Regular CT vs HRCT

Posted by cwal @cwal, Nov 6, 2023

Perhaps someone knows an answer to this. I recently had a High Resolution chest CT on which the radiologist reported "no tree in bud" changes associated with MAC. All my previous CT scans were "regular" CT scans and reported tree in bud changes. Why would it show on a "regular " CT but not a HRCT?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

@cwal The radiologist typically compares each scan to the most recent previous one. So perhaps your MAC and whatever else is in your lungs is stable for now. If so that is very good news.

What does the doctor say? Remember that the radiologist only has the scans to evaluate. The doctor has your whole history.
Sue

REPLY
@sueinmn

@cwal The radiologist typically compares each scan to the most recent previous one. So perhaps your MAC and whatever else is in your lungs is stable for now. If so that is very good news.

What does the doctor say? Remember that the radiologist only has the scans to evaluate. The doctor has your whole history.
Sue

Jump to this post

Thank you Sue.
Yes, the Radiologist had the previous "regular" CT to compare to. I just don't understand how it would show on the Regular CT but the HRCT, which as I understand gives a higher quality image, did not show it? Can tree in bud "disappear"?

I have not seen my doctor yet since the scan but she tends to blow me off anyway so I try not to ask her much.

REPLY
@cwal

Thank you Sue.
Yes, the Radiologist had the previous "regular" CT to compare to. I just don't understand how it would show on the Regular CT but the HRCT, which as I understand gives a higher quality image, did not show it? Can tree in bud "disappear"?

I have not seen my doctor yet since the scan but she tends to blow me off anyway so I try not to ask her much.

Jump to this post

Maybe your are misinterpreting? I read "No tree in bud changes" [when compared to the previous scan] not "No tree in bud" [exists]. I would say that means nothing changed and it looks the same as before. What do you think?
Sue

REPLY
@sueinmn

Maybe your are misinterpreting? I read "No tree in bud changes" [when compared to the previous scan] not "No tree in bud" [exists]. I would say that means nothing changed and it looks the same as before. What do you think?
Sue

Jump to this post

Maybe? Here is the direct quote- ....."No characteristically tree in bud pattern to suggest mycobacterial infection"
It is a confusing picture from previous regular CT reports to the statement in the HRCT. I was Dx with MAC per bronch specimen a couple of years ago.

REPLY
@cwal

Maybe? Here is the direct quote- ....."No characteristically tree in bud pattern to suggest mycobacterial infection"
It is a confusing picture from previous regular CT reports to the statement in the HRCT. I was Dx with MAC per bronch specimen a couple of years ago.

Jump to this post

MAC can go away spontaneously, especially if you do airway clearance.
For example, I had tree-in-bud nodules and a positive sputum culture in late 2019, but elected to stop the antibiotics in December of that year due to increasingly severe side effects from the daily regimen. I continued daily airway clearance with 7% saline and an Aerobika. I also use Mucinex and NAC to thin my mucus, and an inhaler to control my asthma.
One year later, my CT scan looked better than the day I stopped. It has remained stable ever since.
Also, a HRCT may show the exact lung condition more clearly, making it possible for the radiologist to recognize that what were reported as tree in bud previously was perhaps scar tissue or other artifacts of a previous infection. Again, for example, I have one area in my lungs that always shows "some opacity" on scans but in 5 years, it has never developed into something identifiable.
What does the doctor say?
Sue

REPLY
@sueinmn

MAC can go away spontaneously, especially if you do airway clearance.
For example, I had tree-in-bud nodules and a positive sputum culture in late 2019, but elected to stop the antibiotics in December of that year due to increasingly severe side effects from the daily regimen. I continued daily airway clearance with 7% saline and an Aerobika. I also use Mucinex and NAC to thin my mucus, and an inhaler to control my asthma.
One year later, my CT scan looked better than the day I stopped. It has remained stable ever since.
Also, a HRCT may show the exact lung condition more clearly, making it possible for the radiologist to recognize that what were reported as tree in bud previously was perhaps scar tissue or other artifacts of a previous infection. Again, for example, I have one area in my lungs that always shows "some opacity" on scans but in 5 years, it has never developed into something identifiable.
What does the doctor say?
Sue

Jump to this post

Sue
Good points about the HRCT showing exact conditions more clearly in that context. I was confused and surprised about that part of my report since I had just had 2 recent exacerbations only about 5 months apart.

I will see what the doc says next appt. Also, what is NAC?

REPLY
@cwal

Sue
Good points about the HRCT showing exact conditions more clearly in that context. I was confused and surprised about that part of my report since I had just had 2 recent exacerbations only about 5 months apart.

I will see what the doc says next appt. Also, what is NAC?

Jump to this post

N Acetyl Cysteine - It is a precursor of glutathione, and is commonly thought to be useful both for thinning mucus and against inflammation. You can read about it here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6458826/
https://bronchiectasisnewstoday.com/2019/05/09/n-acetylcysteine-potentially-beneficial-bronchiectasis-patients/

There are also numerous discussions about it in this group. If you go to the main MAC & Bronchiectasis group page and put NAC in the search box for Search this Group, you will find many discussions and posts.

I was a little hesitant at first, but tried it to clamp down on exacerbations. In the past 2 years, I have only had two - only one of which required treatment. Previously, I had 4-5 episodes a year.
Sue

REPLY
@sueinmn

N Acetyl Cysteine - It is a precursor of glutathione, and is commonly thought to be useful both for thinning mucus and against inflammation. You can read about it here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6458826/
https://bronchiectasisnewstoday.com/2019/05/09/n-acetylcysteine-potentially-beneficial-bronchiectasis-patients/

There are also numerous discussions about it in this group. If you go to the main MAC & Bronchiectasis group page and put NAC in the search box for Search this Group, you will find many discussions and posts.

I was a little hesitant at first, but tried it to clamp down on exacerbations. In the past 2 years, I have only had two - only one of which required treatment. Previously, I had 4-5 episodes a year.
Sue

Jump to this post

I think brand is important with NAC. Have you researched that Sue and found a good one? I may try it again. Last time gave me insomnia.

REPLY
@irenea8

I think brand is important with NAC. Have you researched that Sue and found a good one? I may try it again. Last time gave me insomnia.

Jump to this post

Hello Irene, Since I have been unable to get the Jarrow brand I prefer, I have switched to NOW brand with good results. Fortunately, I was recently in Canada where Jarrow is available, and I stocked up.
I have not noticed any side effects from NAC, but when I accidentally ran out last winter, I sure noticed a difference in my cough after only 3 days.
Sue

REPLY
@cwal

Thank you Sue.
Yes, the Radiologist had the previous "regular" CT to compare to. I just don't understand how it would show on the Regular CT but the HRCT, which as I understand gives a higher quality image, did not show it? Can tree in bud "disappear"?

I have not seen my doctor yet since the scan but she tends to blow me off anyway so I try not to ask her much.

Jump to this post

If you feel that way, I'd look for a new pulminologist. Why did they order a HRCT?

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.