Pseudobulbar affect (PBA)

Posted by Teresa, Volunteer Mentor @hopeful33250, Tue, Aug 6 11:20am

Here is a link to a Mayo Clinic article on PBA
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pseudobulbar-affect/symptoms-causes/syc-20353737?
PBA usually affects people with neurological disorders, such as people who have had a stroke, closed-head injury, MS, etc. It is characterized by uncontrollable crying or laughing (oftentimes at an inappropriate time). As I read this article, I was wondering if any Connect members are affected by this disorder. If so, could you share your experiences? For example: When did it start? How do you deal with it?

I look forward to hearing from you.

To follow up on what @hopeful33250 posted on pseudobulbar affect (PBA), which can affect people with neurologic disorders like stroke, closed-head injury, MS, etc., and can cause uncontrollable crying or laughing (sometimes at an inappropriate time), I'd like to invite some others into this conversation to talk about whether they have experienced this, like @lakelifelady @dawnpereda @ian7811 @hammondm99 @brightwings @leslon @grammadoro @becsbuddy.

Have you met anyone who's experienced PBA, @hopeful33250?

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@lisalucier Hi, Lisa, I have what you might call a head injury but I’ve never experienced PBA. A friend, who has MS, also has not experienced PBA

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@lisalucier

To follow up on what @hopeful33250 posted on pseudobulbar affect (PBA), which can affect people with neurologic disorders like stroke, closed-head injury, MS, etc., and can cause uncontrollable crying or laughing (sometimes at an inappropriate time), I'd like to invite some others into this conversation to talk about whether they have experienced this, like @lakelifelady @dawnpereda @ian7811 @hammondm99 @brightwings @leslon @grammadoro @becsbuddy.

Have you met anyone who's experienced PBA, @hopeful33250?

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Hello @lisalucier,

I have never personally known anyone with this disorder but I have seen a lot mentions of it in the media in the form of public service announcements. I would hope that any Members of Connect who have been affected by this personally or in their family might post.

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I had to look up what PBA is and I have not been told I have it. I have fibromyalgia (2009) and had a stroke (may 17, 2015). I had noticed that I would get tears and hard to talk when someone was talking about an illness or I was not able to do something and asked for help. Now recently I have been upset more. I said no to a job offered to work in another location earlier this year got upset with tears unlike me. I am now having other medical problems related to fibromyalgia believe and have been crying in car, at home, in bed. Thanks for bring this to my attention I may need to talk to doctor about it.

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I, too, had severe fibromyalgia, which ended a successful career before I was ready to retire. However, in 2015, I stopped eating all grains and sugar, and my fibro was gone.

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@mcwoodham761

I, too, had severe fibromyalgia, which ended a successful career before I was ready to retire. However, in 2015, I stopped eating all grains and sugar, and my fibro was gone.

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@mcwoodham761 Good for you! Sugar and grains cause inflammation, so you got healthier and your pain left, and you'll stay healthier as you age. It's hard to get others to understand that connection, It's like inflammation rusts out our bodies, and kind of literally this is what is happening as oxidation takes place. Antioxidants found in vegetables slows this process down.

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I suffered a TBI after a catastrophic car accident. Afterward while struggling to recover I found that in heavy traffic, pounding rain , having a quick stop or close call,or coming upon an accident put me into uncontrollable sobbing or wailing. My arms often flew up too. It has been four years now since the accident but my startle response is still quite active and loud noises enrage me. I often have to go in the house and close the windows when neighbors mow their lawns.
It is all getting more normal with time but I still cry very easily with emotional situations or family tensions.

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@jenniferhunter

@mcwoodham761 Good for you! Sugar and grains cause inflammation, so you got healthier and your pain left, and you'll stay healthier as you age. It's hard to get others to understand that connection, It's like inflammation rusts out our bodies, and kind of literally this is what is happening as oxidation takes place. Antioxidants found in vegetables slows this process down.

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I also lost 51 l lbs.

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@lakelifelady

I suffered a TBI after a catastrophic car accident. Afterward while struggling to recover I found that in heavy traffic, pounding rain , having a quick stop or close call,or coming upon an accident put me into uncontrollable sobbing or wailing. My arms often flew up too. It has been four years now since the accident but my startle response is still quite active and loud noises enrage me. I often have to go in the house and close the windows when neighbors mow their lawns.
It is all getting more normal with time but I still cry very easily with emotional situations or family tensions.

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Hugs

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@mcwoodham761

I also lost 51 l lbs.

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@mcwoodham761 You really turned your life around. That's wonderful.

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@lakelifelady

I suffered a TBI after a catastrophic car accident. Afterward while struggling to recover I found that in heavy traffic, pounding rain , having a quick stop or close call,or coming upon an accident put me into uncontrollable sobbing or wailing. My arms often flew up too. It has been four years now since the accident but my startle response is still quite active and loud noises enrage me. I often have to go in the house and close the windows when neighbors mow their lawns.
It is all getting more normal with time but I still cry very easily with emotional situations or family tensions.

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@lakelifelady It's good that you recognize what you need to avoid and it must be frustrating for you. My dad also had a traumatic brain injury in his 60's and he would get very emotional and cry, but he also seemed to be drawn to tragedy and reacting to it. His childhood had been very stressful and traumatic, and he never got past the hurts in his life and he stayed angry about things that happened many years ago. He also cried when he saw the statue of the "End of the Trail" that was about the suffering and Trail of Tears for Native Americans. He always had a bit of a temper, but that got worse after the head injury. I hope your family understands and tries to help avoid these situations that would set off your emotions. Something like this can happen to anyone. I don't like loud noise either and carry foam earplugs in my purse in case I find myself somewhere that I need them. I find soothing music to be relaxing or playing with my cats.

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@jenniferhunter

@lakelifelady It's good that you recognize what you need to avoid and it must be frustrating for you. My dad also had a traumatic brain injury in his 60's and he would get very emotional and cry, but he also seemed to be drawn to tragedy and reacting to it. His childhood had been very stressful and traumatic, and he never got past the hurts in his life and he stayed angry about things that happened many years ago. He also cried when he saw the statue of the "End of the Trail" that was about the suffering and Trail of Tears for Native Americans. He always had a bit of a temper, but that got worse after the head injury. I hope your family understands and tries to help avoid these situations that would set off your emotions. Something like this can happen to anyone. I don't like loud noise either and carry foam earplugs in my purse in case I find myself somewhere that I need them. I find soothing music to be relaxing or playing with my cats.

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Thank you Jennifer hunter for your kind understanding words. My family is loving and gentle with their mother, along with the great and grand kids. I am grateful.

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I have it. It was so embarrassing. I would start crying in front of my bosses. And I would laugh when someone got hurt which was not at all appropriate. I thought I was going crazy! My primary doctor said it was peri-menopause. 5 years later, my neuro diagnosed it as pseudobulbar affect.

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Hello @jl1,

I am so pleased that you responded to this topic. If you are comfortable doing so, could you share with us when these crying/laughing problems began? Were there any triggers beforehand?

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@hopeful33250

Hello @jl1,

I am so pleased that you responded to this topic. If you are comfortable doing so, could you share with us when these crying/laughing problems began? Were there any triggers beforehand?

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I have several symptoms that came on gradually so i am no real sure when each started but i think it started aroynd 2014 or 2015. I don't think there were any triggers. At firsr is was just crying slightly exaggerated. About a year and a half ago, it got really bad. I was crying hard for no reason.

I was so happy to find out that it was a neurogical reason. Now i take 50 mg of zoloft and don't have any issues with it.

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