Chronic Pain members - Welcome, please introduce yourself

Posted by Kelsey Mohring @kelseydm, Apr 27, 2016

Welcome to the new Chronic Pain group.

I’m Kelsey and I’m the moderator of the group. I look forwarding to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Why not take a minute and introduce yourself.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Chronic Pain Support Group.

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Good evening @esperanza22.....you are not and never will be a bother. Meloxicam is for arthritis and is an NSAID if I recall correctly. What other prescription are they sending? Was it explained to you? The Duloxetine also called Cymbalta is just for anxiety, depression, and nerve pain. The Gabapentin is mostly for the tingles and needle-like nerve pain that seems to ramp up in the evening. I have replaced some with a THC rich Releaf Balm from P and B. (more info if you are interested) One of my decisions yet to be made is how to continue to reduce the needle-like discomfort without using medications with known side effects. Good luck you say. I agree.

May you have comfort and ease.
Chris

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@artscaping What is the THC balm you referred to and where do you find it? Thanks!

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@faithwalker007

I'm not in your league when it comes to surgeries, but I've had my share, not many electives. I guess a deviated septum procedure might be labeled elective, but I could breathe freely for the first time in my life. Cataracts, gall bladder removal, emergency toxic mega colon, 80% removed, 45" small intestine resection, peptic ulcers, bowel obstructions, SCS implant, 2x right shoulder, torn menisci right knee, brostrom procedure and implant of an internal brace in left ankle, and the recent spinal stenosis surgery. Generally, I've been blessed with good health all my life, and everything I listed above is relatively minor. I do have a number of things that require attention, esophageal dysmotility, silent reflux, sleep apnea, diplopia, decreased taste and smell, numb fingertips, bladder and bowel problems, ED, pain that has progressed from the balls of my feet and moving up my legs. Most of these things are almost certainly related to autonomic neuropathy and idiopathic small fiber peripheral polyneuropathy. Knowing that only indicates a cause. But because neuropathy isn't curable, we can only treat the symptoms, and as you know, that's no simple matter.

I only mentioned the physical issues I deal with. I began treatment of major depression in 2003. Within 2 years, depression was severe, making it impossible to function in my job, so I retired at 55 on Social Security disability. In 2005 and 06, I attempted suicide a number of times, and I self admitted to a new, very nice facility for people who have attempted suicide, and stayed for 6 weeks (typical stay is 3 days). After that I started therapy and met with a psychiatrist weekly for several months, to assess my mental health and find meds to treat it. He told me that I had major depression (no surprise there), anxiety disorder, OCD, and PTSD. I'd lived with those things a long time, unaware that there were treatments for them, just thinking that it was normal.

So, having a duel diagnosis of physical and mental illnesses, it's been really hard to keep going. Pain control and therapy for depression et al, along with the other things that come my way are an ongoing challenge. Pain and depression exacerbate each other. When the pain gets bad, I'm more depressed. Called a vicious circle. And the presence of depression, anxiety and PTSD makes it really difficult for me to do things like what we've been discussing, becoming an active advocate for those of us who have severe chronic pain. Just dealing with the volume of messages in my inbox is more than I can do many days. For me, yard work and the care of our place is therapeutic, both for depression and for pain. Even that can be overwhelming. For now, I work to take life one day at a time.

I'm rambling on, but I've come to the end of my ability to articulate.

You're an amazing person.

Jim

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@jimhd thanks for sharing

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@faithwalker007

I'm not in your league when it comes to surgeries, but I've had my share, not many electives. I guess a deviated septum procedure might be labeled elective, but I could breathe freely for the first time in my life. Cataracts, gall bladder removal, emergency toxic mega colon, 80% removed, 45" small intestine resection, peptic ulcers, bowel obstructions, SCS implant, 2x right shoulder, torn menisci right knee, brostrom procedure and implant of an internal brace in left ankle, and the recent spinal stenosis surgery. Generally, I've been blessed with good health all my life, and everything I listed above is relatively minor. I do have a number of things that require attention, esophageal dysmotility, silent reflux, sleep apnea, diplopia, decreased taste and smell, numb fingertips, bladder and bowel problems, ED, pain that has progressed from the balls of my feet and moving up my legs. Most of these things are almost certainly related to autonomic neuropathy and idiopathic small fiber peripheral polyneuropathy. Knowing that only indicates a cause. But because neuropathy isn't curable, we can only treat the symptoms, and as you know, that's no simple matter.

I only mentioned the physical issues I deal with. I began treatment of major depression in 2003. Within 2 years, depression was severe, making it impossible to function in my job, so I retired at 55 on Social Security disability. In 2005 and 06, I attempted suicide a number of times, and I self admitted to a new, very nice facility for people who have attempted suicide, and stayed for 6 weeks (typical stay is 3 days). After that I started therapy and met with a psychiatrist weekly for several months, to assess my mental health and find meds to treat it. He told me that I had major depression (no surprise there), anxiety disorder, OCD, and PTSD. I'd lived with those things a long time, unaware that there were treatments for them, just thinking that it was normal.

So, having a duel diagnosis of physical and mental illnesses, it's been really hard to keep going. Pain control and therapy for depression et al, along with the other things that come my way are an ongoing challenge. Pain and depression exacerbate each other. When the pain gets bad, I'm more depressed. Called a vicious circle. And the presence of depression, anxiety and PTSD makes it really difficult for me to do things like what we've been discussing, becoming an active advocate for those of us who have severe chronic pain. Just dealing with the volume of messages in my inbox is more than I can do many days. For me, yard work and the care of our place is therapeutic, both for depression and for pain. Even that can be overwhelming. For now, I work to take life one day at a time.

I'm rambling on, but I've come to the end of my ability to articulate.

You're an amazing person.

Jim

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Jim,
I understand, believe me. You can’t survive what we have without depression and PTSD playing a factor. I have nightmares and flash backs of them sawing my leg off.
You are not alone. I’ve had the barrel of my .38 at my temple more than once. All I can offer is Advocacy to give your life meaning as it has mine. Will you win all the time? Of course not. Uncle Sam is a power hungry beast who likes us right where he has us, but he also made a mistake... the ADA.
Read it, memorize it, and use it.

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Jim,
I understand, believe me. You can’t survive what we have without depression and PTSD playing a factor. I have nightmares and flash backs of them sawing my leg off.
You are not alone. I’ve had the barrel of my .38 at my temple more than once. All I can offer is Advocacy to give your life meaning as it has mine. Will you win all the time? Of course not. Uncle Sam is a power hungry beast who likes us right where he has us, but he also made a mistake... the ADA.
Read it, memorize it, and use it.

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@faithwalker007

I've had only 3 negative encounters with people who didn't want my service dog to be with me, but I carry a copy of the ADA rules about access for service animals. I'm sure that if I were able to read minds, I'd have heard some nasty things. So I do know the rules relating to service dogs, but there's probably a lot of other stuff I don't know.

Jim

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@faithwalker007

I've had only 3 negative encounters with people who didn't want my service dog to be with me, but I carry a copy of the ADA rules about access for service animals. I'm sure that if I were able to read minds, I'd have heard some nasty things. So I do know the rules relating to service dogs, but there's probably a lot of other stuff I don't know.

Jim

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The ADA protects us as well as preserves our liberties like anyone else in this country under the Constitution. It placed us on the same playing field. Allows us to live, not merely exist as Disabled.

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I do remember talking to you Lori! I have a suggestion about your DRG. I turned mine off (involuntarily, I put my cell phone too close to it and it shut off) for 5 days or longer. If it truly isn’t relieving any pain, you’ll know it. If it is helping AT ALL, you’ll find that out too.
Like you, I have had mine reprogrammed over and over since it was implanted and never have reached the level of relief at the trial. It has not even given me the level of relief I would say I could actually “feel” or rank.
I was actually thinking of getting my paddle leads changed out until I ran my accidental shut-off experiment. It was at that time I discovered the Stimulator does give me relief- about 20-30%. It is nothing compared to the trial but better than nothing and enough to not risk another surgery on my back.
I’ve has too many surgeries on my entire body from my eyes, ears, and nose to almost every large joint and my GI tract. I can’t have anymore elective surgeries without risking my CRPS to spread to more areas. It’s already spread too far already.
My overall pain relief goal is 50-60% and I’m close to achieving it. I’m right at 40% on a good day with the decrease to Percocet. Even on Dilaudid I only reached maybe 60 or 65% but I slept most of the day away.
Not exactly a good existence.
But I never have and still don’t know what to expect from this disease.

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Faithwalker007 Hi Renee, thanks for writing to me! I remember during my DRG trial, the doc was trying to figure out how many leads to implant in me. He turned off two leads, and I knew for sure, that having all 4 worked much better! Yes, I certainly felt the difference when there was less leads!!! Yes, I have thought of turning the whole thing off, to see the difference. I just am so scared to be in even more pain once I shut down completely. I am chicken! Today, I had an xray technician x ray my spine to make sure the leads are in place, and they are. ABBOTT adjusted again, and still hopes that I get relief. It's been almost 3 months since the surgery, so I am not too hopeful. God in heaven, Renee, I have read all that you have gone though, and it is incredulous. I think you are a true Warrior here. Just a spirited, strong, Warrior. I don't know what to even say to you. I tend to get overwhelmed with emotion, and can't find words. But I feel for you. I really do. Lori Renee

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All I can see is onward! The sooner you turn off your SCS the sooner you know if it is working at all and how much.
Then y’all can adjust your SCS and know what you have for relief even if you don’t feel like. I had to do it.

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All I can see is onward! The sooner you turn off your SCS the sooner you know if it is working at all and how much.
Then y’all can adjust your SCS and know what you have for relief even if you don’t feel like. I had to do it.

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@lorirenee1 @faithwalker007

I turned off my SCS for the month of March and felt no increase in pain. When I turned it back on a month later, there was no observable change. I turned it off another time for an MRI, and realized weeks later that I'd forgotten to turn it back on. Obviously, it's doing nothing at all for me. I leave it on, even though I know it's not treating my pain.

Jim

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@lorirenee1 @faithwalker007

I turned off my SCS for the month of March and felt no increase in pain. When I turned it back on a month later, there was no observable change. I turned it off another time for an MRI, and realized weeks later that I'd forgotten to turn it back on. Obviously, it's doing nothing at all for me. I leave it on, even though I know it's not treating my pain.

Jim

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My wife was considering a drg unit before Lori did hers. After hearing everyone's experiences she has decided to do nothing at this point. She is managing her pain (PN in feet & ankles) through lifestyle mostly. Also carefully selected supplements (I estimate we spend about $300/mo. on supps) as well as kratom and Mary Jane. She is currently trying PALMITOYLETHANOLAMIDE (PEA) as well as Theracurmin (suggested by @jeba ) and she applies Penetrex nightly before bedtime. That's the thumbnail on her approach. Best, Hank

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The trial is misleading in my opinion. They use a different type of lead (at least in my case) that produces a completely different result than the permanent leads they implant. It’s a simple case of apples and oranges.
Does the DRG SCSs work for CRPS? Of course. I’m a testament to that fact. The trial relieved almost 85-90% of my pain. In fact, I was planning to go back to work in my mind. Then I had the permanent SCS implanted and those dreams evaporated in the second it was turned on.
Do I get relief? Yes, 20-25%, maybe more on a good day. Is it worth it? Of course, it’s relief I can get no other way! It’s relief the opioids won’t give me. The Lyrica or Cymbalta I can’t take won’t give me.
So should anyone try a DRG SCS? Wow. Now that is a tricky question. It all comes down to risk vs reward. Is your pain management at a point it leaves you asking yourself, “Is this worth a shot?”
If the extra maintenance something you want and can do? Battery charging/changing, switching programs if and when pain levels warrant, dealing with hardware in your body when traveling, medical testing, etc.; Reprogramming as necessary; Changing hardware and inserted battery pack as required
The list is not extensive but it is a necessity and should be examined closely and with an extensive amount of forethought and prayer before undertaking such a life-changing treatment.
I knew my pain was not going to be able to be managed with anything other than opioids so my decision was almost a no-brainer. I had to try. Something. Anything. My results were not the greatest but acceptable.
Anyone else may or may not, hopefully may, have much more in the weapons cabinet to fight their pain.

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