Sleep Study

Posted by 4aces4me @4aces4me, 5 days ago

Another sleep study after walking out of first study 30 days ago. Went back to same facility due to insurance. Still most miserable night I’ve ever had in my life. Absolute torture. I did sleep quite a bit and awake from time to time as well. Interesting episode though sometime after falling asleep. I was feeling a twinge in all the sensors on my head and face. Like a very mild shock, buzz. Dreaming as well and I was trying to call out to Chace the person who hooked me up. I Could Not Speak. I was calling his name and no sound. Probably seconds, not minutes like it seemed. Then the buzzing, vibrating feeling all over my head and face went away. I woke up. Frankly wondered if I had a TIA or mini stroke. It was weird. Went off to sleep and when I woke up again, I spoke out just to see if I had my voice back which I did. I’ll talk to the P.A. this morning about it. Results: He said I “had a little sleep apnea about 11 interruptions a minute and that I’d have to come back for a second sleep study (I believe this one is to hook me up to a C-Pap and let me sleep with it there. The facility in our small town is so disgusting. Reminiscent of a $20 hotel room in the early 70s. Bed must be 15 years old. This procedure to me is the strangest way to test for apnea. I know from snoring studies that the discomfort alone can cause high snore scores. It’s bound to create apnea of some kind.

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Correction _ “11 interruptions per hour” not “minutes”. Sorry for the error.

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@drwass2

11 episodes a minute is insane.
Probably 11 an hour.
I’ve had 4 complete sleep studies in a clinic. All had nice rooms and done very professionally. Of course who can sleep in a strange bed, hook up to wires etc. anyway, my guy came in to the room within the first hour and said I had severe sleep apnea and put on a mask and attempted to Titrate me. Never could. They ordered a bipap which I used for 6 months with no improvement. A few clinics in between , it a long story. 4th sleep clinic was to titrate me and see if an ASV machine would work.
It did but the pressures are at the limit 15 up to 24. Hard to stop leaks unless mask is super tight. I’m playing with changing the setting myself.
Also doing my own O2 measurements with an O2 ring since they never even check this once they send you home.
I’ve got two doctors working on this, one a a university teaching hospital. Episodes are low now Generally around 5 and hour vs 20-30 before treatment and even with BiPap. So better but not happy with out a real diagnosis. Tx seems to be “try this”. If it doesn’t work “try that” etc.

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You are correct. It was 11 interruptions per hour. My mistake. Thank you.

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I don’t think it’s a grab for dollars! We do have a serious problem. Before any treatments BiPap or other, my O2 at night would drop below 90 for 30 minutes and even low 80’s and below 80 for 10 minutes at a time. I’m probably losing brain cells. How many years has this been going on. If it wasn’t for my own curiosity and my purchasing the O2 ring, no one would know! Looking back at least 20 years, every time I was in the hospital for various procedures, the O2 alarm would go off. No one investigated it. I would just breathe a bunch and make it reset. I always felt the gadgets did not work so good on me. Even tried to investigate what could make them not read so good on me!
As you guys should know, most apneas, are obstructive.(98%).
Mine is central, where the brain just stops breathing, untill one of the many back up systems in the body kicks in.
There are two high tech ways of dealing with sleep apnea besides strapping a compressor on your face!
For Obstructive it is Inspire which is a surgical implant like a pacemaker that stimulates muscles to open up your airway when it detects your not getting air.
For Central, it Remede which is also an implant which stimulate your diagram to breath.
The problem is just getting doctors to treat the patient at reasonable price and not only what insurance will pay for!
Many obstructive pt do very will with a dental appliance like a night guard but is specifically designed to move jaw forward!
This opens the airways as anyone who took a CPR course knows.
Too bad the CPAP is considered the GOLD standard. Many never get to accept and stop using CPAP.
I believe that a dental device should be the first thing to try before strapping a mask on to attempt to treat obstructive sleep apnea.
I think we all should buy an O2 ring and get real data as to what is happening. Once they send you home with a machine, all they (the doctors) know is how many events and what type they are. No feedback on O2!
Of course they get all
Kinds of data during the sleep study.
Time to stop 🛑. I’ve babbled enough.

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@4aces4me

Really what bothers me about this science and it appears to be “experimental” in nature. The principal of blowing air into your lungs, although effective for many, seems caveman medicine. In 2025 with all technology, science for a solution to this problem should be more advanced. It appears to be one of the many grabs for dollars that exist in medicine today. I know I’m dreaming (no pun intended).

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I too worry about spending a third of my life(8hrs) breathing air from a machine that nobody ever opens up and looks at! Who knows what’s in there?
I agree it’s a money grab. Yes, we have a serious problem but I think it’s being exploited.

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@4aces4me

Really what bothers me about this science and it appears to be “experimental” in nature. The principal of blowing air into your lungs, although effective for many, seems caveman medicine. In 2025 with all technology, science for a solution to this problem should be more advanced. It appears to be one of the many grabs for dollars that exist in medicine today. I know I’m dreaming (no pun intended).

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The CPAP doesn't blow air into your lungs; it keeps your airways open so you can breathe on your own.

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