Chronic Pain members - Welcome, please introduce yourself

Posted by Kelsey Mohring @kelseydm, Apr 27, 2016

Welcome to the new Chronic Pain group.

I’m Kelsey and I’m the moderator of the group. I look forwarding to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Why not take a minute and introduce yourself.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Chronic Pain Support Group.

<p>My Introduction</p><p>Hello, I am new to the group so need to introduce myself. I am a 61 yo female who has suffered from chronic pain for the last 3 years. I woke up one morning and was unable to bear weight on my right leg. I also had back pain at the time. I have had 3 hip replacements (two on my right and one on my left). My first thought was this is my hip. Ortho doctors have taken x rays and my hip looks fine. I was given an injection in my knee (since I was also having knee pain) Then went to a back doctor. I've had MULTIPLE steroid injections in my spine. From my L4 down to SI. The thought was that this was all sciatica pain. I've had PRP injections in my back and right hip. I've had 2 MRI's that show I've got disc protrusion on my LEFT side. So that doesn't seem to be the problem with my right side. I've done PT and acupuncture and NUCCA (which helps my back for sure!). I took myself to a neurosurgeon because I read about Brachioradial pruritis with cervical disc herniation which would explain the problems on my left side making my right side painful. He had not heard of this so didn't seem to care. I am now in the process of getting the Spinal Cord Stimulator trial started. It may be a bit extreme but at this point, I'm going to give it a shot. If I will be able to walk more than 30 ft without pain or be able to sleep on my right side, I'll be tickled pink. Or be able to sleep on my right I am rambling now but that's my story and I'm sticking to it! I had to retire early from my job as a result. Sounds nice, but I would really rather be working!! That's it! If anyone has any advice, I would certainly appreciate it!!</p>

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@bah1959 Welcome To Mayo Clinic Connect. You have chronic pain and you are introducing yourself to the group.

You will see that I have moved your question into a discussion where members are currently introducing themselves to the pain group. I moved your post so you could more quickly connect and get support. You will notice members like @ess77 @healthhopefreedom @johnbishop @terimel @faithwalker007 @sprinrosa64 have recently been part of this discussion and may be a good resource for you. I encourage you to scroll back through the past comments.

May I ask if you have considered getting a second opinion from a neurologist?

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I am 64 years old and have small fiber neuropathy pain that I have tried several antidepressants and anti seizure medications with no luck. I am looking for experiences that have and have not worked.

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@bah1959

<p>My Introduction</p><p>Hello, I am new to the group so need to introduce myself. I am a 61 yo female who has suffered from chronic pain for the last 3 years. I woke up one morning and was unable to bear weight on my right leg. I also had back pain at the time. I have had 3 hip replacements (two on my right and one on my left). My first thought was this is my hip. Ortho doctors have taken x rays and my hip looks fine. I was given an injection in my knee (since I was also having knee pain) Then went to a back doctor. I've had MULTIPLE steroid injections in my spine. From my L4 down to SI. The thought was that this was all sciatica pain. I've had PRP injections in my back and right hip. I've had 2 MRI's that show I've got disc protrusion on my LEFT side. So that doesn't seem to be the problem with my right side. I've done PT and acupuncture and NUCCA (which helps my back for sure!). I took myself to a neurosurgeon because I read about Brachioradial pruritis with cervical disc herniation which would explain the problems on my left side making my right side painful. He had not heard of this so didn't seem to care. I am now in the process of getting the Spinal Cord Stimulator trial started. It may be a bit extreme but at this point, I'm going to give it a shot. If I will be able to walk more than 30 ft without pain or be able to sleep on my right side, I'll be tickled pink. Or be able to sleep on my right I am rambling now but that's my story and I'm sticking to it! I had to retire early from my job as a result. Sounds nice, but I would really rather be working!! That's it! If anyone has any advice, I would certainly appreciate it!!</p>

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Hello @bah1959, I would like to add my welcome to Connect along with @erikas and others. The only weight bearing pain that I've had was when I had severe gout in my right foot. I was unable to walk or stand at the time. I found some related information that may be helpful since the X-ray did not show anything but then you mentioned also having 2 MRI's so it probably rules this out - "An occult fracture is one that does not appear well on an X-ray. A possible ... Even walking, or just putting weight on your leg may cause pain." - Possible Occult Fracture: https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?contenttypeid=134&contentid=609

@jenniferhunter may also have some experience or suggestions that she can share with you based on your symptoms.

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Hello I am Kim and I also live in pain. I was diagnosed 3 yrs ago with Myotonia Congenita Which is your muscles don’t relax, I’m in constant contraction. My pain has just recently started. I am on a muscle relaxer and 800mg twice a day and 1200 mg at night of Gabapentin which neither of them are working. I am going back to the Mayo soon to make sure there is nothing else going on. My doctors here cannot help me as MC is a rare disease. I feel for all of you who suffer with pain. I too would like to know how to relieve it at least so I can sleep.
Kim

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@bah1959

<p>My Introduction</p><p>Hello, I am new to the group so need to introduce myself. I am a 61 yo female who has suffered from chronic pain for the last 3 years. I woke up one morning and was unable to bear weight on my right leg. I also had back pain at the time. I have had 3 hip replacements (two on my right and one on my left). My first thought was this is my hip. Ortho doctors have taken x rays and my hip looks fine. I was given an injection in my knee (since I was also having knee pain) Then went to a back doctor. I've had MULTIPLE steroid injections in my spine. From my L4 down to SI. The thought was that this was all sciatica pain. I've had PRP injections in my back and right hip. I've had 2 MRI's that show I've got disc protrusion on my LEFT side. So that doesn't seem to be the problem with my right side. I've done PT and acupuncture and NUCCA (which helps my back for sure!). I took myself to a neurosurgeon because I read about Brachioradial pruritis with cervical disc herniation which would explain the problems on my left side making my right side painful. He had not heard of this so didn't seem to care. I am now in the process of getting the Spinal Cord Stimulator trial started. It may be a bit extreme but at this point, I'm going to give it a shot. If I will be able to walk more than 30 ft without pain or be able to sleep on my right side, I'll be tickled pink. Or be able to sleep on my right I am rambling now but that's my story and I'm sticking to it! I had to retire early from my job as a result. Sounds nice, but I would really rather be working!! That's it! If anyone has any advice, I would certainly appreciate it!!</p>

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@bah1959 In your description, I don't see anything that talks about physical therapists looking at your pelvis alignment. I know from my experience, when my pelvis moves out of alignment, it effectively makes one leg "longer" and puts a lot of stress on one half of my lower back. It's exhausting to try to walk like this. It also causes sciatic pain and pain that can mimic a lumbar spine problem. This can happen when hip flexors are too tight too because that pulls the pelvis out of alignment. I've struggled with that because I could not bear weight for 3 months after I broke my ankle in May. I sat for 3 months before even trying to walk again and it pulled just trying to stand properly with good posture. It was tight enough that when I tried to walk, I was short strided because my leg wouldn't extend backward. Pelvis alignment also affects knee alignment. I know that when I feel pain on the inside of my knees, that my pelvis is off. My therapist can tell just by looking at me and how I am standing where something is misaligned. If knee misalignment is off, it puts more wear and tear on part of the joint which can lead to damage that could in time create a need for a joint replacement. That's why getting the body moving properly and in correct alignment is so important.

If you are feeling pain trying to bear weight, that pain can be generated anywhere along the path of that nerve from the spine to the leg and there are multiple places where muscles can entrap these nerves.

The other issue is that each surgery you have will create scar tissue and fascial scar tissue that restricts movement. The remedy for that is a physical therapist who does myofascial release, and this can help get a pelvis leveled in the correct position. Developing muscle strength will hold it there. With each of your specialists just looking at their piece of your puzzle, no one is looking at how things might interact on a bigger scale which is where an MFR therapist can help.

Here is a link that explains how pelvis dysfunction can create these issues. You may want to look at that before more procedures. If it helps, you may not need another procedure.

https://mskneurology.com/identify-treat-lumbar-plexus-compression-syndrome-lpcs/

Here is our discussion about MFR where there is a lot of information with links on the first few pages.

https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/
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@jenniferhunter

@bah1959 In your description, I don't see anything that talks about physical therapists looking at your pelvis alignment. I know from my experience, when my pelvis moves out of alignment, it effectively makes one leg "longer" and puts a lot of stress on one half of my lower back. It's exhausting to try to walk like this. It also causes sciatic pain and pain that can mimic a lumbar spine problem. This can happen when hip flexors are too tight too because that pulls the pelvis out of alignment. I've struggled with that because I could not bear weight for 3 months after I broke my ankle in May. I sat for 3 months before even trying to walk again and it pulled just trying to stand properly with good posture. It was tight enough that when I tried to walk, I was short strided because my leg wouldn't extend backward. Pelvis alignment also affects knee alignment. I know that when I feel pain on the inside of my knees, that my pelvis is off. My therapist can tell just by looking at me and how I am standing where something is misaligned. If knee misalignment is off, it puts more wear and tear on part of the joint which can lead to damage that could in time create a need for a joint replacement. That's why getting the body moving properly and in correct alignment is so important.

If you are feeling pain trying to bear weight, that pain can be generated anywhere along the path of that nerve from the spine to the leg and there are multiple places where muscles can entrap these nerves.

The other issue is that each surgery you have will create scar tissue and fascial scar tissue that restricts movement. The remedy for that is a physical therapist who does myofascial release, and this can help get a pelvis leveled in the correct position. Developing muscle strength will hold it there. With each of your specialists just looking at their piece of your puzzle, no one is looking at how things might interact on a bigger scale which is where an MFR therapist can help.

Here is a link that explains how pelvis dysfunction can create these issues. You may want to look at that before more procedures. If it helps, you may not need another procedure.

https://mskneurology.com/identify-treat-lumbar-plexus-compression-syndrome-lpcs/

Here is our discussion about MFR where there is a lot of information with links on the first few pages.

https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/

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Thank you for all the information! My PT did work on my pelvis as part of my treatment. I will still want to look at the links you sent though.

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@erikas

@healthhopefreedom Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect, a place to give and get support.

You said that you are :"finally get into Mayo Clinic." May I ask what brings you to Mayo Clinic particularly?

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Thank you! @erikas, I have seen multiple specialists. 7 neurosurgeons. 5 Neurologists. 2 Rheumatologists. 3 Nephrologists. 4 Physical Therapists. 2 Orthopedic Surgeons. 3 Infectious Disease. 8 Psychologists. 1 Allergist. 2 Pain Management. And so much more.

I have had 15 years of unexplained symptoms and a rare disease (medullary sponge kidney) that I can’t find a local doctor to treat because no ones ever heard of it!

Upon a Mayo Neurologist learning the symptoms, (joint hypermobility, POTS, gross motor function intermittently lost, bowel issues, chronic widespread pain, burning in muscles during use, systemic weakness, recurrent infections, hypertension, menstrual complications, high risk pregnancy) we also discovered EDS as an underlying issue.

From my genes and family history it looks to be Vascular but we’re confirming with another genetic test.

I’m in a state of relief for answers but grieving because it’s not the “curable” answer I was hoping for.

V-EDS has a life expectancy avg between 48-51 years. My mom just had a stroke right at her 51 bday. Her brother died at 51 from his 4th heart attack. Her dad died at 65 from aortic aneurism. My son has clotting and bleeding issues. I can’t regulate my blood pressure or body temperature.

I haven’t worked in almost 4 months. I’m getting a bit hopeless at times. I woke up a couple days ago unable to walk normally again. It’s like my legs get stiff at the joints but wobbly and weak so I can’t get them to stay in place when I walk. I’ve nearly fallen several times but I’m usually latched on to my husbands arm.

My son is only 8 and complains of constant worsening joint pain. I can hardly take care of myself at times and the poor guy just wants to rest too. He probably also has von Wildebrands as well as inherited the EDS.

I just feel stuck. And one of my Mayo doctors think it’s fibromyalgia, but fibromyalgia is the symptoms that I’m feeling from the EDS. I feel like they are missing that point there... psychology pain clinic seems like it will try and keep me from thinking about the pain but it’s with every step I take. Every breath I breathe and more so on days that I can’t move my arms or walk, I DO need help. In days that I can, I certainly don’t go being lazy and asking for it but Thats the vibe I got from the consult with the psychology pain clinic.. is that they think I’m abusing my right to ask for help when I’m actually very independent and only ask for help when I truly can’t get my body to move with willpower.

So I’m overall just stressed about the situation and hope that I can get the right “treatment” and not keep going in circles with pain cycles and wrong diagnoses.

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@faithgirl30

@bustrbrwn22 i think you asked why I was making the switch from dilaudid to suboxone? My pain specialist made this recommendation for two reasons. First, suboxone has a naloxone component to it, making it less likely for the patient to overdose. But second, and most importantly, suboxone has been used for decades to help with patients addicted to heroin and other opiates. When patients were being transitioned from opiates to suboxone in treatment centers, they kept hearing how much suboxone was helping with long term chronic pain. This was an unexpected outcome. As such, pain specialists around the country have been very successfully transitioning their long term chronic pain patients to suboxone over the last few years with great success.

Suboxone is less addicting, less likely cause overdose in patients, is easier to manage, and doesn’t require the close supervision that other opiates require — and it provides good pain coverage for long term chronic pain patients. It also only requires you to take it once a day for 24 hour pain coverage.

The downside of suboxone? The transition from opiates to suboxone requires you go cold turkey off your opiates for 24-48 hours to induce full blown withdrawal symptoms - tremors, nausea, sweating, tearing, irritability, etc. before you can start suboxone. Once in withdrawal it is then safe to initiate the ramp up onto suboxone. We have been waiting until I was well enough to make this jump.

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@faithgirl30 hi. Just following up to see if you made the switch from dilaudid to suboxone? Just curious to know the results. Hope all is well!

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@erikas

@bah1959 Welcome To Mayo Clinic Connect. You have chronic pain and you are introducing yourself to the group.

You will see that I have moved your question into a discussion where members are currently introducing themselves to the pain group. I moved your post so you could more quickly connect and get support. You will notice members like @ess77 @healthhopefreedom @johnbishop @terimel @faithwalker007 @sprinrosa64 have recently been part of this discussion and may be a good resource for you. I encourage you to scroll back through the past comments.

May I ask if you have considered getting a second opinion from a neurologist?

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I have seen a neurosurgeon, not a neurologist. He is the one that suggested the spinal cord stimulator. I did just post something about scar tissue being a possible cause but I just pulled that one outta my...head. I am not sure how they diagnose something like that and I've been looking but can't find anything.

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