Vitiligo

Posted by thomkat @thomkat, Oct 15, 2021

I posted this on the autoimmune … but would like some feed back.. If this angle into vitilago has studied or trails done.
For Chronic dehydration , like myself having no thirst drive,or others as Michael Jackson whom forced dehydration limiting fluids to avoid heavy perspiration while performing plus countless others .
Could toxins ( that most would sweat out)
Store up (build up) from not sweating, cause an autoimmune response and attack the Melanin in our skin in part be a cause for an increase in Vitilgo,?
Has this been studied?

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Think about this
Could Vitilgo be caused from chemicals poisons
Built up over time on people whom are chronically dehydrated
Then ones immune system attacks The poisons and attacks the melanin
Causing vitiligo..
I do not have thirst nor hunger drive. Am chronically dehydrated
Now I developed vitiligo where I should sweat.
Has this been studied ?.
If not , I think The Theory is plausible enough to be looked into I was told M Jackson stayed dehydrated to avoid heavy perspiration while performing.
Any thoughts on this? Could toxin build up in dermal layer be inpart a cause or a immune response?

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@thomkat Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. There is a feature where you can add your discussion to multiple groups without having to post separately, so I placed your posts together and added it to both Skin Health and Auto Immune, that way both groups can see it, but you only have to respond in one place.

Why do you think you are chronically dehydrated?

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@amandaa

@thomkat Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. There is a feature where you can add your discussion to multiple groups without having to post separately, so I placed your posts together and added it to both Skin Health and Auto Immune, that way both groups can see it, but you only have to respond in one place.

Why do you think you are chronically dehydrated?

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I dont have a thirst drive and my SG is always .30
I seldom sweat but with my Wife constant reminders I have been forcing myself to drink also to avoid severe leg burning and cramps at night.

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@thomkat Welcome to Mayo Connect. Vitiligo can be thought of as an autoimmune disease, but there hasn’t been much research into any of the autoimmune diseases. I just might have to look this up.
Vitiligo – Symptoms and causes – Mayo Clinic
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/vitiligo/symptoms-causes/syc-20355912
How long have you had vitiligo? It can be inherited—do any family members also have it?

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@thomkat Here is another article about causes of vitiligo. The article says that vitiligo is most probably autoimmune. I didn’t see anything about a relationship between dehydration and vitiligo.
https://www.umassmed.edu/vitiligo/blog/blog-posts1/2017/01/answer-to-what-causes-vitiligo/
Do you have any questions after reading the articles?

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@becsbuddy

@thomkat Welcome to Mayo Connect. Vitiligo can be thought of as an autoimmune disease, but there hasn’t been much research into any of the autoimmune diseases. I just might have to look this up.
Vitiligo – Symptoms and causes – Mayo Clinic
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/vitiligo/symptoms-causes/syc-20355912
How long have you had vitiligo? It can be inherited—do any family members also have it?

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No family history at all , i was wondering if a build up of toxins around the basal layer of skin Could cause an autoimmune response?

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@becsbuddy

@thomkat Welcome to Mayo Connect. Vitiligo can be thought of as an autoimmune disease, but there hasn’t been much research into any of the autoimmune diseases. I just might have to look this up.
Vitiligo – Symptoms and causes – Mayo Clinic
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/vitiligo/symptoms-causes/syc-20355912
How long have you had vitiligo? It can be inherited—do any family members also have it?

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I had severe pruitis for 16 months , 3 skin biopsies showed idiopathic ( we dont know) to my 1 million ant biting type pruitis..
I went to bed
on a tuesday night and Wednesday and when I woke up the itching was gone , but everywhere I was itching The pigment was gone, in all of my sweat areas.
My Va Md thought it was scabies treated 3 times lol it was never scabies my wife never got it..
Another trated me with a steroidal cream, nothing helped.
I am always very dehydrated
As I forget to drink, I am on a cpap that blows chemicals into my lungs and normal toxins That I should sweat out , I do not. Reading about people whom has vitiligo were in a profession that would
limit fluid intake to avoid perspiration,
So i was wondering if any study has been done to look into toxin build up and auto immune response?

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@thomkat

No family history at all , i was wondering if a build up of toxins around the basal layer of skin Could cause an autoimmune response?

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@thomcat. I have found nothing about toxic buildup in the skin causing an autoimmune disease. Research doesn’t mention it, either. Have you discussed this with your doctor? Does he, or any lab work, indicate toxic buildup?

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@thomkat

No family history at all , i was wondering if a build up of toxins around the basal layer of skin Could cause an autoimmune response?

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Good morning @thomcat.. i found this article fromNational Institute of Health that talks about toxins and autoimmunity. There is research being done.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3076021/.
There is more information at this link: https://www.google.com/search?q=toxins+and+autoimmune&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS796US799&oq=toxins+and+autoimmune&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512j0i22i30l2j0i390i395l2.12445j1j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Are you wanting to know how/why you got vitiligo?

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I had small signs of vitiligo (auto immune condition) starting 6 months prior to first Phyzer mRNA vaccine. There were very limited discolorations in a few places. Since the mRNA vaccine the vitiligo has been quite active and spreading over my body. I cannot be sure of causation but was concerned it has been so active and hesitant to take further mRNA at this time given my already over active and confused immune system. I would be grateful to hear from others' experience and any relevant data. I had hoped a protein vaccine would make it this country and possibly have less of an inflammatory response. Thank you

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@marla1

I had small signs of vitiligo (auto immune condition) starting 6 months prior to first Phyzer mRNA vaccine. There were very limited discolorations in a few places. Since the mRNA vaccine the vitiligo has been quite active and spreading over my body. I cannot be sure of causation but was concerned it has been so active and hesitant to take further mRNA at this time given my already over active and confused immune system. I would be grateful to hear from others' experience and any relevant data. I had hoped a protein vaccine would make it this country and possibly have less of an inflammatory response. Thank you

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@marla1, I have vitiligo. I have had 4 doses of the pfizer Covid19 vaccine and have not seen any change in my vitiligo.
I have had it since childhood and this autoimmune skin condition is hereditary on my mom’s family. I am a transplant recipient and I take immunosuppressant medicines. I have observed over my life that it seems to show up/disappear in spurts.

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Hi Rosemary, thanks for sharing. Glad it did not irritate your vitiligo. Take good care.

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