Ultrasensitive PSA test results: Should I be concerned?

Posted by ginger38314 @ginger38314, Feb 21 6:37pm

I'm currently 68 starting at 65 in 2023 my psa was 4.1 after 1 month recheck 2.1 then 2024 3.85 2025 3.75 then this most recent test 5.09. Went to see an urologist last August before my last test for piece of mind and a DRE he said I had a very large non-nodular prostate and said not a concern for cancer at this time. I go for a retest in 3 weeks I've been very concerned about the sudden rise. But have no symptoms and feel great.

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Depending on lab and method PSA can vary by as much as 20%. Something to keep in mind if the tests were done by different labs (and Quest, LabCorp the two largest use different methods). PSA can also be elevated with recent sex or an infection. Did you get prescribed antibiotics to eliminate that possibility for the retest? That said, if you have prostate cancer it will continue to rise. At these levels the Ultrasensitive test is a waste of money (that is to get to .001 levels for post prostate removal when PSA should be close to zero). Should insist on a PSA Free test along with normal PSA (lab can use the same blood draw for both tests). If elevated PSA is due to cancer the free PSA will be much lower than if due to other causes. Not nearly as good as PSE / Episwitch (same test) but cost is about the same as PSA. The PSE costs about $1K and insurance is not likely to cover without a longer and higher history of elevated PSA unless you are on classic Medicare. An mpMRI or PSE is a next step if free PSA indicates cancer is likely. If PSE indicates cancer than the mpMRI is still required to locate lesions so you may go direct to that step.
As mentioned, if prostate cancer has any symptoms before it metastasizes, they are the same as a non-cancerous enlarged prostate.

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I'm a very active person I walk 12 miles daily and weight lift 5 days per
week, I did the 12 miles and weights 2 days prior. I'm hoping that's what
it is because the same thing happened 3 years ago, this time on my retest
the doctor said only very lite walking the week prior.

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I'm a very active person I walk 12 miles daily and weight lift 5 days per
week, I did the 12 miles and weights 2 days prior. I'm hoping that's what
it is because the same thing happened 3 years ago, this time on my retest
the doctor said only very lite walking the week prior.

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@ginger38314, any update? How are you doing?

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I have a retest on 3/17, than either way a follow-up wit h an urologist a week later, doctor says no 12 mile walks or weight lifting the week prior, just want to get this issue resolved and to quit worrying about it all the time, other than that physically I feel good, thanks.

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in a previous discussion @handera mentioned the MPS2 Test which studies show is maybe even more accurate than the PSE and PSA tests for detecting cancer in the prostate. Worth researching.

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Right now I'm going in for retest in two weeks. Even if it goes back to normal I'm going to request an mri, thanks

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5.09 PSA is still relatively low, and it has not doubled in any 6 month or year period of time so that’s a good sign.
FYI: A PSMA scan is more conclusive for determining if it’s cancer than a PSA lab test

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Regarding your situation —> You mentioned that your urologist said you “…had a very large non-nodular prostate..”
—> How large is your prostate?

You also mentioned that your urologist said “…not a concern for cancer at this time.”

He’s apparently aware that larger prostates can produce more PSA without it being cancerous. Measure this by calculating your PSA Density.
—> What is your PSA Density?

—> What is your % Free PSA?

Also, have them test for other conditions that might cause a PSA spike: UTI, prostatitis, or anything else that might cause PSA to increase abnormally. (Did they do the DRE before or after the PSA test?)

With your concern about an elevated PSA, have you had any other liquid biomarker tests (just to have another datapoint)?

Mayo Clinic uses an age-based PSA range (see attached). Your PSA is only slightly elevated based on that chart.

If after all those considerations you’re still concerned, an MRI would be your next step.

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I agree, last August I went in for the dre on my own accord. He said non-nodular large prostrate I have a retest in 2 weeks will know more then, thanks

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Ok, the age old dilemma, how do I know..."?

PSA and DRE by themselves may not answer that question...

As others have pointed out, other factors may be in play such as UTI...

I've seen in discussions about pre-PSA testing things to avoid such as sex, bike riding...can't say that I've seen discussion about walking and lifting weights but hey, possibly?

There are other tests which may indicate yes or no.
https://www.urotoday.com/recent-abstracts/urologic-oncology/prostate-cancer/163806-a-sensitive-and-specific-non-invasive-urine-biomarker-panel-for-prostate-cancer-detection-beyond-the-abstract.html
https://www.medpagetoday.com/urology/prostatecancer/118778
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Discuss these with your medical team. If they see value, the results could then guide a discussion about doing a MRI, potentially a MPRI.

I understand that finding its way into mainstream clinical practice is relying less on the TRUS biopsy and more on tests and imaging such as I listed. Still, old habits die hard in mainstream clinical practice so your medical team may need a nudge.

Kevin

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