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Typical Carcinoid Tumor in Lungs

Posted by @dzerfas, Jan 17, 2017

I was diagnosed in April 2016 with a Typical Carcinoid Tumor in my right lower lobe, approx. 3 cms. It has remained stable, per most recent CT scan in Dec. I have no symptoms. I am curious if others have been in this situation and if you opted to “watch and wait” or have surgery right away – mine would be a lobectomy of the right lower lobe. Can Typical Carcinoids become Atypical? Blessings to all on this journey!

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@dzerfas Hello and welcome to Mayo Connect. We would enjoy getting to know you better. If you would like to share something about your carcinoid, we would be interested in hearing what led to your diagnosis. Were you having specific symptoms that led to the CT scan in December? I’ve also had carcinoid tumors, but in the digestive tract. We actually have a group dedicated to those of us who deal with carcinoids. I’m not familiar with the term “Typical Carcinoid.” I’d like to introduce you to @joanney, who has also had a carcinoid in the lung and had surgery several years ago. Perhaps she can shed some light on your situation. Here is a Mayo website that you might find interesting: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/has-anyone-used-mayo-clinic-in-rochester-minnesota-for-carcinoid-tumors-the/. In the meantime, we look forward to getting to know you and walking with you on health journey.

Hi @dzerfas, welcome to Connect. There are a number of people talking about carcinoid tumors in this discussion:
– Carcinoid cancer http://mayocl.in/2cK4PdN

I’d like to introduce you to @amyh2439 who also has lung carcinoid cancer. Ruth Ann, do you have typical or atypical NETs. I’m also inviting @hopeful33520 @joannem @tresjur and @jenchaney727 into the conversation.

@dzerfas, I couldn’t find any information online about typical carcinoids becoming atypical. That would be a good question to ask your oncologist. Watching and waiting can be difficult, but keep in mind that you will be closely monitored. How often do you go for scans?

@hopeful33250

@dzerfas Hello and welcome to Mayo Connect. We would enjoy getting to know you better. If you would like to share something about your carcinoid, we would be interested in hearing what led to your diagnosis. Were you having specific symptoms that led to the CT scan in December? I’ve also had carcinoid tumors, but in the digestive tract. We actually have a group dedicated to those of us who deal with carcinoids. I’m not familiar with the term “Typical Carcinoid.” I’d like to introduce you to @joanney, who has also had a carcinoid in the lung and had surgery several years ago. Perhaps she can shed some light on your situation. Here is a Mayo website that you might find interesting: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/has-anyone-used-mayo-clinic-in-rochester-minnesota-for-carcinoid-tumors-the/. In the meantime, we look forward to getting to know you and walking with you on health journey.

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Hey Teresa, it looks like we were writing at the same time 🙂 Here’s some information about Lung Carcinoid Tumors from the American Cancer Society that I found useful to understand the difference. http://bit.ly/1MwcPgG

@dzertas, I did a little research and found this website that you might find helpful. It explains the difference between typical and aypical carcinoids.
http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/carcinoid-tumors-of-the-lungs

Hi dzerfas, I really think you should go ahead and have the surgery. From all of my experience of going to conferences and following what others have done including myself, surgery and getting rid of this tumour before it has a chance to get bigger and spread to lymph nodes is the best way to deal with it, and after you have it removed you should still be followed by someone who knows Carcinoid(Neuroendocrine Cancer). Best of luck. I had my lobectomy in 2002 for a typical carcinoid tumour and am still being followed by an Oncologist.

Hello @dzerfas

I was thinking about you. It has been a while since you last posted. How are you doing?

Teresa

Greetings. I am a newbee and just joined. I have a lung carcinoid. Actually there are two with a few nodes thrown in. I was diagnosed in May 2017. They are inoperable. I am currently on lanreotide monthly. I have local MDs (Levine Cancer) and have oversight from UNC-Chapel Hill. I know a lot and know nothing at the same time. GAP

@gapsc

Greetings. I am a newbee and just joined. I have a lung carcinoid. Actually there are two with a few nodes thrown in. I was diagnosed in May 2017. They are inoperable. I am currently on lanreotide monthly. I have local MDs (Levine Cancer) and have oversight from UNC-Chapel Hill. I know a lot and know nothing at the same time. GAP

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Hello @gapsc and welcome to Mayo Connect

I am Teresa, a volunteer mentor with Connect and I have had three surgeries for carcinoids of the upper digestive tract. When you say, "I know a lot and know nothing at the same time" you speak for most of us with this rare disorder. The information about neuroendocrine tumors (carcinoids) is a growing field, but considering it's rare we all feel a little lost when when receive this diagnosis.

If you are comfortable sharing more, can you tell us what symptoms led to your diagnosis? Do you have symptoms of carcinoid syndrome? How are feeling now that you are taking lanreotide monthly?

We have a few members who also have lung carcinoids and I hope they will join the conversation soon. In the meantime, here is some information about the latest in carcinoid treatment from a conference in Wisconsin that was led by some Mayo doctors,

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Here are some of our members, @amyh2439 @tresjur @joannem @gaylejean @lucci50 @derekd @gulzar @joanney @jenchaney727 @dzerfas @lorettanebraska @wordnoid @trouble and @upblueeyes @ahtaylor @heidilynn4 @junebug15 @gman007 @mollie59 @amani79 @collielady @somefan @debf @immmm @kenlucier @somefan @nancymcegg @ajnaudra @meppard @linnythepoo @nigelvw @mgreene @jimdc @jls77 @sharik @tomewilson

I look forward to hearing from you again. Connect is here to support and encourage you!

Teresa

@gapsc

Greetings. I am a newbee and just joined. I have a lung carcinoid. Actually there are two with a few nodes thrown in. I was diagnosed in May 2017. They are inoperable. I am currently on lanreotide monthly. I have local MDs (Levine Cancer) and have oversight from UNC-Chapel Hill. I know a lot and know nothing at the same time. GAP

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Hello ya all. Had a rough time signing back in, but finally did the deed. Hope it continues to work. To answer your question Teresa. the immediate symptom was a severe coughing episode with blood. that sent me to the ER. I was recovering from an operation which had nothing to do with lung issues. So I knew that something was very wrong. I had been diagnosed with Barretts esophagus a few years before so I figured I must have ruptured a blood vessel. First x-ray showed tumor and was told I had lung cancer. I went into shock. I simply could not believe it. Although I was an x smoker I had not smoked for 40 years. Lung Cancer? The first cancer docs confirmed the news and Drs Doom and Gloom had such pondering looks, and really had a demeanor unbecoming cancer specialists. PO'd me to no end.
Prior to that event though I was told I had Asthma….COPD…..chronic Bronchitis, all to justify coughing and congestion, even Pneumonia. Fatigue etc. That misdiagnosis, very typical for lung carcinoids, prevented earlier detection of the tumor(s). Perhaps surgery was possible 3 years ago or even earlier….earlier?.
Back in the 70s, I was diagnosed with labile hypertension. Monitoring of that condition produced some strange blood and urine test results which confused the Drs attending to me. I ended up in the Lahey Clinic in Boston. At that time only high-speed x-rays, primitive nuclear scans, and sonograms were available for inside viewing. Nothing could be confirmed. The search at that time was for a Pheochromocytoma, another form of NET. Equally evasive and difficult to detect.
In a U-tube interview with Dr. Wollin of Montefiore Hospital in the Bronx, Carcinoids can hide for up to 40 years. If that is true was my initial tumor hiding for over 50 years? Highly doubtful I guess, but it certainly doesn't make me feel too comfortable.
And that was the beginning of it all.
So…I am still here and I am not going anywhere…GAP

@gapsc

Greetings. I am a newbee and just joined. I have a lung carcinoid. Actually there are two with a few nodes thrown in. I was diagnosed in May 2017. They are inoperable. I am currently on lanreotide monthly. I have local MDs (Levine Cancer) and have oversight from UNC-Chapel Hill. I know a lot and know nothing at the same time. GAP

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Thanks for all of that information, @gapsc

I know so many NET patients who were misdiagnosed for many years before the real culprit of NET was acknowledged. I will be so glad when this disorder is in the forefront of oncologists' minds. With digestive tract NETs the misdiagnoses can be all over the charts and NETs are sometimes not recognized until there are METs in the liver.

You didn't mention if the monthly lanreotide is helping. I hope that it is. Do you still have a lot of coughing and/or pain? Have you ever had the 68 Gallium Scan? You can read more about this scan in one of our discussions, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/68ga-dotatate-positron-emission-tomography-pet-now-at-mayo-clinic/

I would also like to introduce you to the Carcinoid Foundation's website. Here you can find some good information and perhaps feel a little less alone. They have personal support groups in some areas of the US. https://www.carcinoid.org/resources/support-groups/directory/ I hope that this website will help answer some of your questions.

There are also several Facebook pages for support. They include the Carcinoid Coffee Cafe, Carcinoid/NET Awareness Support Group and others. You can also sign up to receive a daily emails from LISTSERV@listserv.acor.org. There are lots of NET people posting here.

Continue to share as you have questions or concerns. While I probably won't have all the answers, some of our members may have one or two answers along the way. If we don't have answers, we can certainly commensurate with you in the quandary! We have all been there a time or two.

I look forward to sharing this journey with you, so keep posting.

Teresa

@gapsc

Greetings. I am a newbee and just joined. I have a lung carcinoid. Actually there are two with a few nodes thrown in. I was diagnosed in May 2017. They are inoperable. I am currently on lanreotide monthly. I have local MDs (Levine Cancer) and have oversight from UNC-Chapel Hill. I know a lot and know nothing at the same time. GAP

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I recently discovered that Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, 1.5 miles from my house, has opened the Neuroendocrine Cancer Research & Treatment Center in the Charles A. Sammons Cancer Center. There has been zero publicity about it. This is the place where, in 2000, three doctors told me a carcinoid was not really cancer and I had nothing to worry about. A small rectal carcinoid — .4 cm — had been discovered during my first colonoscopy. It showed up again in 2010 in the same spot as the first. Luckily, the same sharp-eyed gastroenterologist spotted it and biopsied it, then I had surgery to remove it and a lot of surrounding tissue. I do not think I have any symptoms now, but I want to evaluate this team for myself and, if they pass the test, establish a relationship. I have a colonoscopy every 5 years and a flexible  sigmoidoscopy all the other years, a regimen suggested by a specialist I found in New Orleans in 2005. Every time I have diarrhea or sweat excessively or my face is red, I worry the cancer is back. I would like to feel safe, if indeed I am. My appointment is tomorrow, March 12. 

@mgreene I am so pleased to hear that Baylor has opened a NET Research/Treatment Center near you. Have you ever had a 68 Gallium Scan? See this discussion for more information about this new scan, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/68ga-dotatate-positron-emission-tomography-pet-now-at-mayo-clinic/?utm_campaign=search

If you are comfortable doing so, I would love to hear an update from that appointment.

Either way, though, I look forward to hearing from you again – as we all learn from each other.

Teresa

Hi there I am diagnosed with typical carcinoid that hssn’t Metastized the size is 1.5 , I live now in Sweden they haven’t given me any other options but loboctomy , can anyone help in this matter or suggest any alternatives as I am scheduled on the 9th of July for my operation , thanks

Hello @ghassan and welcome to Mayo Connect. I appreciate your sharing about your lung carcinoid. While carcinoids are rather rare, lung carcinoids are even more rare. I would like to introduce you to two Connect Members who have also experienced lung carcinoids, @joanney and @dzerfas. I hope that they share with you their experiences.

In the meantime, here is a link to an American Cancer Society website that discusses lung carcinoids, https://www.cancer.org/cancer/lung-carcinoid-tumor.html. Here is another article from the European Journal of of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ejcts.2010.08.036

I see that you are scheduled for surgery on July 9th. I wish you well and I look forward to hearing from you again.

Teresa

Thanks Teresa for the prompt answer , I saw the oncologist on the 18th of June to discuss the operation options I was shocked when they told that I am scheduled to be operated on , the 21st of June , which I rejected , I asked about the " Wait and Watch " option , are there any statistics to back up such option ? He gave me only one option which is lobectomy , my carcinoid is in the middle lobe of the right lung in the middle of the lobe on the bronchi , as I look at US cancer society site it shows so many other options , your help is really appreciated .

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