Results of post radiation teeth extraction, implants and HBOT
In February of 2024 I had my right tonsil, that was enlarged, removed, biopsy came back as HPV16, I underwent 33 rounds of radiation at 66Gy. Now after being 1 year and 8 months post radiation I have teeth that are cracking, root canals that are failing and decay at the gum line of crowns; not placing all the blame on radiation as I don’t have the best teeth even though I always go to the dentist and do all my cleanings…at any rate my dentist wants me to extract 6 teeth and do 3-4 implants. I was referred to an oral surgeon who wants me to do 30 hyperbaric oxygen treatments, 20 before extraction and 10 after extraction. My oncologist agrees with this, even though some teeth are not on the radiated side of my mouth. Insurance will not cover in full the HBOT (hyperbaric oxygen treatment) as they are not in network. This is a huge monetary investment; HBOT, extractions and implants. My question - is anyone else dealing with this currently, been through it previously and having success in implants withstanding the test of time post radiation? I have also been diagnosed with osteoporosis in the last 3 months. I am not inclined to treat medically with osteoporosis medication at this time, but many are very hard on the bones of the jaw. I’m really struggling with losing these teeth as they are all molars and I won’t be able to chew on either side because of lack of teeth. (We’ve all been through the difficulty of eating during radiation and I’m not excited to go there again albeit in a different scenario). I’ve inquired about only extracting a few now and doing others later but my oncologists says I would need to the HBOT again. I would love to hear from anyone who has had long term success or failure with implants post radiation. Thanks in advance!
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@omaest thanks for sharing your story! Every person and their journey is unique to them, my heart breaks for all those who struggle with the side effects both at the time of their cancer treatment and years after. I think it’s important for all of us to know that the possibility that we will see problems arise from our treatment many years after is frightening, but knowing others have dealt with issues and they overcame them gives us all hope and knowledge moving forward. Best of luck!
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2 ReactionsHi @pauley thank you for sharing your story. It really hit me hard. I too have a dentist who I feel does not/did not understand the ramifications of pulling teeth after radiation. I really liked my oncologist however I felt like he brushed over the whole radiation and teeth issues from the beginning as I had no idea all this could happen when I began radiation. It would be nice if a dentist had to sign off to your oncologist that at the time all is well in your mouth. My oncologist just said I should see my dentist before I started radiation, which I did.
I had a dental cleaning right after completing radiation and my dentist was aware I had been through radiation. That being said a year after completing radiation I had a lower molar giving me problems she told me it needed to be pulled, so she pulled it. I saw my new oncologist just a few days after extraction (at the same practice, as my first oncologist had left) he was livid that he was not included in the decision to pull the tooth. I asked why and he told me about the possibility of it not healing and developing ORN. I asked what happened if it didn’t heal and he told me it would start with HBOT. Luckily for me it healed just fine. So now a year later I’m dealing with several other teeth my dentist says need to be removed. She sent me to the oral surgeon this time.
I am so very sorry this happened to you. It’s so discouraging to know that our medical insurance will not cover all that could and does happen to our teeth and jaw bone after radiation. I truly wish you had known about the possibility of HBOT, perhaps it could have changed your path and saved you a lot of pain and suffering. I’ve been researching HBOT and I’m hopeful that it will help to prevent any tissue or bone damage from the trauma of extracting teeth, my oral surgeon and my oncologist are strongly encouraging it. So please know that your journey lets me know that I do have to try it, so thank you for that. I wish you all the best! Take care and please let me know how it goes after getting your prosthetic teeth.
For anyone reading this HBOT dives in my area are $4500 for 30 dives, this is through a facility not linked to a hospital or wound care center.
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2 Reactions@lanig Your story about oncologists not taking teeth issues too serious and dentists not responding well either, very common it seems. Many oncologists have limited experience if any with head and neck cancers, particularly as it pertains to mandible and teeth issues as I have observed. My oncologist, well respected and highly experienced, yet it turns out I was his first head and neck patient. When I ask patients to ask their oncologist about specific experience in head and neck, often a referral is then considered.
Dentists as well can vary. I am fortunate now to have a dentist with other experience in radiation damage as well as a keen curiosity in learning any and all he can about cancer treatment damage as it relates to dental issues.
I don't blame the dental community nor the oncologist of the world. Head and neck cancers, while common on these pages, is still a rather rare malady. Ask your personal physician how many head and neck cancer patients he/she has had over the years. Likely you are the only one. How many cancer patients inclusive? Usually less than one per year.
In our world cancer is prevalent. But in the general population, we are rather unique. Your dentist has learned from your experience, particularly if you share what you can with the dentist and dental team. Your oncologist likely learned a great deal from your treatments, which although it didn't do you much good, certainly will improve the treatments of others in the future. We can be upset. We can be angry. I certainly was. Or we can chose to help out by working not only with patients but with our healthcare team as well. We are doing that here on these discussions. You are helping others by your experience to which we are all enlightened.
I wish you well my friend. Good healing. W
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3 Reactions@hrhwilliam
Well said sir. Sometimes I feel like we're on the island of mis-fit toys. LOL This forum has been a blessing to me. My prayer is that maybe 1 day, my post will be a blessing to someone else.
God bless us all, keep praying, keep fighting, keep healing and let's live our lives to the fullest. No matter our circumstances.
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4 Reactions@jw9 I’m so sorry I thought i replied to you but it didn’t post. Thank you for sharing your journey, 34 is so very young. Yes the HBOT is more of a preventive measure as I do not currently have ORN. It is supposed to stimulate red blood cells in the tissue and bones to help with healing as per my oral surgeon.
I did join the Osteoporosis and bone health group here at the Mayo Clinic. Lots of good information. Appreciate your response, take care!
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1 Reaction@lanig I think that happens to all of us at some time! There's times when discussions move fast and it's impossible to keep up. It was good to hear from you. Thanks!
Sorry you’re dealing with this now!
My team insisted my crowns and wisdom’s were extracted prior to beginning treatments 🤷♂️