Autoimmune? Undiagnosed and don’t know where to go next

Posted by beanie300 @beanie300, Nov 7, 2018

I am posting here in hopes that someone out there has experienced something similar or can at least tell me where to turn next when it comes to figuring out my illness. A friend of mine who has lupus said it sounded like it could be autoimmune but I really don’t know anymore!

The following chunk is going to be a long medical history and I apologize, I just want to give as much information as possible in hopes of getting help.

I was born premature but had amazing algae scores and was sent home that day. My mother tells me I was always sick as a baby with chronic throat infections of some kind or other. She made the doctors remove my tonsils before I was 2 in hopes that it would help but it didn’t seem to. Growing up I remember always being sick. I seemed to get every bug going around but was always especially susceptible to strep throat infections and sinus infections. I was sick so much that by highschool I am pretty sure I only was actually able to attend around 2/3 of the total days in the school year. Maybe even less than that and this wasn’t me staying home with colds, this was constant stomach flu, upset respritory infections, and of course strep throat. I also had constant hives and dermatographia since I was young and still have it to this day! The doctors always wrote it off, saying it was probably a food allergy, but never really looked into it. I also never ran fevers as a kid and instead run at a constant 97.6.

In 2016 my constant bad health seemed to take a turn for the worst. Right after graduating highschool I got so sick I was bedridden for the whole summer. I was throwing up, having joint pain, and sleeping all the time. No fever but I NEVER run fevers. After a month of it my mother took me in to my family doctor. She ran a mono test and Lyme test which both came back negative but she was sure it was mono so she told me to come back in a few weeks. I did but the test was negative again, and then again when I came in another month later. My white counts were high but they couldn’t figure out what was wrong other than that. Finally after 4 months I got better and stopped going back to the doctor, just in time for me to go to my freshmen year of college.

I made it through my first semester, despite the fact I got stomach flu and strep a few times but then part way through my second semester I got sick again. I was throwing up to the point I had to be hospitalized for fluids. All of my lymph nodes were so swollen I didn’t even look like I had a neck and was having a hard time swallowing. This time it turned out I actually did have mono. I had to leave my college and go home to recover. It took a total of about 4 months to get better but I never felt 100% again after that. My doctor told me it could take up to a year to feel fully better so I decided to take time off of college and get a job.

The job lasted about three months. I was so tired in that time that I would get up to go to work, struggle through my shift, go home, and immediately go to sleep. I was only awake about 10 hours a day but I figured it was just because I wasn’t used to working and would adjust. Then I started developing severe joint pain and stiffness, to the point that it was hard to get up off the couch simply because I couldn’t unbend. Both of my parents have rheumatoid arthritis so I assumed it was that and went in to my doctor for testing. I was only 20 and knew I shouldn’t be feeling as old as I suddenly felt. She ran an ANA that came back normal. A week later I passed out in the shower. My parents and I assumed maybe the water had been to hit and left it at that. Another week later I passed out at work. The fainting episodes became a normal part of my life which led to me quitting my job.

I went to see my primary physician again but she was clueless. She ran a complete blood count, metobolic panel, and tested me for Addison’s disease. It all came back fine aside from a slightly elevated white blood count. She then referred me to doctor number 2, an internist.

Doctor number 2 was probably the best I had ever seen. Listened to my story then tested me for dermatographia before I had even mentioned the hives or dermatographia. He sent me to an allergist.

Doctor number 3, the allergist. I explained the dermatographia and the fact that I had it, along with hives, since I was a kid. We had never been able to link the hives to any food and explained that sometimes I would break out in hives because of the heat or because of crying or getting stressed. He told me he couldn’t test me with the scratch test because I had dermatographia but that he could test my blood for allergies. He told me he didn’t think this would be helpful however because the would only be able to test for a few things and he said my hives sounded idiopathic. I went home without the test.

I followed up with my internist, doctor number 2, but while the nurse was taking my vitals she found I had a heart murmur. I was sent for an ultrasound of my heart and they found I had a mitral valve prolapse but told me it was nothing to be concerned about. I went back in later for the follow up and the nurse took my vitals and found I had a heart arythmia. They gave me a 24 hour heart monitor. I only actually ended up wearing the monitor for 20 hours because the sticky pad things they used caused my skin to blister up and peel off.

The cardiologist I saw, doctor number 4, told me my heart murmur was benign and then went on to suggest that maybe I was on too many medications due to the fact that I take an anti anxiety, and antidepressant.

Back to doctor number 2, my internist. He gave me two different anti-histamines and sent me home in hopes it would improve my symptoms.

All of my symptoms kept getting worse. I developed brain fog, trouble concentrating, headaches, and none of my previous symptoms improved. I turned to the internet in hopes of figuring out why I was fainting and read about postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome or POTS for short. I went to my doctor that week and asked if he had ever heard of it. He told me he didn’t think that was what I had, as it was rare, and sent me home. My mother convinced me to go back and demand to be tested, and it turns out I do have POTS. On an average day, my heart rate laying is 55 and it jumps to 130 when I am standing.

Thankfully now that I know what is going on I was able to start managing symptoms and hoped it would help with everything from the fainting to fatigue, joint pain to brain fog.

I started developing new symptoms. My brain seems to scramble words when I read now or it messes up grammar. I have a persistent pain in my left side that doctors can’t explain. My rib cage in the front on my left side also goes through flair ups where it hurts when I breath and I have been developing migraines.

The fatigue got worse until I was only awake about 2-4 hours a day total and all of my lymph glands swelled up again. It felt like when I had mono so I went in to try and figure out what was going on. My internist sent me to doctor number 5, an infectious disease specialist, who told me I had a mono reactivation. At this point it had been exactly a year since I left college with my first bout of mono. He said it was really rare and he wanted to test my immune system. He ran a complete blood count, C-reactive protein test, t-cell test, and a few others. Everything came back normal.

My doctor said he had no idea why I got mono again and seems to have no idea what to do with my other symptoms! I want to ask for more tests but I don’t even know what tests to ask for anymore or what doctors to ask to see and I am afraid they are going to diagnose me as a hypochondriac!

Currently my symptoms are
– dermatographia
– hives (particularly when upset but often without obvious cause)
– migraines
– joint pain
– joint stiffness
– Nausea
– loss of appitite
– brain fog
– trouble concentrating
– extreme fatigue
– vomiting, sometimes without even feeling ill beforehand
– dizziness
– pain in my left side, about where my spleen is, but doctors say my spleen is not enlarged
– pain in my ribs sometimes when I breath that lasts a few hours
– no fevers ever.
-numbness and tingling in my hands and feet at times
– mouth ulcers. (I have had these since I was a kid. The come and go. I sort of get break outs of them)

Anyone have any ideas? Anything helps. I just want to go finish college and move on to my career but can’t do that while I am this sick! I am a 21 year old white female if that helps anything.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Autoimmune Diseases Support Group.

@shellieaxton

I have tested positive for Autoimmune Disease. However I have no idea which one. I have been tested for many different kinds but no answers. First it was Sjogrens, maybe Lupus, maybe this maybe that. Now I have started getting fluid filled bumps on my scalp that won't go away.
Has anyone else had this situation? Not being able to determine what the disease is.

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@shelliexton Welcome to connect We share our experience about our disease and what we can help you with. OUr group is a caring group and if you want to vent you can and feel safe here . I cant address the bumps on your head but has your Dr taken a biopsy of them? Do you have any underlying disease that you have been diagnosed with ? Has your Dr done a complete work up on you to see if he can find anything? I think this is where I would start with your Dr running these test . Good luck Let us know how you are doing and if you just want to talk we will listen

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I have tested positive for Autoimmune Disease. However I have no idea which one. I have been tested for many different kinds but no answers. First it was Sjogrens, maybe Lupus, maybe this maybe that. Now I have started getting fluid filled bumps on my scalp that won't go away.
Has anyone else had this situation? Not being able to determine what the disease is.

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Hi @shellieaxton and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. You'll notice that I moved your message to this existing discussion called "Autoimmune? Undiagnosed and don’t know where to go next." I did this so that you can meet other members who are searching for a diagnosis, like @becsbuddy @christina65 @johnbishop and more.

I encourage you to follow the Autoimmune Diseases group. Click this link https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/autoimmune-diseases/ and browse the
many discussions.

You will soon discover of whole community of people who have asked similar questions and how they found answers. You're not alone.

Like @lioness, I too would be interested to know what your doctor said will be the next steps. Are you scheduled for more testing?

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@shellieaxton

I have tested positive for Autoimmune Disease. However I have no idea which one. I have been tested for many different kinds but no answers. First it was Sjogrens, maybe Lupus, maybe this maybe that. Now I have started getting fluid filled bumps on my scalp that won't go away.
Has anyone else had this situation? Not being able to determine what the disease is.

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@shellieaxton May I add my welcome, also! We are not doctors, and cannot diagnose, but we do offer support, encouragement, and our own experiences as we all navigate our health journeys.
I can relate my experience to a diagnosis of Systemic Lupus, way back in 1988! As a dr explained to me, they started with a blood test, looked at results and values, then determined which test to do next, to narrow down what was going on with me. They factored in physical signs and symptoms. It is my understanding that autoimmune conditions can mimic other things, so they had to eliminate them one by one. This might be the phase you are going through.
May I suggest that you keep a journal of sorts, to write down different things you observe, like the bumps on your scalp. Note day, time, environment, pain/discomfort level. Remember, by the time you get back to dr, that symptom may not be present for him/her to observe. Details are a good thing.
Please come back and let us know how you are doing. What gives you relief right now from the bumps on your head, or overall discomfort?
Ginger

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@colleenyoung

Hi @shellieaxton and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. You'll notice that I moved your message to this existing discussion called "Autoimmune? Undiagnosed and don’t know where to go next." I did this so that you can meet other members who are searching for a diagnosis, like @becsbuddy @christina65 @johnbishop and more.

I encourage you to follow the Autoimmune Diseases group. Click this link https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/autoimmune-diseases/ and browse the
many discussions.

You will soon discover of whole community of people who have asked similar questions and how they found answers. You're not alone.

Like @lioness, I too would be interested to know what your doctor said will be the next steps. Are you scheduled for more testing?

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Colleen, This is Sundance, aka Richard. I had posted some very vital info I just learned about consorning Lyme Disease and new findings.
I had posted it on the Autoimune site. John Bishop sent me an email that he was moving it somewhere else, but I don't know where.
Thinking about it, I feel it needs to stay on the Autoimune site.
Can you help.
Richard

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@sundance6

Colleen, This is Sundance, aka Richard. I had posted some very vital info I just learned about consorning Lyme Disease and new findings.
I had posted it on the Autoimune site. John Bishop sent me an email that he was moving it somewhere else, but I don't know where.
Thinking about it, I feel it needs to stay on the Autoimune site.
Can you help.
Richard

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Hi Richard @sundance6 - we moved the information to the original Lyme Disease discussion you started here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/lyme-disease-1/?pg=7#comment-382130.

It's OK to have the information here also I just thought that people searching for information would more than likely find it in the discussion you first started. Here's the highly recommended information you posted for members with no diagnosis and not knowing where to go next.

Seasons on the Fly – Lyme Disease Information! — http://www.seasonsonthefly.com/blog/?page_id=89

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@shellieaxton

I have tested positive for Autoimmune Disease. However I have no idea which one. I have been tested for many different kinds but no answers. First it was Sjogrens, maybe Lupus, maybe this maybe that. Now I have started getting fluid filled bumps on my scalp that won't go away.
Has anyone else had this situation? Not being able to determine what the disease is.

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Hi @shellieaxton, I would like to add my welcome to Connect along with @colleenyoung and other members. You might be interested in some information recently shared by @sundance6 about Lyme disease in the post directly above this one.

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@johnbishop

Hi Richard @sundance6 - we moved the information to the original Lyme Disease discussion you started here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/lyme-disease-1/?pg=7#comment-382130.

It's OK to have the information here also I just thought that people searching for information would more than likely find it in the discussion you first started. Here's the highly recommended information you posted for members with no diagnosis and not knowing where to go next.

Seasons on the Fly – Lyme Disease Information! — http://www.seasonsonthefly.com/blog/?page_id=89

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John I understand. But when I stared looking for info on Lyme I stared in the Autoimune section. As the web site I mentioned many people are misdiagnosed on Lyme Disease. They maybe looking for like symptoms but don't know it could be Lyme Disease.
Thanks, Richard

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@shellieaxton

I have tested positive for Autoimmune Disease. However I have no idea which one. I have been tested for many different kinds but no answers. First it was Sjogrens, maybe Lupus, maybe this maybe that. Now I have started getting fluid filled bumps on my scalp that won't go away.
Has anyone else had this situation? Not being able to determine what the disease is.

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Hello @shellieaxton . I can just imagine how frustrating not knowing must be. @gingerw has given some good advice about making a list. Are you seeing a rheumatologist? What symptoms prompted you to see a doctor? I started having symptoms months before I got a diagnosis. I finally begged for an MRI because I thought I was having a stroke. No stroke, but I did have lesions on the brain. I finally got to a doctor at a university medical center. A neurologist knew exactly what it was and has been overseeing my care since. Just keep advocating for yourself! Call a medical center and say that you need a specialist. Course, now with Covid-19, things are going to be more difficult, but try anyway. And let me know what you learn

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@gingerw

@shellieaxton May I add my welcome, also! We are not doctors, and cannot diagnose, but we do offer support, encouragement, and our own experiences as we all navigate our health journeys.
I can relate my experience to a diagnosis of Systemic Lupus, way back in 1988! As a dr explained to me, they started with a blood test, looked at results and values, then determined which test to do next, to narrow down what was going on with me. They factored in physical signs and symptoms. It is my understanding that autoimmune conditions can mimic other things, so they had to eliminate them one by one. This might be the phase you are going through.
May I suggest that you keep a journal of sorts, to write down different things you observe, like the bumps on your scalp. Note day, time, environment, pain/discomfort level. Remember, by the time you get back to dr, that symptom may not be present for him/her to observe. Details are a good thing.
Please come back and let us know how you are doing. What gives you relief right now from the bumps on your head, or overall discomfort?
Ginger

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I was beginning to think I was the only one with this problem. In the last few months I have started having bumps on my head that at first I thought were cysts. They are painful sometimes. They just have clear fluid no infection. I'm really frustrated. I did test positive for Lupus Anticoagulant for a while. Then all of a sudden testing was negative.

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