I have had depression for 35 years and am on medication. I just saw a couple of people mention the Fisher Wallace devise and I checked on their website. I was wondering if other people have had improvement using it.
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I am 60 with bipolar w/melancholic features , yeah that’s what they call it. I tried the Fischer Wallace device. I used it religiously for 40 days. Unfortunately it did not work for me at all.
They’ve tried just about everything, ECT, TMS,Ketamine and just about every drug in the cabinet, most making me sick. So, you can’t really go by me. What has worked is a modified Keto diet (equal protein and fats, no sugar and low carbs) with vigorous exercise (2hrs a day of weightlifting 6 days a week).
I also just had my testosterone levels checked and they are very low. All of my symptoms are the same as low testosterone levels. Surprise , surprise all but one of the 10 drugs I take suppresses testosterone, especially the antidepressant Venlafaxine (Effexor). It might be a good idea to get your PCP involved.
There is also a book “Brain Energy” by Palmer (Harvard,McLain) it changed my life. I was ready and set to kill myself, I’ve been sick since I was six. I read his book and decided to give it one more try. So far I’m getting better. Cut two meds, lost a bunch of weight and no longer feel compelled to kill myself.
Research, research, research! The docs no longer have time for it. No one ever tied the symptoms of my illness to low testosterone and I’ve been on the same meds for thirty years. I had to find that myself. It’s your life. Keep asking questions like you are.
I have never heard of this.
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In all 100,000 units circulating, there has never been a significant adverse reaction. Mostly, the only problem reported has been sensitivity at the skin surface where the sponges contact the skin, effectively cured by moving the sponges a bit for each treatment, or worst case, in my population, using gel electrodes instead of sponges, not an authorized modification, but in the few cases the best solution, and the device had the desired response.
Nothing works for everyone. No antidepressant, no blood pressure pill, no pain killer, never gives 100% of patients the desired or expected benefit, though often produces side effects, especially when the "More is better" approach is tried.
The FW stimulator also is not 100% effective for everyone, though the studies have consistently scored it in the 80% effective range for reducing insomnia, fatigue, anxiety, and depression. Better than any pharmacological approach for the same indications. Since the same chemistry in the brain is involved in chronic pain syndromes, it has been beneficial to that population as well, though anything that challenges Big Pharma is going to hit major resistance at the FDA level, since this first well thought out technology, the first successful "electroceutical" rather than "pharmaceutical" approach to these conditions, was rallied by every lobbyist representing companies currently supplying the sedatives, antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications would truly feel a dent in their widespread monopoly over these common problems. This is my experience not only with the Fisher Wallace device, but in getting FDA approval for very safe devices in other areas of medicine totally unrelated to the CES (Cranial Electrostimulation) devices.
Over and above the FW guarantee for refund, our office offers a nearly infinite guarantee of support and when beyond the time interval for the FW refund, even as far as a year or more, we've supported repair, refund, and additional training. In 20+ years of using and prescribing for permanent issue these devices, I'm aware of only two utter failures, refunded readily 100% and put to use as clinical trial machines to decide if a purchase is worthy, of course using fresh wires, electrode cups and batteries.
The cautionary announcement recently broadcase to all users and prescribers related to incorrectly installing the batteries to create an overheating situation has never been seen in my office or any of my patients. Before releasing any device for home use, my patients receive several sessions of training, including that they confirm immediately, before even closing the battery compartment cover, that the "green light" is flashing in the normal way, and if not, how to troubleshoot the problem, since incorrect battery installation is the most common cause, but rarely a defective battery, incorrect placement of the battery, internal breakage of the internal electronics (twice in 20 years!), is the cause. If in doubt, their unit is replaced at my expense, even after a year or two of use, and if that unit is easily repaired, its put to use as a trial stimulator after going through routine testing to assure the original 4 part microcurrent waveform is correctly delivered. But even in "seizure prone" patients, we've never had a problem using this approach. After practicing 35 years+ in my specialty, prescribing the FW100 and for years, its predecessor, I can honestly say this technology has helped countless patients for whom nothing else was effective.
Reading the grim reports in the "complaints" websites, like BBB and Ripoff or Reddit, none of the cited problems has been our experience, since we bulk purchase units and issue them out of our office to patients that stand to benefit from this approach. The bibliography in peer reviewed literature reveals hundreds of worldwide articles surrounding the use of this device and of CES in general in a multitude of settings for a wide range of individual problems.
I do not represent Fisher Wallace, nor have I any corporate interest, not a shareholder, my relationship has been simply someone trained in treating the conditions it's been effective against. There are several CES devices on the market now, some appear promising, others we've tried to integrate into the clinic but the response using them falls well short of what we observe directly, treating these problems. The FW units are in a separate class, the percentage of satisfied patients reporting "Very good" or "Excellent" response (on a scale 0-5, with 5 being Excellent and Zero meaning "No benefit"), has been around 80%, which is far better than pharmaceutical or physical /interactive approaches for the same issues.
Interestingly, since it takes several weeks of twice daily use to assess one's clinical response, the two units returned for refund to our office, on inspection, suggested the device was used only a few times rather than the twice daily x 6 weeks trial, in both cases from patients that were already skeptical of the approach, more interested in "more pills, stronger pills" than giving an authentic trial to the electroceutical.
This is only our personal experience with the device and the response observed, we have no administrative, monetary, or any other relationship to the manufacturer and do not represent any right of input or comments related to others' experience with the FW company or its affiliates. Our opinions and reported experience with the device are strictly our own. There are multiple "Lay literature" articles in venues as diverse as "Elle" magazine or "The Wall Street Journal" or Scientific American, dating back from current content to similar approaches 40 years ago. It is erroneous to state "There is no evidence these devices have a scientifically researched basis that they work", when any simple search will pull up dozens and dozens of citations in US and International literature. Just one clinic's opinion, but this technology has changed lives when all prior approaches failed.
Sorry, noticed a typo......lobbyists rallied (against) this first electroceutical. (Not "for") as the sentence incorrectly implied.
Did you gave any luck with the Fisher device? If I can ask what condition are you suffering from. Mine is daily persistent migraines.
Please listen to the New JRE podcast (Joe Rogan) His guest, Graham Hancock talks about how indigenous medicine cured his migraines. (he starts talking about it at 1hour 55 min into the podcast) Please check it out because I signed up for this just to let you know about this. Lol I just heard the podcast today. Best of luck 🥰
I started using the Fisher-Wallace stimulator and felt some relief after just a few days. Unfortunately, it gave me bad headaches even at lowest level so I discontinued using the device. This is a very infrequent side effect but it was my experience. Very disappointing...
I used the Fisher-Wallace device daily for three months it did not help me. Neither did it hurt me in any way that I know of.
Then again I did not get relief from ECT, TMS, Ketamine and fourteen different meds.
Treatment for mental health care is always a bit of trial and error. I have never spared any expense when it has come to trying to get better. Ultimately being rich or poor (I've been both multiple times) has never seemed to make much of a difference.
There are only two things I know work for sure that have no bad side effects; nutrition and movement. Yeah the dread diet and exercise.
I spend four to five hours a day doing research regarding mental health care. I've been at it for four months. And after twenty years researching investments for a living, research is one of the few things I know how to do. Little did I know it wouldn't require much skill.
Every respectable institution (those not trying to make money off of people suffering) list good nutrition and exercise as the first and second recommendations for addressing mental health issues. The recommendation (instructions really) is to address both together.
I ignored these two simple, not easy, issues all my life. But when I thought about it; what could possibly have a greater effect on my mental health, all health for that matter, than what I put in my body, day after day, week after week, year after year for my entire life. And movement, exercise is critical what it means to be human. I ignore it at my peril.
Sleep is the third pillar of robust health. The best part about sleep is if I address the first two, sleep follows naturally.
Years ago I went searching for a solution in a pill. The medical establishment was more than happy to give it to me. Fast forward fifteen years I'm on fourteen different meds I lost have lost my family, my fortune and my freedom.
Not one doctor ever suggested that my diet, lack of exercise and sleep might be what was killing me, not one. Four months later and I will be off all fourteen (only fractions of two left) meds by Thanksgiving.
And yeah my current doctors have supported me every step of the way. It took a little convincing but to their credit they stepped up.
The worst part, all my suffering is my fault.
I never asked any questions. I wanted an easy fix. I wanted to keep doing what I was doing. I knew better. The result has been the destruction of everything I held dear and tremendous suffering for the people that loved me.
The information is and has been everywhere. A Google search gave me everything I needed to know on page one.
I'm now sixty and hope I live long enough to try to make amends to those my selfishness and arrogance hurt so badly.
I do not like to tell people what to do. So, these are the questions I had to ask myself:
How badly did I want to get better?
How much fire was left inside of me?
And if I wasn't going to "get busy living" I might as well get busy; well you know!
The second question was if every, I mean every, credible institution was making it clear what I needed to do why not give it a try? I'd tried everything else, legal and illegal.
Why had not one healthcare professional (and I've seen too many to keep track of) ever even asked me about the three pillars of good health, nutrition, exercise and sleep?
I have a lot of theories but ultimately it doesn't really matter.
Now that I know I have no one to look to except me.
Whatever, treatment you or anyone embraces it is my fervent hope that you find lasting peace from your suffering.
Remember you are loved.
Lastly in case anyone thinks there is anything special about me; I am pathetically average! I was simply given the gift of desperation.
Be well one and all!
Oh, migraines are the worst. I just started FW twice a day. Not for migraines , but maybe it will help you.
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