teaching hospitals, research centers, that specialize in hearing loss

Posted by awilst @awilst, Mar 23, 2021

I live in central fl (orlando fl) , & have been going to VA for audiology/ hearing aids for years.
I recently have received a 2nd,(replacement pair, for 1st pair of phonaks I returned), Both the phonaks & now resounds ( new hearing aids) are not providing me with speech perception.
Is there a teaching hospital/ research center near me that has in-depth hearing research capability that might help better define & resolve my hearing defect? 2nd opinion?
The fundamental question I ask myself is , how come I can hear the audio/speech well enough from a headset/ear phones. Like tv ears, or sony am fm radio headset, but lousy using my hearing aids??? (and from hearing aid accessories). I realize hearing environment not same,
going on my 2nd second trial of hearing aids (resounds this time), audiologist seems ok, VA seems to have resources, so whats the problem.

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@julieo4

That is interesting. I don't know how to help you other than to recommend trying a different provider if the 3 audiologists you saw were all at the same facility. The assistive listening devices can work extremely well, but usually do better when paired with or connected to hearing instruments. Your situation seems quite unusual.

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just saw new audiologist at va. I am an anomaly !!!! I can perceive speech fairly well with the comfort duette. but do lousy with phonak & resound hearing aids. comfort duettes not perfect. have limited range, & wired. but/but I can hear with them. audiologist mystified. so I am getting to try another hearing aid octigons.
we will see.
my question is still, WHY CAN i HEAR WITH DUETTES, BUT NOT VERY WELL WITH HEARING AIDS?
hearing aids have air tubes & ear pieces, duettes ear buds??
could it be decibal difference??
HA attack/release speeds?
why do my eardrums like the duettes, but not hearing aids

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@awilst

just saw new audiologist at va. I am an anomaly !!!! I can perceive speech fairly well with the comfort duette. but do lousy with phonak & resound hearing aids. comfort duettes not perfect. have limited range, & wired. but/but I can hear with them. audiologist mystified. so I am getting to try another hearing aid octigons.
we will see.
my question is still, WHY CAN i HEAR WITH DUETTES, BUT NOT VERY WELL WITH HEARING AIDS?
hearing aids have air tubes & ear pieces, duettes ear buds??
could it be decibal difference??
HA attack/release speeds?
why do my eardrums like the duettes, but not hearing aids

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…what are duettes please?

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@awilst
Hi
Could you tell us what type of hearing loss you have…mild..moderate…profound? From what you have described you have tried all Behind the Ear Hearing Aids…is that true?

This is my take….the Duette is just an amplifier as you know and you have to position the ear buds just so for maximum listening. You need the sound going as close as possible into your ear canal. If my hearing aid mould is getting loose I often just push it in a little for better and louder sound. You would probably have the same result with an over the counter hearing aid type of amplifier . But these could damage your hearing.

This is telling me you may do better with a receiver in the ear type of hearing aid or even an entirely in the ear type of aid. I would try them even if your audiologists don’t think your level of hearing loss would qualify for a less powerful device. Phonaks are powerful…I wear 2 BTEs. Be a little persistent on trying this type as you have nothing to lose at this point.

As for the earbuds, the only way I can hear out of my right ear when I connect earbuds to my phone is if I really push the bud on and hold it. I have profound loss.

I remember the old analog hearing aids and how loud and crisp they sounded. If they were still around (and maybe they are) I would love to try it just for fun.

Let us know your next step and I know it is frustrating…and you don’t fit the audiologist’s profile. I think you have tried enough aids and had enough tweaking at this point.

FL Mary

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@imallears

@awilst
Hi
Could you tell us what type of hearing loss you have…mild..moderate…profound? From what you have described you have tried all Behind the Ear Hearing Aids…is that true?

This is my take….the Duette is just an amplifier as you know and you have to position the ear buds just so for maximum listening. You need the sound going as close as possible into your ear canal. If my hearing aid mould is getting loose I often just push it in a little for better and louder sound. You would probably have the same result with an over the counter hearing aid type of amplifier . But these could damage your hearing.

This is telling me you may do better with a receiver in the ear type of hearing aid or even an entirely in the ear type of aid. I would try them even if your audiologists don’t think your level of hearing loss would qualify for a less powerful device. Phonaks are powerful…I wear 2 BTEs. Be a little persistent on trying this type as you have nothing to lose at this point.

As for the earbuds, the only way I can hear out of my right ear when I connect earbuds to my phone is if I really push the bud on and hold it. I have profound loss.

I remember the old analog hearing aids and how loud and crisp they sounded. If they were still around (and maybe they are) I would love to try it just for fun.

Let us know your next step and I know it is frustrating…and you don’t fit the audiologist’s profile. I think you have tried enough aids and had enough tweaking at this point.

FL Mary

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last I checked , I have severe loss. Yes , the HA are behind the ear. yes , sometimes I have to play with the buds to get decent sound. BUT, I do get the sound & perceive speech. lot better then HAs.
audiologists say , I should think about implant.
but I can hear with duette.
go figure?

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somewhere on this web site I think I posted my audiogram. mabe on separate discussion.

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@awilst

just saw new audiologist at va. I am an anomaly !!!! I can perceive speech fairly well with the comfort duette. but do lousy with phonak & resound hearing aids. comfort duettes not perfect. have limited range, & wired. but/but I can hear with them. audiologist mystified. so I am getting to try another hearing aid octigons.
we will see.
my question is still, WHY CAN i HEAR WITH DUETTES, BUT NOT VERY WELL WITH HEARING AIDS?
hearing aids have air tubes & ear pieces, duettes ear buds??
could it be decibal difference??
HA attack/release speeds?
why do my eardrums like the duettes, but not hearing aids

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Would you please tell me what Duettes are?
Thankyou.
Ainsleigh

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@ainsleigh

Would you please tell me what Duettes are?
Thankyou.
Ainsleigh

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Ainsleigh, I believe that @awilst is referring to hearing amplifiers. The product is called Comfort Duett. It's a small rechargeable hearing amplifier designed to improve communication in difficult listening situations. At least that's what the website claims:
https://www.oaktreeproducts.com/comfort-duett-with-headphones-earbuds-f00654

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@awilst

last I checked , I have severe loss. Yes , the HA are behind the ear. yes , sometimes I have to play with the buds to get decent sound. BUT, I do get the sound & perceive speech. lot better then HAs.
audiologists say , I should think about implant.
but I can hear with duette.
go figure?

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@awilst
Without knowing the exact model of Phonak you are wearing it sounds like the ear mould may be at fault. I am assuming you had custom ear moulds made. If so, are they vented? I could never hear properly with a vented ear mould.

My moulds are soft silicone and have to fit snugly so there is no leakage of sound. Acrylic ear moulds are more prone to acoustic leakage. Silicone ear moulds work best for high gain aids like the Phonaks. When I had the moulds made my Audi instructed the maker to extend the end as far into the ear canal as possible.

Proper fitting ear moulds are crucial for optimum hearing and so often the first go around in fitting is not a good fit. Something to think about and maybe run by your Audi.

FL Mary

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@imallears

@awilst
Without knowing the exact model of Phonak you are wearing it sounds like the ear mould may be at fault. I am assuming you had custom ear moulds made. If so, are they vented? I could never hear properly with a vented ear mould.

My moulds are soft silicone and have to fit snugly so there is no leakage of sound. Acrylic ear moulds are more prone to acoustic leakage. Silicone ear moulds work best for high gain aids like the Phonaks. When I had the moulds made my Audi instructed the maker to extend the end as far into the ear canal as possible.

Proper fitting ear moulds are crucial for optimum hearing and so often the first go around in fitting is not a good fit. Something to think about and maybe run by your Audi.

FL Mary

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Hello, Mary. I have an appt in a couple of weeks with the hearing aid person at Mayo. I need help in both ears, apparently not really bad, but worsening the last several months quite a bit. And, enough I'm having trouble, conversations are the pits and forget it re background noise.

I've been reading and learning from you experts on the hearting site and feel far less ignorant, probably just enough to be dangerous…..but, I don know I don' t know anything….so, the mold info is good. tks. I'll keep reading and learning.

I hope to go through the process with the Mayo folks because I'm familiar and comfortable there and I do trust them a lot. We'll see. This is a huge, huge step, as you certainly know. But, it's gotten to the point I want to hear and understand, so it's time to swallow my pride and all the other negative emotions and save pennies and go ahead.
Wish me well!
Blessings, elizabeth (N. Fl)

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