Receiving blood from blood bank for lung cancer surgery

Posted by texasgal121 @texasgal121, Jun 30 12:08pm

According to the Red Cross webpage and emails I have received, donors cannot give blood if they have taken experimental vaccines or drugs. ALL of the Covid “vaccines” are experimental, not totally approved by the FDA, and do not even meet the criteria for a vaccine according to the CDC. But I have been told by several at the Red Cross that they do not even ask anyone if they have had the shot(s). It does stay in a person’s blood, thus blood clots, etc. So facing lung cancer surgery has now been magnified by trying to find blood donors who have not had the shots or finding a hospital that uses the cell saver machine.

@sueinmn

I guess we need to agree to disagree on this issue.

Every vaccine or other medical treatment has been new or experimental at one time, but since the Polio epidemic in the 1940's and '50's, none has been as widespread, contagious, had such dire health effects or caused such a change in the way of life as Covid-19.

There were no effective treatments known when this virus leapt into our country and turned life upside down. Our hospitals were overwhelmed, and the only tool for getting control was to shut down the country and expose our essential workers to high risk of serious illness.

There is no way to argue with the change in the scenario in the US today compared to a year ago, nor with the decline in infections, hospitalizations and deaths from the Covid virus and its variants since the distribution of vaccines began, even though we have returned to life as nearly-normal. And it is very difficult to dispute that the virus, including more dangerous variants, is spreading in areas with low vaccination rates, but not where more people have been vaccinated.

Yes, some people are experiencing side effects from the vaccine, but far fewer than from Covid. As for the argument of not knowing future effects of the vaccine, we are also still learning the future effects of having had the virus – and these are far more numerous.

As for your assertion "It is hard to believe what the truth is. Perhaps you have a difficult time finding online information because of the search engine used. Many search engines have priorities as to what information people receive first. Remember, just because you have not heard it, it doesn’t mean the information or medical condition does not exist. Makes me wonder why online information such as videos from you tube get deleted. I can understand there may be some but these videos were from credible sources like physicians who had connections with other physicians for their information."

– I do find and read many of those sources. Every time, without exception, that I have asked the author for actual, numerical data, I have received no reply, and in a few cases I have been blocked by them. That does not make me think reliable information is being reported.

– I closely look at data from sources considered "reliable" to make sure they are not comparing apples and oranges. If you want to see population-based data rather than raw numbers, you can look here; http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/ Each graph or chart reports data based on /100,000 population so you can compare data between more/less populous areas accurately.

You asked "What happened to all those side effects reported to VAERS? Lots of time has lapsed from the beginning of the year when people started their reporting. Does it take this long for any mention? How can many reports be coincidental and not related to the vaccine? I can see some but many? It appears again for no negative response( not a word whether good or bad) in order to get more people vaccinated. I would think there would not be any hesitancy for positive findings."

– Every week, or more likely, every day, both positive and negative outcomes are being reported in the new, in information feeds like Mayo, CDC, WHO and many others.

– Adverse side effects are being studied worldwide to determine how often, how severe, and what can be done to improve. The University of Minnesota alone has 12 studies underway, multiplied nation and worldwide, this surely translates to thousands. Research-based studies take a year or more to produce reportable results.

– You can see the VAERS data for yourself using this search engine: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html When I search VAERS, I assume underreporting, because not every adverse effect gets reported and recorded. However, even if one assumes that the occurrence of side effects or deaths are 2, 3 or even 10 times more frequent than the data shows, the vaccines are far less dangerous than the infection.

I understand your fears, but the arguments don't stand up to the data.
Sue

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Spot On Sue! I believe that there are many people who lack critical thinking skills, and some are truly not aware of how to distinguish a reliable source of info when they see one. (and sadly do not recognize unreliable sources of info) Another hampering factor is that not trusting the vaccines is that these same non-critical thinkers are not math savvy. They are not realizing percentage-wise how minimal the adverse effects can happen vs saving lives.

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@mermaid7272

Time on a ventilator is pretty bad too, but death is somewhat worse!

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Living as a covid 'Long Hauler' is no picnic either. One beautiful young mother ended her life recently because she has suffered the horrible side effects of having had covid. She felt horrible for 13 months and could see no end in sight. She decided she couldn't take it any more. She left behind an infant child and grieving husband.

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@windwalker

Living as a covid 'Long Hauler' is no picnic either. One beautiful young mother ended her life recently because she has suffered the horrible side effects of having had covid. She felt horrible for 13 months and could see no end in sight. She decided she couldn't take it any more. She left behind an infant child and grieving husband.

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Suicide is death, plus added guilt and grief for the family.

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@windwalker

Spot On Sue! I believe that there are many people who lack critical thinking skills, and some are truly not aware of how to distinguish a reliable source of info when they see one. (and sadly do not recognize unreliable sources of info) Another hampering factor is that not trusting the vaccines is that these same non-critical thinkers are not math savvy. They are not realizing percentage-wise how minimal the adverse effects can happen vs saving lives.

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So right Terri, my daughter refuses to get the vaccine for reasons that are beyond my comprehensions. She is usually an intelligent person, of an analytical type of mind, and certainly has no strange political beliefs against this vaccine. Just refuses to get it and insists she will not become sick. She does wear a mask and practices social distancing to the extreme. She has become almost a hermit! I simply can't get through to her.

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That's what is so sad. I am just grateful that my kids and grands all got theirs. We have family members on both sides of the aisle, and all are vaccinated. We're almost all still speaking to each other. ha ha. The big test will come when we gather here at my house for the first time in 5 years on Aug. 29th for a family get together. Isn't that wild? We all adore each other, but not each other's politics. This was a tough grind. I hope that your dear daughter remains well. And that our luncheon goes well. Should they inspect my food? LOL

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@lizzier

That's what is so sad. I am just grateful that my kids and grands all got theirs. We have family members on both sides of the aisle, and all are vaccinated. We're almost all still speaking to each other. ha ha. The big test will come when we gather here at my house for the first time in 5 years on Aug. 29th for a family get together. Isn't that wild? We all adore each other, but not each other's politics. This was a tough grind. I hope that your dear daughter remains well. And that our luncheon goes well. Should they inspect my food? LOL

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@lizzier– Good morning. My family has run into this with a family member. We've had some rows too! And that family member was one out of the family so he was surrounded. So what we did was declare any get-togethers politically safe haven. No political discussions!

Since it's your house, it's your rules! Doncha think?

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I agree with this. I haven't used those words, but I do believe that our homes need to be politically safe havens. Great words.

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