routine.
When it’s appropriate and advised by a health care professional, using natural blood thinners, such as cinnamon, ginger, cayenne pepper and garlic, has antithrombosis and anticoagulant effects, boosting cardiovascular health and overall wellness."
https://draxe.com/health/natural-blood-thinners/
I add some cinnamon and ground ginger to my coffee, with some almond milk and use a whisk. It is like a coffee shop beverage. I cut up a fresh pineapple and put the core in a food processor to get the bromelain that is a natural blood thinner. That is the source they use for bromelain supplements. You can be creative with some of the ingredients on the list. The strongest would be fresh natto, but it would be worth trying some of these common ingredients. Take care and hang in there.

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I’m sorry if I sounded negative.
I have done the research as well. I drink the various teas you mention, and use cinnamon and ginger. Bromelain is included in my natto supplement.
As I mentioned, I imagine fresh would be better all around, but when shopping is difficult we resort to what is doable.
Thank you for your response.

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methrift | @methrift | Oct 1, 2023

I was pointed to this information recently and find it very interesting. I intend to pursue the topic with my GP and Mayo Clinic.
https://medhelpclinics.com/service/long-covid-clinic

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emoothart | @emoothart | Jan 21 1:08am
In reply to @lher "I have verified microclots and am currently going through treatment (Eliquis, Plavix, Aspirin). Happy to answer..." + (show)
@lher

I have verified microclots and am currently going through treatment (Eliquis, Plavix, Aspirin). Happy to answer any questions.

There is a pre print out of South Africa on Research Square with an n=91 titled “Treatment of Long COVID symptoms with triple anticoagulant therapy“ that may be of interest.

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Did you find this treatment helpful? I just started it (5 days in) and I felt much better for two days and then simply wretched for the next three. Wondering if this is a typical reaction.

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BeBold | @bebold | Jan 22 10:32am

If you are on a medication for clotting, DO NOT add "naturals" in (other than eating them normally) to your diet without talking to a specialist. Not just your PCP. And hopefully, anybody that's on a blood thinner is not getting it from their PCP. Or taking OTC antiinflammatory meds!

Bleeding out is real. Esp your stomach. Any red output from your bidy anywhere, get to ER or Dr. depending on the amount and how red it is. You can't control these "natural" side effects of some foods in high quality. Get bloodwork often just with food focus. They now say even a baby aspirin is too much. This is a dr thing, not a home remedy thing.

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dloos | @dloos | Jan 23 6:21pm

Any updates on this? I see all these posts are quite old now.

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tia50 | @tia50 | May 21 10:54am
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@johnschuerman

I’ve heard that red light therapy helps w micro clots. I try to do 20 min per day. Don’t know how much it has helped me. But am getting better

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Where do you apply the red light therapy?

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johnschuerman | @johnschuerman | May 21 11:21am
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@tia50

Where do you apply the red light therapy?

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I do 10 min on forehead with eyes covered and 10 min on back of head

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