Supplements Part 2: Collagen supplements and EDS/HSD

Jun 14, 2024 | MeekaC | @meekaclayton | Comments (22)

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Now that we reviewed features of EDS/HSD related to  supplements, it makes sense to ask the question: “will taking supplemental collagen help me?”  To answer this question let’s dig a bit further into what is collagen – the 2nd most common substance in the human body (after water).

Collagen is assembled in a triple helix design from the amino acids proline, glycine, lysine, and hydroxyproline. Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. Vitamin C, zinc, copper and manganese act as cofactors for the formation of collagen.  Collagen makes up at least 30% of our whole-body protein content and there are currently 28 known different types of collagen that have been identified, with further diversity within each subtype.  Collagen from supplements typically comes from animal-derived sources. These include:

  • Type I: bovine and fish bones, ligaments, tendons, hides, and skin, eggshells
  • Type II: chicken cartilage and joint
  • Type III: bovine skin, blood vessels, and internal organs
  • Type V and X: eggshells

Different manufacturing processes can affect the structure, composition, and property of collagen produced. The different manufacturing processes can result in the following types of collagen:

  • Insoluble undenatured native collagen (maintain triple helix design): Type I and Type II
  • Soluble native collagen (maintain triple helix design): Type I and type II
  • Gelatin (denatured collagen – no triple helix): Type I and Type II
  • Hydrolyzed collagen (peptides and amino acids – no triple helix): Type I and Type II
  • Vegan collagen or Vegan collagen builder: plant extracts, amino acids, vitamins, minerals.

Different collagens consumed within the diet are broken down to peptides and then amino acids for absorption. Once absorbed, our bodies genes will decipher what proteins the individual amino acids will be reformed into and where in the body they will go.  If a genetic mutation is present that alters the formation and structure of collagen, the body will continue to produce faulty collagen despite the amount of amino acids or collagen supplemented by diet. And although it seems like they may help, there is not yet enough clinical studies to support supplementation of vitamin C, zinc, copper, or manganese to enhance the collagen matrix in EDS and HSD patients.

Collagen supplementation is however being studied in individuals who experience pain or have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis.  Native collagen Type II has been shown  shown to decrease joint discomfort and increase joint mobility when 40 mg/day was consumed potentially by decreasing inflammation in non-osteoporosis individuals. Hydrolyzed collagen may also have chondroprotective effects, which means protecting your cartilage. Additional research is still needed on understanding the underlying pathophysiology of pain and research is needed in the EDS and HSD population to determine if collagen supplementation provides therapeutic symptom relief. Let us know in the comment section below if you have tried collagen supplementation, and if it has helped you.

 

Author: Lisa Mejia RD/N, LD/N, CDCES, IFNCP

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@anjah
Hi, My name is Julie, I have been suffering terribly for 19 years from Sjögren's .
I was ignored by my doctors
every time I told them about my severe muscle and joint pain. I also felt a terrible
exhaustion that I couldn't
fight. 19 years later I just found out that I have EDS,
with dozens of symptoms.
My doctors just brushed me off, probably because they didn't know what it was. They acted like I was just some hysterical female. One day, my husband brought me some multi source Collagen Powder saying that maybe it would help my pain. At this time, I had had
an auto immune attack in my ears, which took 40% of my hearing in the end. The only thing my team of physicians did was give me huge amounts of antibiotics and steroids. I ended up being unable to leave my room, for a year because of the exhaustion and terrible pain everywhere, joints and muscles. Those drugs are terrible for autoimmune disorders and I literally began to think that I wasn't going to make it. So when my husband brought me the Collagen Powder, I took it right away, twice a day. Within a week, I was up and
getting around my house. It
started helping with the pain, so quickly that I couldn't believe it. After a few weeks, I was able to leave my house and play with my young daughter.
I kept feeling less pain, until it was mostly gone or on bad days, not that bad. I actually stopped taking it bit by bit, and I felt okay. When it does start coming back, I just start taking it again and it gets better. I have told two friends who have rheumatoid arthritis about it, and they won't live without it anymore. We all had very good pain reduction using this Collagen powder. I'm perplexed as to why the there aren't any positive
comments on this site. I hope you find something that helps you feel better too. 🙂

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@julierickett

Julie,
Your report is wonderful to hear. How are you doing?
Could you please share the specific collagen brand?
I also have EDS and haven’t found a brand that doesn’t bother my stomach. Your input would be very appreciated.

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Hi Lisa,

Could you please share any new findings about collagen for EDS .
Has the use of peptides been happening yet at Mayo Clinic?

Thank you very much,
Lynne

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