Why does prostate cancer only get 2-5% of funding breast cancer gets?

Posted by VancouverIslandHiker @vancouverislandhiker, Oct 29 12:30pm

Brothers..... Lets face it , both breast cancer and prostate cancer are hideous diseases. And no, I repeat no, prostate cancer is not an old man's disease the same holds true for breast cancer. My question to the forum readers is in North America prostate cancer kills more men than breast cancer kills people in North America. Why does it only get 2-5% of the funding . I am bombarded every night on TV or radio about ovarian cancer, breast cancer, and other women's cancers and I have never seen a prostate cancer commercial. This is ridiculous. Sociologically one can conclude that prostate cancer is massively underfunded and that men in North America are generally unappreciated. This has to stop. Talk to your politicians and anybody that will listen. Force their hand for "AT LEAST PARITY ! " ENOUGH !, with this bias ! God Bless ! James on Vancouver Island .

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@retireditguy

Sorry @vancouverislandhiker, but I think you've got really inaccurate numbers (at least when I look at the USA). On average, breast cancer kills more people in the USA each year than prostate cancer (by 20%). Further, looking at the National Cancer Institue funding stats Colleen posted on her first link it appears fairly constant that prostate cancer research funding is about 50% that of breast cancer research funding. However, further inspection reveals that the total funding for ovarian and uterine cancer deaths (solely female afflictions) is about 50% of prostate cancer research even though total ovarian and uterine cancer deaths are about 75% of male deaths from prostate cancer. So I don't see a gross imbalance here (except maybe for uterine cancer which has very little funding at all compared to the number of women it kills each year). Rather I suspect the funding allocation is probably a complicated topic dependent on many factors.
Here's the USA cancer numbers: https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html

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Thanks for yoru comments here . I appreciate yoru interest ! Looking into the UK 9 which keeps some good statistics... ) Some clarity can be found by examining the mortality figures stratified by age. The death rate from prostate cancer in men older than 80 years of age is 601 per 100K, whereas the breast cancer mortality rate for women aged 80 or older is 216 per 100K. Other age strata's and ethnic strata's bare even more interesting stats .

It's not easy statistical work . But looking at the UK again one can glean a "trend line" . Let's just look at number of deaths .In the year 2000, there were 724K men and 1,485,600 women aged 80 or over. Women have historically had a higher life expectancy, so this is not surprising. However, some of this shortfall may be a legacy of War. For a man to have been >80 in 2000 he would have been born before 1920 and eligible to be in the 2nd World War. Fast-forward to 2015 and the difference between men and women older than 80 is much narrower- its a different world in 2015 ; the number of women >80 increased by +19%, compared with+66% in men. Thats right 66% higher over 15 years ! This increase in elderly population for both sexes translates to 663 extra breast cancer deaths but 3000 extra prostate cancer deaths, contributing to the increasing crude number of prostate cancer deaths. Now did Prostate cancer get 66% more funding from the already underfunded amount? I doubt that very much ! God Bless ! Stay healthy !

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@retireditguy

Sorry @vancouverislandhiker, but I think you've got really inaccurate numbers (at least when I look at the USA). On average, breast cancer kills more people in the USA each year than prostate cancer (by 20%). Further, looking at the National Cancer Institue funding stats Colleen posted on her first link it appears fairly constant that prostate cancer research funding is about 50% that of breast cancer research funding. However, further inspection reveals that the total funding for ovarian and uterine cancer deaths (solely female afflictions) is about 50% of prostate cancer research even though total ovarian and uterine cancer deaths are about 75% of male deaths from prostate cancer. So I don't see a gross imbalance here (except maybe for uterine cancer which has very little funding at all compared to the number of women it kills each year). Rather I suspect the funding allocation is probably a complicated topic dependent on many factors.
Here's the USA cancer numbers: https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html

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here is some more recent stats from our Cancer Clinics across Canada . I have not researched their raw data or how they came upon their data but these of the numbers they gave me.Here are the estimated mortality rates per 100,000 people in Canada for the cancers :
Breast Cancer: Approximately 22.4 deaths per 100,000 All people
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Colon Cancer: Approximately 43.1 deaths per 100,000 people
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Prostate Cancer: Approximately 22.7 deaths per 100,000 men

Startling to see Colon Cancer so high . Last night, I was watching the World Series and some other sports. There were three commercials about cancer. Two about breast, cancer awareness, and one about ovarian cancer awareness. Nothing on prostate cancer. Probably 80% of the viewers were men. Go figure. I don't think these aforementioned commercials are that out of place... however I don't expose myself to too much TV nor the commercials. God bless Sir ... stay healthy.
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More people die of prostate cancer now than breast cancer. This has been true since the 90s. Funding research makes a difference. Bless you and your work, James.

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If we look at survival outcomes rather than financial inputs, prostate cancer patients are doing remarkably well. Whether due to adequate research funding or just luck, PCa is one of the few cancers where stage 4 isn't automatically "terminal" any more (and I'm grateful for that).

In fact, male mortality from cancers of all kinds is decreasing much more rapidly than female mortality: in the previous decade, according to the Government of Canada, it was falling by 1.3%/year for men vs 0.8%/year for women here (I don't have a more-recent stat).

I think the main point is that those of us with more-common cancers like prostate or breast cancer benefit from more research than people with rarer cancers; the exact funding proportions are secondary.

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@gently

More people die of prostate cancer now than breast cancer. This has been true since the 90s. Funding research makes a difference. Bless you and your work, James.

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Thanks for this ! It's not 'work' so much . More of a passion, really. Giving, I think pleases me more than the recipients. Either way , helping others is a blast for me . It's needed and so rewarding. Like the kids at elementary schools in the Philippines - some have never tased Ice cream , if you could imagine. Imagine the looks on their faces when a guy says to the ice cream man "one ice cream Sir for the whole school , and dont forget about the teachers please ! " . Gosh the looks on these kids faces . It's like Christmas for them. Priceless ! I talk to the kids , tell them the importance of English , listening to parents, and studying/school . It seems they focus on each word ! I must look strange to them 🙂 They ask me how I became so "rich". I tell them being rich means you have lots of friends, your health is good , and you smile a lot - just like you guys at school here ! They smile , and show me their text books !( some are the same when I studied there ! ) ....all in a life time . God Bless

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@vancouverislandhiker

100% in agreement Miss Young - all cancer patients deserve respect, support and quality care. What I advocate for is more money into research given mortality and other drivers. When I ask large corporate donors on why they gave money to this group or that group, it is interesting to hear the rationale. From a donor standpoint, there is definitely a lack of understanding on where to put this money and where it could benefit the most, given the limited amounts of donations . Last winter I was able to do some significant fundraisers for prostate cancer, breast, cancer, colon cancer, and other awareness campaigns in the Philippines. The people in the smaller villages are basically left without medical care or any form of awareness. With prostate cancer, you cannot wait until you get neurological symptoms before you start treating it. Your best open window of opportunity is before you get the symptoms. Dr's here are coached not to give a PSA test unless there is 'direct and substantial urological issues ' with the patient . This, of course , is cause for concern !, as your best treatment window, I am told from the Urologists, presents itself while there is no urological issues. In the Republic of the Philippines (RP) I raise enough money to get a specific type of machine for breast cancer imaging and also I raised enough money to get some advertising awareness and free PSA checks for men in the provinces- forgotten people for the most part. From my memory, I got the PSA test down to about $12.84 Canadian. Small price to pay for early detection. We will be able to test thousands and thousands of men in this campaign I hope. The real problem is if their PSA is over 4.0 and the urologist wants to proceed with some sort of corrective care, Phil health will only pay for approximately 80% of the surgery. Also, a concern of mine is money and corruption in the Philippines, but that is a long and another story for a later date. I have much more work to do in the Philippines as well as some other deserving countries that I'm working on as well. I have made it my life effort to make people aware of various types of cancers and to raise money for early detection and cancer care. It's truly amazing, as a sidenote, the culture in the Philippines is to stay away from hospitals and doctors as much as possible so, we had to get some friendly faces on posters and very encouraging statements to try and get these men and women into the clinics for exams. Next time I'm over in the Philippines, I want to get some meetings with Phil Health , which is the government insurer, to see if we can do something similar to their program with tuberculosis. Their tuberculosis program is to be commended. It is free, and testing is free at any rural clinic or hospital.They have an excellent screening program for tuberculosis and care and I would like to ask them if they could do that for prostate cancer, breast, cancer, colon cancer and heart, and stroke issues( which is very common amongst the people in the archipelago, mainly due to the rice diet, I think ! Tasty rice for sure , but very meal leads to diabetes as well as other factors.). It's quite amazing that the climate is one of the best to grow vegetables, fruits, as well as other things .... but Rice is the staple of Course , and vegetables and fruits are not eaten as much as it should be. Probably a lack of that education is also needed.). Actually I grew up there as a 'foreigner' kid, hence I know their diet well. God bless you all. James .

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Its hard to say that any of the cancers get the proper funding. I had prostate cancer in 2020. 11 months later my wife was diagnosed with glioblastoma. I know they have brain cancer awareness month and lots of trials and different funding available. But if you get GBM its an automatic 6-12months sentence. The only one any worse is pancreatic. Both effect men and women. Both young and old. I would like to say PC deserves more attention but I have found all cancer needs an answer. You throw in dementia related diseases and its hard to pick which is worse. Be nice to see advancements in a cure for anything instead of funding for treatments.

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@gently

More people die of prostate cancer now than breast cancer. This has been true since the 90s. Funding research makes a difference. Bless you and your work, James.

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@gently -- respectfully, you're just flat wrong that prostate cancer kills more people than breast cancer. I respectfully suggest you're getting bad information.
Here's some links you might be interested in:
https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/breast-cancer
https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/prostate-cancer-statistics/
But I did see that in the UK prostate cancer has edged out (just barely) total deaths over breast cancer in 2018 in the UK, but certainly not "since the 90's".

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@retireditguy

@gently -- respectfully, you're just flat wrong that prostate cancer kills more people than breast cancer. I respectfully suggest you're getting bad information.
Here's some links you might be interested in:
https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/breast-cancer
https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/prostate-cancer-statistics/
But I did see that in the UK prostate cancer has edged out (just barely) total deaths over breast cancer in 2018 in the UK, but certainly not "since the 90's".

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@retired guy, I yield. https://blogs.bmj.com/bmjebmspotlight/2018/03/09/prostate-cancer-now-kills-more-people-than-breast-cancer-cause-for-alarm/#:~:text=The%20death%20rate%20from%20prostate,older%20is%20216%20per%20100K. and thank you for the correction.
I have been impressed with the quality of care available for prostate cancer patients compared to ovarian and breast cancer patients. Though my view is limited.

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@gently

@retired guy, I yield. https://blogs.bmj.com/bmjebmspotlight/2018/03/09/prostate-cancer-now-kills-more-people-than-breast-cancer-cause-for-alarm/#:~:text=The%20death%20rate%20from%20prostate,older%20is%20216%20per%20100K. and thank you for the correction.
I have been impressed with the quality of care available for prostate cancer patients compared to ovarian and breast cancer patients. Though my view is limited.

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@gently -- don't feel bad; we've all gotten some info on the web that appeared solid and turned out to be wrong. I know I certainly have. It's really hard sometimes to sort through it all and figure it all out. I really do appreciate your pleasant response! Thank you! Best wishes.

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