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Sharing about Depression

Posted by @afternoonnapper1 in Mental Health, Aug 8, 2011

These diseases, and others, need not live in darkness. It is through exposing them that we take away some of their power, through sharing that we find like souls, and through difficult, sometimes painful work that we begin to heal and make peace.

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honeybee6636

Posted by @honeybee6636, Aug 9, 2011

I feel like such a failure suffering with depression. I just want to remember what its like to be happy. I feel hopeless and sad and I know that I shouldnt feel this way. I want to try an anti depressent but I never hear anything good about them. Does anyone have any happy endings to share?

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friend1

Posted by @friend1, Aug 13, 2011

I am also very reluctant to use drugs and have avoided them as much as possible. It seems like a slippery slope to me. However, I wonder if I am just suffering needlessly. Have you investigated any more "natural" remedies?
I am a very disciplined person, so I keep working, doing errands, etc etc but I feel like a robot... I am surrounded by natural beauty, opportunity.. and I feel disconnected. Sound familiar?

tkv

Posted by @tkv, Aug 22, 2011

Y

Posted by Anonymous-ea052f99, Aug 22, 2011

I can relate to whatyou r feeling and was leary of taking something. But I havey been on paxil for about 8 months now and i know it has helped. Not a fix your life but more help u cope, with control. As far as side effects, I can't tell any. But I only read them once, I figured my body would let me know and I do feel better, its ok and worth taking.

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livedriftwood

Posted by @livedriftwood, Aug 24, 2011

from livedriftwood. Yes paxil is a good choise. I was on it for 15 years. then it just stoped working. Doctors say sometimes your body or brain just changes and its still a mystery as to why that is. So I had to go into the hospital again last year and they put me on Pristiq. It was great. But after a year it just stoped working. Now im back on Paxil. what a roller coster

jw2

Posted by @jw2, Oct 5, 2011

jw2
I was taking paxl for about 16 years and it stopped working for me too. After being off paxil and then starting it again does it work? I am on Cymbalta and It isn't doing me much good.

Posted by Anonymous-c5149672, Aug 23, 2011

Why do you believe "natural" remedies aren't also drugs? Herbal treatments have side effects, just like traditional drugs, so what's stopping you from trying medications that have been proven to help depression? You shouldn't suffer needlessly, so go discuss your options with a doctor. And then, whether you choose herbals or prescription medications, at least you'll be doing something to help you feel better. After all, living with pain isn't really living...

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livedriftwood

Posted by @livedriftwood, Aug 24, 2011

livedriftwood, I have live with depression as far back as age16. Im now 58. I tryed every kind of stinkn medicine out there. Yes, I feel angry at times and have attemped to end my life more than I can count. I back on Paxil Brand name, Depakote ER, for now. As some of you may have just read in my last letter, things were bad. and I wanted to give up. Well I was able to talk to a couple of Social workers that I decided to open up to. They said you need to go inpatient and get stabilized. I tell u the truth, I have been inpatient 2 times this year. Im realy trying hard to be strong and set an apt. with my Doc. to maybe ajust meds. I wish to God I didnt have to take any Meds. I tryed to go off them this year for one month because I wanted to prove I didnt need them. Also when a person is on Meds. for so many years it can do irreversable changes in your brain. I havnt research that yet to the full extent, but for now there is no holistiic remedy that is safe to take that I know of. I do know that the inviroment which we live in everyday has a big impact on our mental health. Im dong better today. I took a walk at 5 am. I was just laying in bed for the last 2 weeks in major depression crying and wanting to end it all. I quess your prayers worked, Thank you, I trying ,Love you all

hopeful

Posted by @hopeful, Aug 24, 2011

If you stopped taking your medication to "prove that (you) didn't need them," and now you're not feeling well, I hope you can see how important it is to take them faithfully, each and every day. Why does it bother you so much to have to be on medication? I have been on anti-depressant medication for 15 years now and there have been no long-term ill effects - quite the contrary! Without them, I don't think I would be able to cope.

Being on anti-depressants will *NOT* cause "irreversible changes in the brain." I don't know where you could have gotten such an idea! I simply cannot understand why some people who are suffering from depression and are in such pain continue to believe that their medication is harming them! You are doing much more harm to yourself by *NOT* taking your medication!

Listen to those social workers; get yourself stabilized in the hospital and take the medication they give you! Then, when you're feeling better, go to your doctor and discuss your fears with him. The doctor is there to help , not hurt! He may suggest that you talk to a psychologist, which may also be beneficial in allaying your fears about anti-depressant medication.

If you can feel better simply by taking your medication everyday and following your doctor's instructions, why wouldn't you want to do it?

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birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

Well, how about the news about people taking these antidepressents and their babies are born deformed? If that happens to babies, just think how it can affect us?! That is scary.

birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

Yeh, I am even afraid to try the alternatives...because I know they wil have their effect on the brain and nervous system. And regular doctors just don't give me any advice about them....hard to know what to take and how much??

livedriftwood

Posted by @livedriftwood, Aug 24, 2011

To Friend, from Livedriftwood. have you had a complete medical and psycological exam. It should be done by a Medical Doctor and a Psychatrist, and a full range of testing should be done to see if you have any long term disorders

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birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

Totally, just like me too.

hopeful

Posted by @hopeful, Aug 22, 2011

I was diagnosed with depression in 1997 and without medication, I doulbt if I would still be here. Medication is an *absolute* necessity if you are depressed and wish to recover. I am constantly amazed by depressed people who complain about their symptoms, yet refuse to take any medication. Depression will NOT resolve on its own, so how else can one expect to recover? People who are so reluctant to take medication also seem so willing to take "alternative" therapies, not realizing this is also a type of medication. Perhaps it is simply their illness that makes them think medications are somehow harmful when they're not. -the key is finding the *right* medication for you. I had to try several types before I got relief and even now, I still have to change medications every 5 to 7 years because they can stop being effective. But this doesn't mean you shouldn't try them. Also, all horror stories about depression medications are the result of a patient stopping treatment *cold turkey*. You must be slowly "weaned off" these types of medication or you will suffer complications. Depression is a TERRIBLE illness, but you CAN feel better if you follow your doctor's recommendations and faithfully TAKE YOUR MEDICATION. Try it, what do you have to loose? Except perhaps your depression...

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Posted by Anonymous-3ef9a410, Aug 22, 2011

What would happen if patients with diabetes decided to quit their meds? To me it's about the same thing...the body is not producing the correct chemical (insulin or serotonin. So why are people reluctant to accept the medications offered for depression?

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sreynolds

Posted by @sreynolds, Aug 22, 2011

Medication is not an "absolute necessity" for people who are depressed although the drug ads might make people think that is the case. The recent SMART studies show that medication only works for 1/3 of the people and for minor to moderate depression meta-analysis shows that it is no better then placebo (which is because placebo has a very robust response).

Many forms of counseling such as Cognitive Behavior Therapy are just as effective without the side effects of medication and in severe cases should always be included in the treatment plan (vs medication alone) .. in some cases a RX can be life saving but treatment should always take the patients personal preferences and values into account,

In terms of alternative medicines and treatment options for mild to moderate depression exercise and physical activity (walking) is actually effective and is even listed on the Mayo site

hopeful

Posted by @hopeful, Aug 23, 2011

Mild depression may not need medication, but I doubt most people who post here only have a "mild" case of depression. Most people with Major Depressive Disorder will not find relief from"exercise and physical activity" alone and anything that can be treated with something as simple as "walking" should be discussed in a separate thread. Most people who come to this type of message board are looking for support because their condition is causing them unimaginable pain and they are trying every way they can think of to help alleviate it.

For anyone who has been diagnozed with severe depression, medication *is* an absolute necessity and to believe otherwise is to simply delude oneself. It has nothing to do with "drug ads" and to post that medication isn't necessary on a site like this is sheer irresponsibility. A person doesn't know if medication is effective for them until they try it. If, as you say, it shouldn't work for them, then alternatives may be considered, but medication should always be included in an initial treatment.

Yes, therapy is helpful if it is in *addition to medication*. And yes, a person has a right to refuse medication, but if they do, they cannot expect to find relief. The analogy someone posted about diabetes is excellent - it's like a diabetic refusing to take their insulin. Or refusing to take an antibiotic if you have an infection. People should stop listening to foolish advice they find on the web and listen to trained medical professionals instead. Doctors aren't just about money, no matter what you read on the internet.

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birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

But some of us live alone, and if I get a bad reaction, I can't handle the anxiety that it can produce. 🙁

honeybee6636

Posted by @honeybee6636, Aug 24, 2011

HI Hopeful, I appreciate your thoughts.....the problem for me is that I have suffered with depression for as long as I can remember. My husband was dealing with a short term depression due to circumstances and he was put on anti depressents and he killed himself 2 months later. He was not a person that would ever do anything like that. Well liked by so many people, a leader at work, a strong person who was always into working out, eating right.........that scares me to know that those medications did something to his thinking. 🙁

hopeful

Posted by @hopeful, Aug 24, 2011

Oh Honeybee, I'm so sorry for your loss! Anytime someone leaves this earth, we are all diminished by their passing. But I don't think the medication did anything to your husband's thinking - 2 months really isn't enough time for any medication to help! And depression medication doesn't alter your brain or thought patterns, it simply allows the seratonin your body naturally manufactures to work better. Go read about the causes of depression here on the Mayo Clinic site; they have correct, scientific explanations. There is so much mis-information on the internet, you really shouldn't believe anything you read there unless it's from a credible site like this one. And if you're suffering from depression as well, go see your doctor - I can't stress that strongly enough! Getting help is the first step towards recovery. And be sure to dicuss your concerns about depression medication with your doctor. Together, I'm sure you will find something you can be comfortable with. Good luck! XOXOX

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Posted by @2, Aug 30, 2011

Also depressed & feel the same way about meds. Checking out support groups through NAMI was suggestion given to me in another discussion.

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jw2

Posted by @jw2, Oct 5, 2011

Hi Honeybee6636. I have suffered depression all my life off and on. I took Paxil for about 16 years and it was wonderful. One day not so long ago my Paxil quit working. I went into a severe depression, the worse one i have ever had. I thought I was doomed. I went to several doctors and they all seemed like I was a bother to them. To make a longer story shorter, I found a psychiatrist who is helping me. I am on Cymbalta and at first it worked, but now I am depressed again. I have no idea why I am depressed. I am going back to my doctor and see if I can go back on Paxil. Don't be affraid to try the antidepressants. Paxil really did help me. I also take Xanax but only when I feel a little sad. I suffer anxiety also and that I can work with. I was begining to not want to leave my house but I worked through it.

I also purchased a set of CDs from Midwest Center for Stress and Anxiety. They are wonderful tapes to listen to. You can also call them and a counselor will talk to you.

Please don't be scared to try some medication. I led a wonderful life while I was taking my Paxil. I want to start taking it again, so I am going to talk to my dr. about it. The Cymbalta just isn't working..

You hang in there and get started with meds if your dr. wants to try you on them. They do take a while to get into your system so be patient. Good Luck

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honeybee6636

Posted by @honeybee6636, Oct 17, 2011

Thank you for the words of encouragement JW2. I was given the set from the Midwest center, they had a lot of good things to say and offer I wish I could just go somewhere and get that type of intense help in person, give me like a few weeks! I am suffering severely right now with depression, it just seems really heavy right now, not sure if its due to feeling such guilt over my husband's suicide in March of this year. Its hurting me to see my kids hurt too.....I am trying to take college classes after being out of school for 25 years, I need to get a job that is going to support me, but I also have fibromaylgia something I have had for almost 18 years. This is why I didn't work, I just cant handle the stress. I want to work! But I think the fibro has settled in my back or something because that is the source of my pain, along with all my aching muscles. I just started a new medication called Savella, I have a hard time taking meds just because I worry about what they are doing to my body. I take Zanax as well, and it helps me. I have heard to many horror stories about antidepressants... like you said you try something and it works for a while then it seems the body gets used to it and you have to either go up in dose or switch, then start all over with side effects. I know it does affect the brain, I see how it affects me. And I know it effected my husbands brain. That is why they have warnings on the medications.
I want to be happy, and joyful.......I want to succeed in life..........things just seem so heavy. And I am tired.

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birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

Have you tried to apply for social security disability?

gdnovey

Posted by @gdnovey, Aug 6, 2012

I've suffered from depression since college and now I'm 31. I've been able to manage my depression with medication. I once thought that I didn't need medication, that I could fix it on my own but that wasn't the case for me. Acceptance was hard for me and looking at what I was putting my wife through wasn't acceptable. Through her support I was able to go see a doctor and get my depression under control. I'm so much happier now than I ever was.

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birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

You are so lucky you have a wife who is supportive of you. Some of us don't have anyone close to support us, so I wish you the best !

birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

So true, honeybee....that is how I feel exactly. We need to hear from the brave souls who have had good experiences by these. 🙂

kramer

Posted by @kramer, Oct 22, 2012

I get depressed a lot and sometimes I don't get why I do maybe its the change of the seasons I don't know I usually get really bad for about and week and I will snap out of it so there is hope for all of us out there

dag1960

Posted by @dag1960, Aug 17, 2011

I have been struggling with depression for the past three years so I can empathize with your issues. My doctor (ob) put me on cymbalta - one for the depression and also because i have cervical degenerative disc disease. I cannot tell that the cymbalta helps with either issue, however, when i try to stop taking it i suffer from withdrawals. Mainly, and this may sound crazy, there is a shocking sensation in my head....my doctor doesnt seem to believe me but i have read where others suffer the same symptoms. This is the only anti-depressant i have tried but would be very reluctant to try another and would love to stop taking the cymbalta!!! I really wonder if the medicines are help or hinder to our depression issues???

doe

Posted by @doe, Aug 21, 2011

I've read online about Cymbalta, and the withdrawels when you stop taking it. It is horrible what the people went through! I'm so glad I researched first, because my doctor had given me some samples to try. That would be the last one I would take! Although I am considering Zoloft, as my niece takes it and it has worked for her. I have to get something, as I have been battling depression as well. There has to be something better than cymbalta. One person said on the tv commercial, it should say cymbalta kills!

Posted by Anonymous-c5149672, Aug 23, 2011

People only suffer withdrawal symptoms when they stop taking Cymbalta (or any other prescription depression medication) without following the recommended gradual reduction schedule. I had to change medications a few years ago from Prozac to Effexor and it took 6 weeks before I was completely off one medication and on the other. I had to take both at the same time, but first I skipped Prozac every other day, then every two days, then I only took Prozac twice a week, then once a week, etc. And all the while, I took the new medication. I didn't have a single side effect or bad experience, so people who do simply aren't following instructions. So don't believe everything you read on the internet!

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birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

I tried Zoloft for two days....headache, and weird thoughts that kept me awake at night, therefore I quit! I've tried Paxil too, but that was too weird for me too. I about ready to try Prozac, (10ml) but I am still too afraid to try that too. 🙁 I am extremely sensitive to drugs, personally, terrified about them. What to do....

birdlynn

Posted by @birdlynn, Sep 5, 2012

Shocking sensation in your head? Oh, that would do me in. No thanks. You can sure try something else! 🙂

remlisae

Posted by @remlisae, Oct 22, 2012

I can't believe I found a group of people they may understand me. I have struggled with mdd recurrent severe treatment resistant for over 20 years of my life. I have tried evey med combination, ECT's--too many to count, years of therapy and yet my brain continues to suffocate my life. I am currently undergoing another medication change after abilify stopped working and latuda made me feel worse. I see the dr tomorrow and I know he wants to put me in the hospital to do a med wash but I can't leave my 2 young boys--I am a single mother. I feel like I am suffocating in this blackness, that I am a shell of who I used to be years and years ago. I hate myself and think about suicide often. I just want the pain to end. Please somebody who understands this despair share anything with me. I have no support groups where I live so this is it.

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