Perineural or Tarlov cysts

Posted by jenapower @jenapower, May 23, 2017

Hi, my name is Jennifer. I have commented on here before but I've never started a post. I have been told that I have fibromyalgia for a long time, I also have had a number of accidents with many broken bones and surgeries to put things back together. All of this has resulted in chronic pain, most of it is down my head/back/pelvis/spine and legs. In an effort to try to see more my doctor did a lumbar and pelvic MRI last week. Turns out I have a cyst on my spine called a perineural or Tarlov cyst. It's basically assistant starts at the nerve root and herniates out filling with spinal fluid. I guess there's like a leak from your spine to this cyst but the system itself is made up of nerves. It's the best of my understanding at this point. Mine is at the S2 location, and can cause pain from your back down your bottom and down your legs and includes some pretty severe headaches because it's upsetting the pressure of the spinal fluid around the brain. Again this is the best of my understanding of what I've been told. It certainly explains a lot of my symptoms that have been contributed to fibromyalgia and broken bones. Again they're not really sure what causes them but they think trauma in that area could be a contributor. I just wondered if anyone else had heard of this or experienced it. It is considered rare, i've come to find out there are only two doctors in the United States to do surgery on it. One of them that's all he does and he actually goes to other countries to help people that don't have access to a doctor that is experienced in this surgery. It's a long recovery and pretty scary surgery because they're messing with your new or nerve root I don't want to think about what the bad consequences could be although I know I have to. I think I've gotten to a point where I'm pretty much flat on my back every day and it's no life, so I'm actually happy to have an answer. If anybody else knows anything about this I would love to hear it or has any experience with the surgery.
Thank you, Jennifer

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I have 3 Tarlov cysts on my spine. I have consulted Dr Feiganbaum in Texas. He only works on Tarlov cysts and he is one of the 3 doctors in the us who treats them. You can read testimonials about the surgery that he does from his patients. The recovery time after the operation appears to be long. I went to a spine doctor at Emory in Atlanta and he told me it would be a bad idea to have the surgery and he could not believe any doctor would operate on them. Emory is a very large hospital and the doctors comment scared me. I took a steroid injection almost 2 weeks ago and my pain has been worse since then which doesn’t make sense. About 4 months I started having headaches and I did not know Tarlov cysts could headaches. Thanks for your response.

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Does anyone know if these cyst can form in the area after a spinal tap and blood patch?

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@mayopost

Does anyone know if these cyst can form in the area after a spinal tap and blood patch?

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Hello @mayopost and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. That is a great question.

You will notice that I have moved your post into the following discussion which you can find here:
- Perineural or Tarlov cysts: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/perineural-or-tarlov-cysts/

From what I was able to find, shock or trauma of the spine, or exertion, can cause spinal fluid in the cysts to build up.

Recent members in the discussion such as @francesmharris123 @sarsarson and @taml may have more information to share.

Do you believe yours developed after a spinal tap?

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Hi Jennifer, I to just found out from a MRI back in November that I have a perineural/Tarlov cyst on my spine L5-S1 area. They say they are very rare & most times asymptomatic but I have A LOT of pain in my lower back where it is located. I haven't felt pain in my bottom or down my leg yet & I pray I don't. I ALWAYS get headaches that at times feel like migraines. I have been unable to find a Dr that treats these rare cyst except for one in Dallas, Tx and he does not take my insurance so that's upsetting. If it goes untreated from what I read it will cause permanent nerve damage that's not repairable. So I know exactly what u are dealing with. I don't feel so alone now knowing I'm not the only one with this rare cyst.

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@candybeason45

Hi Jennifer, I to just found out from a MRI back in November that I have a perineural/Tarlov cyst on my spine L5-S1 area. They say they are very rare & most times asymptomatic but I have A LOT of pain in my lower back where it is located. I haven't felt pain in my bottom or down my leg yet & I pray I don't. I ALWAYS get headaches that at times feel like migraines. I have been unable to find a Dr that treats these rare cyst except for one in Dallas, Tx and he does not take my insurance so that's upsetting. If it goes untreated from what I read it will cause permanent nerve damage that's not repairable. So I know exactly what u are dealing with. I don't feel so alone now knowing I'm not the only one with this rare cyst.

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Hello, I also have Tarlov or Perineural cysts in my spine, a recent MRI done at Mayo Clinic mentioned one at S2 which I knew about but also more along the cervical and T11 areas. They discount them as a cause of pain, and since I have moderate stenosis and severe facet arthropathy I don’t know, but I believe they do cause pain. There is a support group on Facebook which has a huge number of members from all over the world, if you need help with support and ways to lower the pain. I will not have the surgery, I don’t think it would help me at my age (70) as I’ve been suffering for years. There are supplements and natural treatments that are supposed to help. There’s only a few surgeons in the world that will operate, they are mentioned there! I wish you all the best in your search for relief!

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@michael1978

I too have this issue and i took pain meds for 7 years but had to fight to get an mri which was finally done in jan of 2016 but due to the pain med epidemic going on i choose to stop taking the meds and winged off in oct of 2017 and im here to say my life is a living hell. I do try everyday i go to the gym but i can only do so much and when im using machines i can feel my spine move its so weird. Now as we all know some days are better than others and i never have a full day of ok its a hit and miss. Some times i stand up and fall over cause my legs dont wanna work it sucks so bad. I use to drive a truck locally hauling grain and my legs would hurt so bad that i could barely move,if im on my feet to long standing up my back will hurt so bad i fall down and cry loudly its sad when your wife and kids look at who use to be their superman is crying on the floor with doctors acting like they dont care cause i lost my insurance and now get treated like garbage. My head is even messed up i dont know if its all related but i would love to know cause i cant think straight i fumble my words i lose track of what im saying in the middle talking,i fall into walls alot but other times i feel ok its so weird. I use to be full of energy busy all day long and now just a trip to walmart can wipe me out for the day. I spend most of my time in my bed as the recliner hurts most times,i cant lay on my stomach as it kills my back in ways i cant describe. So much i wanna say but im not a good at typing and its hard to focus. I need answers i need to be a father and husband again so if you have any info on where to look im all ears. My doc is a great doc he is new to me but without good insurance im not being taking seriously. I have my mri images and report and still get no where its sad and im lost as to what to do.

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Did you ever get surgery for your tarlov cysts?

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@ftrice

Hello everyone. I know some of these posts are a year or more old. But I thought I would post with some resources that I've found helpful over the last 6 weeks since my teenage daughter's MRI showed a Tarlov cyst at her S2, which seems to be causing nagging pain only at this point. Please ask to join a private Facebook group called the Tarlov Cyst Society of America. There are others, but this one in my humble opinion, is the most helpful. Don't delay. Join and start reading. The moderators are active in updating their files. There are articles. But most importantly, there are people who are living with this condition who have tried many things, some successfully and some not. I hope you find it as helpful as I do. You will find a list of physicians by state on this site as well.

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where are the list of physicians please?

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@mmcelman

where are the list of physicians please?

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I have perineurial cysts and pursued that cause for my neck pain, but was told they are too low to cause my neck pain. Here is what I found out.
There is a Tarlov Cyst organization, http://Tarlovcystfoundation.org
Someone actually answers the phone. You can send your MRI disk to a doc in Texas or in California and they will review it.

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@mmcelman

Did you ever get surgery for your tarlov cysts?

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I had surgery with doctor Frank Feigenbaum in Dallas Texas in 2013 for 5 sacral cysts. The surgery failed.
My sacral Tarlov cysts have changed my life. I was very active. Have tried PT, massage, accupuncture, I meditate, swim when I can, try to walk daily and rest often. Am going to start pain reprocessing therapy with Lin Health. I am hopeful they can help. It is an online very reputable therapy. I don’t want to go to more doctors. I have doctor PTSD.

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@kathy5645

I had surgery with doctor Frank Feigenbaum in Dallas Texas in 2013 for 5 sacral cysts. The surgery failed.
My sacral Tarlov cysts have changed my life. I was very active. Have tried PT, massage, accupuncture, I meditate, swim when I can, try to walk daily and rest often. Am going to start pain reprocessing therapy with Lin Health. I am hopeful they can help. It is an online very reputable therapy. I don’t want to go to more doctors. I have doctor PTSD.

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I am so sorry to hear this. I am on the fence about getting mine done locally here in Canada. It's a 50/50 thing.

Did any of the symptoms go away for you?

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