Post stroke rehab: When will it start?

Posted by janoh @janoh, Mar 31, 2020

It was a year in January 2020 that my 40 year old daughter had a stroke. She is in a nursing home, has a trache and feeding tube. We’ve been trying to get her physical therapy but every time they evaluate her they say she isn’t following commands “consistently” The nursing home is suppose to be giving her restorative therapy, which they haven’t been doing like they should.
My concern is how will she be able to get into physical therapy if no one is working with her. She has two babies at home and a fiancé and family that she needs to come home to.
I’m Janice, her mom.
Thanks!

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Hello @janoh,

My heart is touched by your daughter's situation and the choices you need to make. As you know, on Mayo Connect, we are not medical professionals, but patients who are here to offer support and encouragement.

With that said, while I don't know much about these types of brain disorders, I can recommend that you seek a second opinion with a doctor who is a well-known specialist in this area of brain problems. It should be a specialist who can read her MRIs, review her surgical records and if possible exam her in the facility where she is or better yet if she can be moved with assistance to see that specialist for an exam.

Is your daughter able to walk, sit, talk, etc? Does she remember you and other family members? What cognitive deficits does she seem to have? Her inability to "following commands “consistently” should be reviewed by another professional in the area of physical/occupational therapy. There are PTs and OTs with different skills, training, and abilities to diagnose and work with people with a serious brain disorder.

You don't mention the city where you and your daughter live, but if it were me I would look for the best neurophysiologist in the area so that her physical and cognitive abilities could be evaluated.

A second opinion is so very important in situations like that of your daughter.

Will you post again?

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@hopeful33250

Hello @janoh,

My heart is touched by your daughter's situation and the choices you need to make. As you know, on Mayo Connect, we are not medical professionals, but patients who are here to offer support and encouragement.

With that said, while I don't know much about these types of brain disorders, I can recommend that you seek a second opinion with a doctor who is a well-known specialist in this area of brain problems. It should be a specialist who can read her MRIs, review her surgical records and if possible exam her in the facility where she is or better yet if she can be moved with assistance to see that specialist for an exam.

Is your daughter able to walk, sit, talk, etc? Does she remember you and other family members? What cognitive deficits does she seem to have? Her inability to "following commands “consistently” should be reviewed by another professional in the area of physical/occupational therapy. There are PTs and OTs with different skills, training, and abilities to diagnose and work with people with a serious brain disorder.

You don't mention the city where you and your daughter live, but if it were me I would look for the best neurophysiologist in the area so that her physical and cognitive abilities could be evaluated.

A second opinion is so very important in situations like that of your daughter.

Will you post again?

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Thank you!
We live in Ohio, suburb of Cleveland. We have tried to get my daughter in with three different Inpatient Physical Medicine and Rehab Facilities. 1) UPMC denied her because they wouldn’t accept out of state Medicaid. 2). OSU Wexner Medical Center they felt that she wouldn’t be able to handle the intense 3 hour a day, 5 days a week physical therapy. 3) Metro - Cleveland same reason as OSU.
My daughter has a trache and a feeding tube. She is non verbal. She can follow you with head and eyes when you move around and talk to her. She answers your questions either by squeezing your hand or nodding her head. She can wiggle her toes on her right side and a little bit on her left (her stroke affected her left side). She definitely knows we are there.
Our concern is: How will she be able to follow commands “consistently” if no one is working with her consistently. The nursing home say they are working with her but how do we know this (we can’t be there 24-7) When we question them they always have an excuse (short staffed, they will do it tomorrow, etc).
We have established with a PM&R Doctor and we have a follow up with her, but because of the pandemic, it is rescheduled for later May.
It’s frustrating because it has already been over a year and she hasn’t really had any physical therapy. My husband and I visit every day and we try to do the best we can with working her legs and arms.
We are not giving up and I know my daughter doesn’t want to give up either!

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In 2017 my 27 YO son had a massive right hemisphere ischemic stroke while running on a tread mill. He was initially treated at KU Med & then moved to Madonna rehab, in Omaha, Nebraska for 6 weeks of therapy. No know medical reason was found except that he had a PFO which as closed at Mayo approximately 7 months post stroke. He is able to walk with a brace & has foot drop. He has limited movement in his left arm with clonus of the hand.
I am wondering if Mayo provides any advanced therapy or doing clinical trials with new devices.
Help… from a broken hearted father willing to do whatever it takes to help my son become as much as he can. Thank you so much for your time

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@jsbashland

In 2017 my 27 YO son had a massive right hemisphere ischemic stroke while running on a tread mill. He was initially treated at KU Med & then moved to Madonna rehab, in Omaha, Nebraska for 6 weeks of therapy. No know medical reason was found except that he had a PFO which as closed at Mayo approximately 7 months post stroke. He is able to walk with a brace & has foot drop. He has limited movement in his left arm with clonus of the hand.
I am wondering if Mayo provides any advanced therapy or doing clinical trials with new devices.
Help… from a broken hearted father willing to do whatever it takes to help my son become as much as he can. Thank you so much for your time

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Hello @jsbashland and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I am so sorry to hear about your son's stroke. I can't imagine as a parent how scary this has been for you.

I wonder if you've consulted at all with your son's care team who performed his PFO closure to see if they may be able to best direct you toward appropriate next steps?

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Thank you for your response. No I haven’t, don’t really know how or who to contact for any help or direction. Thank you, Jack Bonebrake

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