Does eating less red meat help reduce risk prostate cancer recurrence?

Posted by love06092025 @love06092025, Sep 20 11:43am

Hi !
My husband had a successful radical prostatectomy . I think it would benefit him (as in prevent a recurrence or future cancer of another type) to drastically reduce his red meat consumption or even better yet, STOP it but he feels otherwise. I am curious if anyone can refer me to documentation or medical journal article to support my theory.
Thank you!

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Great post!

I not only consider my dietary choices in terms of reducing the possibility of recurrence, but also as a critical component to being at the peak of health in order to be able to qualify for and survive existing and future treatments for recurrence.

Health benefits aside, I'll take the multitude of amazing colors, flavors and textures a largely plant based diet delivers through simple recipes from around the globe bursting with flavors from diverse blends of herbs and seasonings. Thanks, PCa, for bringing the most amazing cuisine into my life! It sounds silly, but it's how I feel because I love to eat tasty well-seasoned foods! At 6'4" and 190 lbs, 120 g of plant based food (no powders or supplements) and 10 cups of mostly fresh fruits and veggies per day accompanied by nuts and whole grains calls for a wide variety of tasty recipes!!
Bill

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@ucla2025
Did you graduate from UCLA?

Eating a healthy diet recommendation is right on regardless of having health compromised or not. Heathly eating can help prevent health issues.

Eating protein is important per my Mayo dietician. Eating the right portion is the most important thing she said. So equal portions of protein, carbohydrates, vegetable, fruit, etc. are important to a healthy diet.

I don't eat red meat as I read a book one time that brought you throught the process of the cow all the way to your supermarket. I would not refuse to eat red meat if served by someone but I don't eat in on regular basis. I prefer fish, chicken, turkey. I find them much easier to digest.

I think anyone with cardiovascular disease would be more concerned with red meat and cholsestrol and fat. That is why I continue to recommend someone asking question about medical should talk to their doctors who have their medical and mental health issues and history.

There can be many things to cut back on meat not related to PC that a doctor would recommend. When I read the things that some cows eat or are injected with makes me apprehensive. I think diet can have a contribution factor to any cancer but not a cause. But that is what my PCP (Mayo) and dietician bried me on not my medical knowledge as I have none to give medical or dietary recommendations.

I know when I went through PC radiation I was given medical advice to eat a healthly diet as my body was going through the trauma of radiation and a healthy diet was recommended.

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No, I got my bachelors from Ohio State and my masters from San Jose State. My studies had nothing to do with nutrition but I’m getting more interested in it now that my husband has PC. He is being treated at UCLA.

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Great post!

I not only consider my dietary choices in terms of reducing the possibility of recurrence, but also as a critical component to being at the peak of health in order to be able to qualify for and survive existing and future treatments for recurrence.

Health benefits aside, I'll take the multitude of amazing colors, flavors and textures a largely plant based diet delivers through simple recipes from around the globe bursting with flavors from diverse blends of herbs and seasonings. Thanks, PCa, for bringing the most amazing cuisine into my life! It sounds silly, but it's how I feel because I love to eat tasty well-seasoned foods! At 6'4" and 190 lbs, 120 g of plant based food (no powders or supplements) and 10 cups of mostly fresh fruits and veggies per day accompanied by nuts and whole grains calls for a wide variety of tasty recipes!!
Bill

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Us 6’4” people are 1 in 100.. I like to stay at 189, pretty close.

For lunch, I fill a 10 inch bowl to the top with Romaine, Kale, Tomatoes, Artichoke hearts, Green onions, Avocado and little bay shrimp. Olive Oil, red wine vinegar and anchovy dressing.

Lots of brown rice at dinner with chicken or fish and vegetables. My wife makes a great broccoli with stewed tomatoes in it.

For breakfast sugar free organic cereal with high protein, Almonds and pistachios in it. Oat milk without sugar.

Never eat until full.

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Forgot to say - buy organic as much as possible. I know that it is more expensive, but it is really important. Yes, some "organic" produce is not 100 % organic, but one can only imagine what is than on regular produce that is never tested.
If you still plan to eat meat, buy not only organic but pasture raised . "Cage free" is not pasture raised. Also, there are animals that are pasture raised always since they can not be forced to eat "feed" and those are lambs and goats. Their milk is also much healthier for that reason but only in a context if one can not stop eating red meat or stop drinking milk.
Otherwise, if at all possible, limit protein to plant source or fish.

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Us 6’4” people are 1 in 100.. I like to stay at 189, pretty close.

For lunch, I fill a 10 inch bowl to the top with Romaine, Kale, Tomatoes, Artichoke hearts, Green onions, Avocado and little bay shrimp. Olive Oil, red wine vinegar and anchovy dressing.

Lots of brown rice at dinner with chicken or fish and vegetables. My wife makes a great broccoli with stewed tomatoes in it.

For breakfast sugar free organic cereal with high protein, Almonds and pistachios in it. Oat milk without sugar.

Never eat until full.

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Hi Jeff,
Your post popped up an hour before I finished painting the cabin for the day and made me hungry! Do you use the fillets or paste for the dressing? I love a big hearty salad with some sort of vinaigrette for dressing. The mention of anchovies makes me want to figure out a healthy caesar dressing. Thanks!
Bill

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I also don’t want my husband eating red meat! What has worked for me is to stop cooking dishes with red meat and have a nice steak or hamburger once in awhile. He likes my cooking and happily eats dishes without red meat. I just started doing it without really discussing it…just quietly changed the menu. I make things like stroganoff with chicken, spaghetti sauce with ground turkey, veggie casseroles, etc. Cooking with love is the most nutritious kind of food in my book.

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@ucla2025
my wife would have made the same choice for me using the "sneaky with love cookbook". My whole family have cut back on eating meat.

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See now, you guys are thinking about this all wrong. All of these "healthy" diets are telling me to eat for dinner what my dinner eats for dinner. I just skip all the cutting and shredding and preparing and go straight to the top. Since my dinner ate that stuff already, I still get all the benefits without all the work. 😁

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When I had my RP two years ago, I asked my surgeon if he had any dietary recommendations. He said “only one, give up red meat”. That was easy for me because I gave it up years ago. Hope this helps. Good luck!

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No, I got my bachelors from Ohio State and my masters from San Jose State. My studies had nothing to do with nutrition but I’m getting more interested in it now that my husband has PC. He is being treated at UCLA.

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@ucla2025
It was just your i.d. that I presume you graduated there.

I am a patient at Mayo Jacksonville. They have dietician specialist that I see. I also went through diet nutrution counseling at Mayo Heart Failure office.

The bottom line given to me was moderation. There was nothing about not eating red meat just eat in moderation. They went over a healthly diet and what your plate should have on it. I try to follow that epert nutrition guidance as you can get all diferent views and opinions from web cast.

I don't eat red meat. My wife does but sees cardiologist and nutritionist as she has diabetes. Again no restriction to not eat red meat just in moderation.

I find red meat hard to digest and get bloating. I have not had red meat for over 25 years but still go prostate cancer. Contributing factors can affect getting cancer just as any other disease but they come from many factors: Environmental, diet, exercise, family history (genetics), drug use, alcohol, etc. Listen to medical professionals experts. Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, WEDMD all have web sites you can go on to review medical experts and dietician to get major medical facilities nutritional guidance.

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A lot of the nutrition advice for prostate cancer sounds like a long list of “don’ts” — don’t eat much red meat, don’t eat processed foods, go easy on high-fat dairy. That’s real, but it’s only half the story. There’s good evidence that what you add in may matter just as much.

Foods with potential benefit:

Fruits and vegetables — especially cruciferous ones (broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts) and tomatoes (rich in lycopene) are linked with lower recurrence risk in some studies.

Legumes and soy — plant proteins bring fiber and phytoestrogens that may support hormone balance.

Whole grains and nuts — help with insulin control and provide healthy fats.

Fatty fish (salmon, sardines, trout) — give you omega-3s, which are anti-inflammatory in the context of whole foods (supplements don’t show the same benefit).

Olive oil and Mediterranean-style eating — associated with lower all-cause mortality, not just prostate cancer.

Why this matters: Nutrition isn’t just about “avoiding harm.” It’s also about giving your body tools to reduce inflammation, improve metabolic health, and possibly create an environment less favorable to cancer growth.

So instead of feeling boxed in by restrictions, it can help to think of diet as shifting the balance — less processed meat and junk food, more plants, fish, and healthy oils. That way your plate still feels full, but full of things that may work in your favor.

General dietary patterns

Mediterranean diet and prostate cancer outcomes:
Kenfield SA, DuPre N, Richman EL, et al. Mediterranean diet and prostate cancer risk and mortality in the Health Professionals Follow-up Study. Eur Urol. 2014;65(5):887-894. PMID: 23601661

→ Men with higher adherence to the Mediterranean diet had lower overall mortality and lower prostate cancer mortality.

Fruits & vegetables (esp. cruciferous)

Cruciferous vegetables:
Kirsh VA, Peters U, Mayne ST, et al. Prospective study of fruit and vegetable intake and risk of prostate cancer. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2007;99(15):1200-1209. PMID: 17652276

→ Higher intake of cruciferous vegetables was linked to reduced risk of aggressive prostate cancer.

Tomatoes/lycopene:
Giovannucci E, et al. Intake of carotenoids and retinol in relation to risk of prostate cancer. J Natl Cancer Inst. 1995;87(23):1767–1776. PMID: 7473833

→ Frequent tomato/lycopene consumption associated with reduced risk.

Healthy fats & fish

Fish/omega-3s:
Chavarro JE, Stampfer MJ, Li H, et al. A 22-year prospective study of fish intake in relation to prostate cancer incidence and mortality. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008;88(5):1297–1303. PMID: 18996867

→ Regular fish intake was not strongly tied to incidence but was linked to lower prostate cancer mortality.

Olive oil / Mediterranean fats:
Schwingshackl L, Hoffmann G. Monounsaturated fatty acids and risk of cardiovascular disease: synopsis of systematic review and meta-analysis. Eur J Clin Nutr. 2012;66(7):781–788. PMID: 22491492

→ Not prostate-specific, but underlines why olive oil is part of the “healthier fat” story.

Plant proteins / soy

Yan L, Spitznagel EL. Soy consumption and prostate cancer risk in men: a revisit of a meta-analysis. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89(4):1155–1163. PMID: 19211820

→ Soy intake associated with reduced prostate cancer risk in pooled studies.

Processed/red meat (what to cut back on)

World Cancer Research Fund / AICR Continuous Update Project (2018). Diet, Nutrition, Physical Activity and Prostate Cancer.
Link to report

→ Strong evidence: processed/red meat contributes to higher cancer risk; guidance supports limiting intake.

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@dhasper
Great post. Yes agree and is what my dietician and cardiologist told me. Benefits of ___

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