Positive Dysphotopsia after Cataract Surgery

Posted by bobbyo @bobbyo, Oct 30, 2021

I’m 62 and had my left eye cataract done in December 2019 and still have significant peripheral light streaks and night glare and starbursts while driving (positive dysphotopsia). Makes me a little “white-knuckled” when night driving and is maddening overall. Local surgeons are not inclined to consider an IOL exchange and neither am I, at this point.
With that, has anyone:
- experienced dissipation of dysphotopsia symptoms as time passed?
- tried photochromic contacts or glasses and had success?
- other actions that helped you?

Thanks for any input!

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@thedishie

Thanks for responding bobbyo! I had the halos from the get-go. The doctor blows off the issue.

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Read back to sbvrd’s May 23rd entry and link reference. Many commonly used lenses are notorious for leaving the patient with some halos and not the “cleanest” night vision. Need to find experienced surgeons who are willing and able to optimize your vision result.

See sbvrd’s doctor references too. In hindsight, I should have read much more about the surgery pitfalls and found a more sympathetic and helpful surgery group.

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@bobbyo

Read back to sbvrd’s May 23rd entry and link reference. Many commonly used lenses are notorious for leaving the patient with some halos and not the “cleanest” night vision. Need to find experienced surgeons who are willing and able to optimize your vision result.

See sbvrd’s doctor references too. In hindsight, I should have read much more about the surgery pitfalls and found a more sympathetic and helpful surgery group.

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I'm scheduling an appointment. I have major questions for him to answer. I will read up... thanks. I hope your adventure gets you to a resolution.

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@johnbishop

Hello @bobbyo, Welcome to Connect. I had cataract surgery done to both of my eyes last year and was really happy with the results because I no longer had to wear glasses for driving. I had the standard IOLs used and I did notice some glare on bright days and sometimes at night. Regular sunglasses help me during the day. I was bugged because I always had to have 1.25 reading glasses with me to read labels at the store. The surgeon did give me an RX for glasses to fix the reading and suggested I could have them as bifocals or progressive lenses so I recently had a pair made and wear them most of the time and they seem to make a difference with the night time glare that I still noticed a little, although not as bad as prior to my cataract surgery.

Here are a couple of articles you may find helpful on the topic.
-- Dealing with positive and negative dysphotopsias: https://www.ophthalmologytimes.com/view/dealing-positive-and-negative-dysphotopsias
-- BLOG: Educate patients on transient nature of dysphotopsias: https://www.healio.com/news/optometry/20180424/educate-patients-on-transient-nature-of-dysphotopsias

Have you looked into getting photochromic contacts or glasses?

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Today I contacted Bausch and lomb manufacturer of my lens to complain. It felt good.

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I decided not to go back to my original surgeon and went to another opthamologist for my (other)right eye. I described to him and the staff my problem. He looked and said it was a wrinkle not positive dysphotopsia. Come into this other room and I'll laser it for 15 seconds.
I did and my ray is gone. All that anguish gone in 15 seconds.
I was lucky I did not have my eyes done 2 weeks apart from the same surgeon.
My second opinion solved the problem. It gave me great satisfaction to cancel the checkup appointment with the first guy.
I scheduled my next surgery for the beginning of August with Dr. Kenneth Miller in Whippany, New Jersey.

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@cmannconso

I decided not to go back to my original surgeon and went to another opthamologist for my (other)right eye. I described to him and the staff my problem. He looked and said it was a wrinkle not positive dysphotopsia. Come into this other room and I'll laser it for 15 seconds.
I did and my ray is gone. All that anguish gone in 15 seconds.
I was lucky I did not have my eyes done 2 weeks apart from the same surgeon.
My second opinion solved the problem. It gave me great satisfaction to cancel the checkup appointment with the first guy.
I scheduled my next surgery for the beginning of August with Dr. Kenneth Miller in Whippany, New Jersey.

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That’s wonderful news! Good luck with your other eye!

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I have had problems since I had my first surgery 6 weeks ago and the other eye 4 weeks ago. My eyes have felt heavy and like something filled the bottom of my eye. I also had really odd light flashes in the outside of the eye-difficult to describe but a sort of fluttering and sensitivity to light. I have complained about this phenomena since the beginning but only today did I get answers from the doctor who did my first post op. She is calling it Positive Dysphotosia. She thinks it will go away in a month. If not, I am to return for another visit. Did others of you with this problem find that to be true-did it go away eventually and, if so, how long? Also, those of you who had the lasering-did that take care of the problem.? What is your advice about doing that now? Is there some helpful advice anyone could give me about what to do next?

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@sbdvrd

Hello again, and first I want to say that I'm sorry your PD has not resolved. My main complaint is an annoying constant light show. I am going on almost 5 months post surgery from my second eye and the flickering, mostly when indoors around artificial light has not resolved. I did get a 2nd & 3rd opinion and they said it is Positive Disphotopsia and that if neuroadaption doesn't happen in 3 months then a ROC o IOL exchnage is the solution. My ophthamologist said yesterday that I could try ROC (reverse optic capture) and it that doesn't work do a lens exchange. Not thrilled with multiple surgeries, especially if no guarantee. I am fine outdoors. I need to figure out this flickering first because my doctor also wants to make sure the lens is not moving (Phacodonesis). His exam and 2 other DR. say it is not but the video I have looks like it is or is it just a refection of light bouncing off the square edge of the Panoptix lens? I can't post link but if you search lottemeiners1.wixsite with .com at end you can see it.
If It just takes time to resolve than I am willing to do that vs any interventions but also am sensitive to the optimal timing to do any surgery, especially an IOL exchange. My Dr. says that needs to happen sooner than later (2-6 months).
I think what is happening for many (3 %) who have the latest material for these lenses, acrylic, is that it is highly reflective and causing light splatter when it hits the lens. Especially if it is a square edge lens with rings like my AcrySof IQ Panoptix Lens. LE is a topic. I think there is a misalignment issue of the alpha angle of our eyes and optical angle of the IOL lens. I did not have a pre-op Corneal Topography w/ iTrace to evaluate so I would ask for this in the future. BTW 3 doctors assured me that I had the perfect surgery with a very centered lens and perfect refractive power. That is maybe the missing link because the lens may need to be aligned differently according to your Corneal Topography vs. centered. One size does not fit all.

Here are articles that explain that more. Again can't post links but google:
How to Reduce Higher-Order Aberrations
Understanding spherical aberration
USING ANGLE ALPHA IN PREMIUM IOL SCREENING
Positive Dysphotopsia After Toric Trifocal IOL Implantation
Can't Get No Satisfaction: Post-cataract Surgery Dysphotopsias

I have tried the Vuity drops like you with same results. I was interested in the contact lenses you tried but sounds like that wasn't helpful. I am also trying drops that dilate my eyes because when I get dilated in the Doc office the pulsating vision goes away. I have tried with my Doc's advice OTC, Naphcon A which dilates your pupils slightly and it does offer some relief. Again, for me all is good outdoors on a bright sunny day when the light is not coming in at an angle but is overall and my eyes are dialated. Another thing that helps is to occlude (block) one eye, either eye, and the pulsating vision goes away. I have tried wearing a patch but then all gets blurred because I nee both eyes to focus.

I think Time healing option is a caveat, Optic capture a crap shoot and from most specialists I have talked to, IOL explant/exchange the consistent solution that would solve PD. All say they would also use a silicone lens, like Bausch + Lomb L161. It has rounded edges, less prone to developing PCO and is not reflective like acrylic. For me unfortunately it will be giving up the Multi-Focal I have for Mono - 1 distance. Not happy about that because I do see 20/30 in the doc office and outside. It becomes a quality of vision decision for indoors when it becomes vision that pulsates and is in soft focus. I cannot see peoples faces clearly, read street signs and text has a soft blur around it.

I have talked to many specialists and will list them here as well as informative forums I have visited;
Dr Fram, Advanced Vision Care
Dr. Robert Bailey, Wills Eye Center
Dr. Safran, NJ
Dr Foster, Eye Center No. Colorado
Dr. Olsen, Moran Eye Center

Forums to google:
Patient.Info - Panoptix Experience

Patient.Info - flickering-sensation-after-cataract-surgery

I hope this helps. I am happy to answer any more questions. It is hard to navigate this eye world as a novice but vision is so important, that I keep digging through the weeds. I wish I had done this much research before a procedure that I was told by so many, including my DR., would give me perfect vision.

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Thank you so much for this my eye doctor looks at me like I am crazy when I tell him about the flickering light and the slight blur like there is a fog over over one eye...I also have the Multi focal lens if they would of explained all this I might of thought different. The constant flickering drives me insane. At least now I know I am not crazy and it is real
Thanks

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...I have have floaters , and flickering light in the right corner of right eye since laser 2008, can give more details, but that light almost drove me round the bend, also the floaters which have lessened over the years but light still there depending on what light source i sit near eg window, lamp, and I agree when we tell someone of a flickering light its as if they don't believe us.... more to my eye/s story but just wanted to back you up on that tiny flickering light, some days worse than others and has diminished in that am used to it by now but now have other eye issues, very sad for everyone with eye problems as rely on our eyes of course every minute we are awake. J.

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@dsgreen5

Hello, I had cataract surgery done on both my eyes in June 3 weeks apart. I am severely myopic and have astigmatism. I upgraded to the premium Alcon Acrysof IQ toric lens. The left eye was done first and seemed great. However, I walked around without any correction on the right eye for 3 weeks, so didn't drive or do much at night. Immediately after surgery on the right eye, I noticed some glare/halos/streaks (starbursts), mostly in the left eye and most debilitating at night. The streaks are visible around every light source, both inside and outside. They told me that I had scarring and that a YAG would resolve my issues. Unfortunately, the YAG amplified the issues in both eyes, and both are equally affected. The "experts" now say they have no idea what the issue is. I've been going back and forth with the them, but am about to get a 2nd opinion. I believe it's the IOL. I will need to weigh the pros and cons of a lens exchange, if feasible, against the possibility of making a bad situation worse. I too have been prescribed drops that don't help. I've tried numerous sunglasses. The issues are amplified at night vs daytime due to amount of available light. My nighttime driving is totally compromised which is the worst part of this whole ordeal. I absolutely regret doing the surgery.

I appreciate your input and feedback on what you have tried. It's hard to resign myself to potentially having to deal with the side effects of the surgery for the rest of my life. Very depressing and difficult to come to terms with.

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I also have Alcon Acysoft lens (not toric). I too regret this surgery. I cannot drive at night due to extreme streaks of light at the 3:00 and 6:00 position coming from the headlights. I see the same thing with ANY night time light source. Street lights are a nightmare to look at. I also have the same problem with inside light sources as well. Walking my dog at night near homes with outside lights, street lights (the worst!) is miserable.
I have strabismus and am left eye dependent which complicates my fear of loosing vision in that eye. So a lens replacement is something I too am afraid to even consider. It is very depressing to deal with this, as it will be a lifelong affliction.

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@bobbyo

Yes, I have the same PD symptoms (temporal lights streaks being the worst).

Summary of ineffective treatments I tried: photochromic contact lenses, miotic eyedrops, Vuity eyedrops. None were helpful.

Note: For my cataract surgery in 2019, I went with traditional/insurance-covered IOL and that provided correction for distance vision BUT NOT for astigmatism (mine is 50). Since I can’t see signs well enough when driving, optometrist gave me toric contact lens that allows me to read signs. My PD remains and I attribute to the shortfalls of the IOL they used, Alcon SN60WF. I will, definitely, have a different IOL (and, surgeon) when I have my right eye done.

Any insight you have on PD is much appreciated!

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I have the same Alcon lens in both eyes. Regret it horribly. At the 3:00 and 6:00 position I have extreme light streaks from cars, streetlights, house exterior lights. These streaks extend way out. Any light source creates a glare or problem. Even my interior home lights have glare. This has become life changing for me. I cannot drive at night and dread even walking my dog at night due to the street lights. I thought that once I had my second eye done that it might mitigate the problems, it only made it worse. If anyone has any suggestions please post them. This is very depressing.

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