"The HUM", a persistent Low Frequency Noise

Posted by Soliloquized @soliloquized, Dec 28, 2019

As I sit, writing, my left ear is filled with the Classic Hum. Both my ears used to hear it, but after an ear infection in the right ear, leaving no measurable loss of hearing as determined by yearly workplace hearing tests, I no longer hear it in the right.

Certainly, others must hear it.

My wife, largely complete loss of hearing in one ear, high frequency Tinnitus in the other, and myself, excellent hearing as tested by yearly workplace physicals, started hearing the HUM on the same day, in the same location, over a decade ago. We hear it exactly the same in a number of places separated by hundreds of miles. We have experimented by asking if the other could hear the HUM, whether in certain parts of the structure we were in (home we rented in the Country, home we owned in the City) if it was louder, quieter, or audible at all, and had an extremely high degree of concurrence.

It appears to be a real world event, not Tinnitus, but IMHO, the American Medical Community is trying to pawn it off as Tinnitus. I've seen a few references to the National Institutes of Health claiming, on flimsy questionnaires sent out, that the HUM is, indeed, Tinnitus.

My wife heard it, simultaneous to me hearing it, for a decade, I still hear it, but if you mention this to doctors, they look at you like you have snakes coming out of your head. My ENT has been sick, so my appointment with him has been delayed, he's back to work but catching up. I see the ENT due to a cancerous thyroid he removed. But recently, my right ear has been acting up. It makes a spontaneous rumbling noise that I can voluntarily reproduce. But telling this to my family doctor, that I can voluntarily make this rumbling (not the HUM) and also mentioning the HUM, since I hear it in my left ear but the right ear is acting up, on both counts, I don't think he believes me, or understands. Yet, yesterday, I found an article that says that some people have voluntary control over a muscle attached to the Tympanic Membrane. That's my voluntarily induced rumbling (not HUM).

So, there are some forms of Tinnitus, "Pulsatile Tinnitus (PT) is a symptom that affects nearly five million Americans. The sensation of hearing a rhythmic noise, such as a heartbeat, swooshing or whooshing, from no external source, is, at best, a little unsettling; for many, the near constant sound exceeds annoyance and becomes completely debilitating" that can cause noises in your hearing, but decidedly is not the HUM. I'd be interested in reading what others have to say on these experiences, if you don't feel like outing yourself, you could always say a friend of yours.......

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@sueinmn

I'll trade with him! I have crickets in one ear and a high-frequency radio squeal in the other. After over 35 years I can usually ignore it unless it gets really loud .
Sue

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I have had noises like that for several decades. Most of the time I can ignore it. Hopefully down the line the cochlear implant will take care of the tinnitus - one can only hope!

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@willows

Don’t worry. You have a condition called musical ear. It’s basically one part of your brain doing something your consciousness is not wanting to be aware of but the music continuous on its own merry way without your permission or desire. Same with the the loud hum and other assorted phantom noises. The low pitched hum is a difficult sound I find because it’s hard to mask it or over ride it with other sounds. The music itself can be instrumental or voices as in a choir. Unfortunately for me the tunes repeat constantly and it gets very very boring. I can have an impact by saying to myself I will ignore this or change the tune which requires effort and doesn’t make the noise go away. Musical ear I believe is a form of tinnitus, for hich at this point science has no cure.. The good news is that you are not crazy, just ear damaged. I would suggest that you pursue the angle of accident incurred in your car accident if you have not already done so just to see whether something physical can be addressed in terms of offering relief. You should also be tested for an acoustic neuroma (tumour pressing on auditory system). You need to see an Ear, nose and throat doctor as well as an audiologist. The American Tinnitus Association is helpful. I think they have an audiologist who will answer your questions at no cost to yourself. Good luck on your journey forward looking for solutions and finding a sympathetic physician who has an “ear » for your problems.

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Thank you so much for this information. I will definitely see and ent and an audiologist and seek out as much information as I can from the American Tinnitus Association 🙂

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@billchitwood

I have had noises like that for several decades. Most of the time I can ignore it. Hopefully down the line the cochlear implant will take care of the tinnitus - one can only hope!

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Hi Julie, please let us know how you like the cochlear implant and whether it helps your tinnitus.

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@willows

Hi Julie, please let us know how you like the cochlear implant and whether it helps your tinnitus.

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At the moment the normal tinnitus that I've had for ages seems to be the same, although I have the feeling it is coming more from the HA side rather than the CI side (at least this morning). At first there were a lot of really weird sounds after the surgery in the CI side but that seems to have cleared up a lot. Now I mostly get them when the TV is on (picking up the electronic emissions?). Some of the sounds that were loud I've identified, like the freezer and refrigerator, and they seem much less than before the surgery! I could never pinpoint them before and I used to search the house to see if something was running. Bill has a habit of hitting switches like fans, and I could hear them but again not pinpoint them. Yesterday I walked into the bedroom and immediately heard the fan on in the bathroom.

So even within the two weeks of activation my life has gotten easier on hearing things. The first day of activation, driving home, I actually not only heard sirens (which I hadn't for past few years) but also picked up which direction they were coming from so managed to stay out of their way (before I would have been in the middle of the intersection before seeing the flashing lights).

I presume I'm doing as well since I have the AB implant and coordinated Phonak HA that 'talk' to each other. If I'm only using the CI sound is not as good or volume as loud. Music isn't nearly as good - can make out the words but they sound funny and no idea who is doing the singing. With both the music is pretty normal. Some voice tones are much easier to understand. I had a phone call (it streams into my ears) the other day and the caller was a telemarketer woman with a heavy accent and no way could I understand her! Men's voices are much easier. It was wonderful listening to Palacio Domingo! Sounded like always.

I've read where it can take up to a hear to get the full value from the implant and everyone goes at a different rate. I notice if I'm tired or at the end of a long day it is more 'work' hearing.

I do hope that eventually the tinnitus vanishes - but it does at least seem less at the moment.

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Male. Southeast United Kingdom. Mid 40s in age. I recently moved from one side of the town in which I live to the other, and I now hear the HUM. It comes on only at night when I am in bed trying to sleep and it is driving me almost to tears with its persistence. At first, like many others who I have read about online, I attributed it to a nearby truck idling its engine at the nearby industrial complex overnight for heating in the cab, but after reading this and other aritcles I now believe it to be the HUM. I have actually considered moving back across to the other side of town to get away from any industry in the hopes that this will help.

I lived in the San Diego, CA area for 15 years, and never heard the HUM there, but now that I am back in my home town in the UK I hear it 3-4 nights per week no matter the weather conditions. Opening the window helps as it introduces outside noises which cancel out the HUM frequency, but when it's below freezing overnight it's not practical to have the window open.

I have found articles going back as far as 1994, and other references to reports going back to the 1970s, so my question is this. Is it possible to avoid the HUM all together and escape it, or am I doomed to sleepless nights for the rest of my life no matter where I move to?

Does a cancelling frequency from a speaker such as a tablet device or mobile phone help?

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@davidnewman

Male. Southeast United Kingdom. Mid 40s in age. I recently moved from one side of the town in which I live to the other, and I now hear the HUM. It comes on only at night when I am in bed trying to sleep and it is driving me almost to tears with its persistence. At first, like many others who I have read about online, I attributed it to a nearby truck idling its engine at the nearby industrial complex overnight for heating in the cab, but after reading this and other aritcles I now believe it to be the HUM. I have actually considered moving back across to the other side of town to get away from any industry in the hopes that this will help.

I lived in the San Diego, CA area for 15 years, and never heard the HUM there, but now that I am back in my home town in the UK I hear it 3-4 nights per week no matter the weather conditions. Opening the window helps as it introduces outside noises which cancel out the HUM frequency, but when it's below freezing overnight it's not practical to have the window open.

I have found articles going back as far as 1994, and other references to reports going back to the 1970s, so my question is this. Is it possible to avoid the HUM all together and escape it, or am I doomed to sleepless nights for the rest of my life no matter where I move to?

Does a cancelling frequency from a speaker such as a tablet device or mobile phone help?

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Dave: I was about your age when the HUM started for me....very similar to what you are experiencing....I would notice it if I was taking a short nap in my bedroom and I too looked out the window thinking it was a truck or vehicle parked outside! I am not sure if you have any hearing loss but it progressively got worse for me as I aged.Now being 63 I have profound hearing loss and hear the HUM all the time. Mine gets worse with noise. When I wake up in the morning it is probably the quietest but as the day progresses it get worse. I have been to tinnitus specialists and they recommend sound therapy which I can now do through my hearing aids. I use a mix of brown noise and river streams...that seems to relax me and makes it less noticeable. Have you worked in loud environments? One thing I notice is since I have been retired the HUM reminds me of the environment I was in...I had an office above the utilities area and perceive the running motors and compressors as the HUM I hear now! Strange! I have found out that everyone experiences something a little different from person to person....hope this makes sense!
Scott

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I live in central fla. wear hearing aids. I have been hearing hum (low rumble , like motor running) for years too. I live near lots of swimming pools & suspect I hear low frequency pool pumps. once that gets triggered, tinnitus kicks in & rumble/hum continues on on well after pumps shut down. suspect it has to do with infrasound triggering tinnitus, just my theory. ent guy no help.

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further comment. I would like to know more about measuring/recording potential infrsounds in my home area. possibly someone with sound engineering expertise might answer these questions.
where can I find equipment that might record /identify infrasound ?
as I understand it, its all about the right microphone. is it possible to hook up a infrsound mike (or mikes) to a smart phone & get accurate data? Any better way to do this?
how would you go about this without breaking the bank?
I guess if this hum business is ever going to be solved, its going to take a do it yourself approach.

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I too have what I call an extension of sound. Meaning after the actual sound has been eliminated I hear it for awhile. It’s like the brain has registered the sound and doesn’t get the correct message from the ears that the sound has in actual fact stopped, so it keeps generating the sound in our consciousness. Like you I also hear a low hum that sounds like an engine running. The way I determine if there is an actual motor running that I am hearing or if it’s just in my head is to block both ears with my fingers. If I am still hearing the engine running at the same volume or louder even, then I know it’s just being self generated and that it is my tinnitus that I am hearing.

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@scottk

Dave: I was about your age when the HUM started for me....very similar to what you are experiencing....I would notice it if I was taking a short nap in my bedroom and I too looked out the window thinking it was a truck or vehicle parked outside! I am not sure if you have any hearing loss but it progressively got worse for me as I aged.Now being 63 I have profound hearing loss and hear the HUM all the time. Mine gets worse with noise. When I wake up in the morning it is probably the quietest but as the day progresses it get worse. I have been to tinnitus specialists and they recommend sound therapy which I can now do through my hearing aids. I use a mix of brown noise and river streams...that seems to relax me and makes it less noticeable. Have you worked in loud environments? One thing I notice is since I have been retired the HUM reminds me of the environment I was in...I had an office above the utilities area and perceive the running motors and compressors as the HUM I hear now! Strange! I have found out that everyone experiences something a little different from person to person....hope this makes sense!
Scott

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Scott: Thanks for replying. I got a hearing test last week and have some hearing loss in the 250Hz range, but not enough to need hearing aids yet. The hum I hear at night is down around 60Hz. I did used to work in computer datacentres with the comnstant shrieking of fans going all the time, but no longer.

I tried a brown noise program on my iPad and it is amazing. I can sleep again, so thank you very much for that recommendation.

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