Summary of Mayo Consult (PSA Recurrence, PSMA-Negative)

Posted by dhasper @dhasper, 3 hours ago

Summary of Mayo Consult (PSA Recurrence, PSMA-Negative)

I had my consult at Mayo following a rising PSA (now 0.24) after prostatectomy. My PSMA scan was essentially negative, with one very small indeterminate pelvic node that their team ultimately felt was unlikely to represent cancer.

Because of the negative imaging, I was offered participation in a clinical trial comparing immediate salvage treatment vs PSMA-guided observation. The observation arm involves close PSA monitoring and repeat imaging, with treatment triggered if/when disease becomes more clearly detectable.

The rationale they explained is that older studies supporting early salvage radiation were done before PSMA imaging, and may have included patients with more advanced disease than we can detect today. The trial is designed to see whether some patients can safely delay or avoid treatment without compromising outcomes.

We had a very balanced discussion of risks:

Immediate treatment (standard approach): reduces risk of progression/metastasis but carries known side effects from radiation and short-term ADT.
Observation (trial approach): may avoid or delay treatment and its side effects, but carries uncertainty about timing and potential disease progression.

They were clear that both approaches are reasonable, and the decision comes down to individual risk tolerance.

My decision:
I chose to proceed with standard treatment — radiation to the prostate bed and pelvic lymph nodes with ~4 months of ADT. My reasoning was that, given my pathology (cribriform/IDC features, LVI, early recurrence), I am more likely to need treatment eventually, and I prefer to treat early rather than accept the uncertainty of delaying.

The trial made sense to me and I think it will be important in answering a real question in the field — it just wasn’t the risk profile I wanted for myself.

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With the aggressive issues, you have getting salvage radiation and going on ADT sound very reasonable. The question is, is four months of ADT enough. NCCN almost never recommends less than six months.

Was your Gleeson score 3+4 or 4+3? I know if higher, they would usually recommend at least 12 months of ADT.

There is a real issue with the combination of cribriform and intraductal. There doesn’t seem to be any treatment that handles both of them with complete success. They almost always end up with BCR, Which is where you are now. If you had Small cribriform Then it’s a lot more successfully treated than large cribriform. Did you find out from the doctors after biopsy which you had?

Sounds like you’re going to the right place, Hopefully things work out well for you.

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With the aggressive issues, you have getting salvage radiation and going on ADT sound very reasonable. The question is, is four months of ADT enough. NCCN almost never recommends less than six months.

Was your Gleeson score 3+4 or 4+3? I know if higher, they would usually recommend at least 12 months of ADT.

There is a real issue with the combination of cribriform and intraductal. There doesn’t seem to be any treatment that handles both of them with complete success. They almost always end up with BCR, Which is where you are now. If you had Small cribriform Then it’s a lot more successfully treated than large cribriform. Did you find out from the doctors after biopsy which you had?

Sounds like you’re going to the right place, Hopefully things work out well for you.

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@jeffmarc I did wonder about the length of ADT and I reserved that as an issue for another day.. I will check on my cribiform size. Thanks for your comments.

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@jeffmarc I did wonder about the length of ADT and I reserved that as an issue for another day.. I will check on my cribiform size. Thanks for your comments.

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@dhasper Jeff...4 plus 3

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