Ultrasensitive PSA test results: Should I be concerned?

Posted by ginger38314 @ginger38314, Feb 21 6:37pm

I'm currently 68 starting at 65 in 2023 my psa was 4.1 after 1 month recheck 2.1 then 2024 3.85 2025 3.75 then this most recent test 5.09. Went to see an urologist last August before my last test for piece of mind and a DRE he said I had a very large non-nodular prostate and said not a concern for cancer at this time. I go for a retest in 3 weeks I've been very concerned about the sudden rise. But have no symptoms and feel great.

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That happened 3 years ago went weightlifting before psa and extensive hiking was. elevated retest 1 month later dropped 2 points.

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Profile picture for kujhawk1978 @kujhawk1978

Ok, the age old dilemma, how do I know..."?

PSA and DRE by themselves may not answer that question...

As others have pointed out, other factors may be in play such as UTI...

I've seen in discussions about pre-PSA testing things to avoid such as sex, bike riding...can't say that I've seen discussion about walking and lifting weights but hey, possibly?

There are other tests which may indicate yes or no.
https://www.urotoday.com/recent-abstracts/urologic-oncology/prostate-cancer/163806-a-sensitive-and-specific-non-invasive-urine-biomarker-panel-for-prostate-cancer-detection-beyond-the-abstract.html
https://www.medpagetoday.com/urology/prostatecancer/118778
https://www.google.com/search
https://www.google.com/search
Discuss these with your medical team. If they see value, the results could then guide a discussion about doing a MRI, potentially a MPRI.

I understand that finding its way into mainstream clinical practice is relying less on the TRUS biopsy and more on tests and imaging such as I listed. Still, old habits die hard in mainstream clinical practice so your medical team may need a nudge.

Kevin

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That happened 3 years ago was elevated layed off any strenuous excerize,
after retest dropped 2 points.

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Profile picture for lsk1000 @lsk1000

5.09 PSA is still relatively low, and it has not doubled in any 6 month or year period of time so that’s a good sign.
FYI: A PSMA scan is more conclusive for determining if it’s cancer than a PSA lab test

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@lsk1000 Quite correct. But I believe the insurance and Medicare will require a diagnosis of PC before they will cover cost of a PSMA. First one at University of Iowa in 2022. They billed $30,000 for it. So they are pricy. I think cost is trending downward

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Profile picture for brianjarvis @brianjarvis

Regarding your situation —> You mentioned that your urologist said you “…had a very large non-nodular prostate..”
—> How large is your prostate?

You also mentioned that your urologist said “…not a concern for cancer at this time.”

He’s apparently aware that larger prostates can produce more PSA without it being cancerous. Measure this by calculating your PSA Density.
—> What is your PSA Density?

—> What is your % Free PSA?

Also, have them test for other conditions that might cause a PSA spike: UTI, prostatitis, or anything else that might cause PSA to increase abnormally. (Did they do the DRE before or after the PSA test?)

With your concern about an elevated PSA, have you had any other liquid biomarker tests (just to have another datapoint)?

Mayo Clinic uses an age-based PSA range (see attached). Your PSA is only slightly elevated based on that chart.

If after all those considerations you’re still concerned, an MRI would be your next step.

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@brianjarvis

And I think CDC is essentially the same on screening standards. I would have totally slipped through the cracks on PC. All my psa were below trigger thresholds. If I had not been accidentally biopsied and found Gleason 7- 15 years ago with a psa of point 3 and monitored Active Surveillance (15 years) I would have likely died of PC. I’m over 70, (age 70 I was below psa of 2) with a pre treatment psa that rose to 6.3. Biopsied with G8. Treated. Time will tell if successful. Currently psa is < .02.

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Profile picture for ginger38314 @ginger38314

That happened 3 years ago was elevated layed off any strenuous excerize,
after retest dropped 2 points.

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@ginger38314

Glad you had the results you did after making adjustments in your pre-draw routine.

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Profile picture for oldgreenpaint @oldgreenpaint

@brianjarvis

And I think CDC is essentially the same on screening standards. I would have totally slipped through the cracks on PC. All my psa were below trigger thresholds. If I had not been accidentally biopsied and found Gleason 7- 15 years ago with a psa of point 3 and monitored Active Surveillance (15 years) I would have likely died of PC. I’m over 70, (age 70 I was below psa of 2) with a pre treatment psa that rose to 6.3. Biopsied with G8. Treated. Time will tell if successful. Currently psa is < .02.

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I wish you the best.

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Profile picture for kujhawk1978 @kujhawk1978

@ginger38314

Glad you had the results you did after making adjustments in your pre-draw routine.

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The walking I do is pretty intense 12 miles 3.45 hours lots of hills, so I
definitely feel it in my pelvic area so just to be on the safe side I will
lay off for a week.

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I didn’t read the other comments, but thinking to the day you had blood drawn for the recent PSA, did you have sex the night before? PSA rises with sexual activity, and decreases within a day or so. Also, active, dedicate serious bike riders who ride on a racing saddle (most often) are known to have elevated PSA levels a day or two after a long ride.

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Profile picture for rlpostrp @rlpostrp

I didn’t read the other comments, but thinking to the day you had blood drawn for the recent PSA, did you have sex the night before? PSA rises with sexual activity, and decreases within a day or so. Also, active, dedicate serious bike riders who ride on a racing saddle (most often) are known to have elevated PSA levels a day or two after a long ride.

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The day before I walked 12 miles than went to the gym and lifted weights.

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Best wishes! Not to scare you, but want to inform you. PSA test alone cannot confirm what you have on prostate. DRE only see the back wall of prostate glad. If you're worried about elevating PSA, please talk to your doctor about getting MP-MRI (3T one) to check because it can visualize the entire prostate gland.

My husband was 47 with elevated PSA of 6.2. His DRE exam was normal and found nothing. However, the chief urologist said to be on the safe side, he should get 3T-MRI to check the entire prostate gland. We're thankful for his prompt action because my husband actually had prostate cancer, which were found in the front of prostate gland that DRE exam couldn't access. It explained why his DRE exam was normal.

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