Pain Reprocessing Therapy to help and even eliminate chronic pain

Posted by menetski4 @menetski4, Jul 12 8:14am

Chronic pain is real no matter what the cause. What if you could reduce or even eliminate the pain with your positive thoughts. Sounds impossible but many, many people have been successful at this mind-body therapy, including myself. I want to shout it from the rooftops! This self-therapy dates back to the work of Dr John Sarno. Dr Howard Schubiner is one notable therapist that is working in this field of Medicine today. Here is a podcast, amongst others, that speaks to pain reprocessing therapy:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/our-power-is-within-heal-chronic-illness-pain/id1668678950?i=1000597134954

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@menetski4

Rachel, there is a comment later in this thread (terry 1976) that you may have info for. Is Mayo's Dr. Sletten and Pain Rehab Center program covered by insurance? Can it be conducted virtually/telemedicine?

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@menetski4, @terry1976
Yes, Mayo Clinic's Pain Rehab Center accepts insurance including Medicare, but it's best to inquire whether they accept your insurance first, then second whether your insurance will cover such program.

I did not have out of network coverage with my medicare plan, and lived in New York, so wasn't covered. I changed my supplemental plan the following year (cost a little more) to cover out of network, then was able to attend PRC in FL. Always best to inquire on both ends first and foremost. Here's a link to Mayo Clinic and contact information to inquire:

- http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63

The program itself cannot be conducted virtually or through telemedicine, however the pre-interviews with doctors to determine acceptance can be conducted virtually.

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@rwinney

@menetski4, @terry1976
Yes, Mayo Clinic's Pain Rehab Center accepts insurance including Medicare, but it's best to inquire whether they accept your insurance first, then second whether your insurance will cover such program.

I did not have out of network coverage with my medicare plan, and lived in New York, so wasn't covered. I changed my supplemental plan the following year (cost a little more) to cover out of network, then was able to attend PRC in FL. Always best to inquire on both ends first and foremost. Here's a link to Mayo Clinic and contact information to inquire:

- http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63

The program itself cannot be conducted virtually or through telemedicine, however the pre-interviews with doctors to determine acceptance can be conducted virtually.

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Thank you for this valuable information. I hope many can take advantage of this offering at Mayo Clinic.
Many have been able to resolve their chronic pain by use of many free online resources on pain reprocessing therapy, including myself, but it is good to know that help like this is available for those that benefit from personal care.

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Anyone successfully practicing pain reprocessing therapy? Let us hear your story…

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@menetski4

Thanks for the info, Rachel. I did not know that Mayo Clinic was offered this therapy. It is wonderful to know there is a center to refer people.
I have been able to accomplish this therapy on my own with the help of Dr Sarno’s books, listening to a lot of podcasts. Plus, I am a retired RN and a Functional Medicine Health Coach. So I understand the power of neuro plasticity and reframing neuro pathways. A technique that I developed for myself is that I have named the pain wherever it occurs in my body. I call her “Trixie”. Every so often Trixie gets out of the barn (my brain) and starts stirring up a ruckus causing pain in my body. I don’t treat Trixie with disdain. Instead I acknowledge her by name, because no one likes to be ignored. I coax her back in the barn with some deep breathing. Follow with thoughts of gratitude and affirmation and ‘voila’ the pain is gone. Sounds crazy but it works for me after years of chronic pain.
I have also had headaches for a 30+ years. I don’t say I am a ‘headache sufferer’ because that is such a victim mentality. I name headache pain “Pixie” and with the same technique I have been able to get her to stop stomping around and abort the headache in the aura phase. I will have to medicate if the headache gets too bad, but I have cut my usage of medication more than half. I’m still working on it.
I am glad to see that Mayo Clinic promotes; movement (exercise), nutrition, sleep, stress management, and useful purposement in their therapy. These are the foundational principles of Functional Medicine. Without them the therapy is a little harder, but not impossible.
By the way, my brother named his chronic pain “Mr. Pain”. My husband named his recurrent pain “Volver”. Both have eliminated their long-standing pain.

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Great share!
I think that Mayo may be at the start of a great relationship of "Movement Sciences" beyond the therapeutic physical therapy. As an exercise physiologist, I have been watching to see that human movement is taken as the necessary for life perspective. It is evolving.

Funny about those names. My favorite: Gone (literally).

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@menetski4

Anyone successfully practicing pain reprocessing therapy? Let us hear your story…

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I was introduced to the program at Mayo Clinic but chose not to get on their wait list at that time. What I did do was work with a social worker (who had worked with Mayo) in developing a program that is similar to what Mayo does. No, it is not the same intensity or with all of the therapists, but it did help me towards my PTSD that I have had since early childhood - which had also been holding me back. Pain comes in many forms. Emotional can be as devastating as physical.

I am a trained yoga, swimming, and tai chi instructor and an exercise physiologist. Using the breathing along with these modalities and a few others are very calming. There is also a cognitive processing program that you can engage in (requires little strenuous physical movement) whereby you learn how your body moves and understand where pain is and how to modulate it.

I always like to say that when I got busy, I got better!

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@annshrader

Great share!
I think that Mayo may be at the start of a great relationship of "Movement Sciences" beyond the therapeutic physical therapy. As an exercise physiologist, I have been watching to see that human movement is taken as the necessary for life perspective. It is evolving.

Funny about those names. My favorite: Gone (literally).

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Great name for your pain/agitator-Gone!

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@menetski4

Thanks for the info, Rachel. I did not know that Mayo Clinic was offered this therapy. It is wonderful to know there is a center to refer people.
I have been able to accomplish this therapy on my own with the help of Dr Sarno’s books, listening to a lot of podcasts. Plus, I am a retired RN and a Functional Medicine Health Coach. So I understand the power of neuro plasticity and reframing neuro pathways. A technique that I developed for myself is that I have named the pain wherever it occurs in my body. I call her “Trixie”. Every so often Trixie gets out of the barn (my brain) and starts stirring up a ruckus causing pain in my body. I don’t treat Trixie with disdain. Instead I acknowledge her by name, because no one likes to be ignored. I coax her back in the barn with some deep breathing. Follow with thoughts of gratitude and affirmation and ‘voila’ the pain is gone. Sounds crazy but it works for me after years of chronic pain.
I have also had headaches for a 30+ years. I don’t say I am a ‘headache sufferer’ because that is such a victim mentality. I name headache pain “Pixie” and with the same technique I have been able to get her to stop stomping around and abort the headache in the aura phase. I will have to medicate if the headache gets too bad, but I have cut my usage of medication more than half. I’m still working on it.
I am glad to see that Mayo Clinic promotes; movement (exercise), nutrition, sleep, stress management, and useful purposement in their therapy. These are the foundational principles of Functional Medicine. Without them the therapy is a little harder, but not impossible.
By the way, my brother named his chronic pain “Mr. Pain”. My husband named his recurrent pain “Volver”. Both have eliminated their long-standing pain.

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Congratulations for the work you've done on your own with the help of Dr. Sarno's book, podcasts and your desire. You definitely had a leg up given your field of training, but still you had to persevere and apply your knowledge. I'd say buying in and believing in the process of re-training our brain is half the battle. One of Mayo PRC's mottos (and there are many 😉) was, "trust me now, believe me later". It sure takes a lot of work and commitment, but pays off once you include the 4 pillars of - physical, emotional, behavioral and chemical as a comprehensive blueprint and plan for the whole being.

How great that you've been able to cut your meds. I think it's important to acknowledge that goals are to at least reduce and hopefully remove while learning other tools for pain management. Kudos on your continued quest!

My process was slow and steady after graduating PRC. It helped to check in with my family and ask how they saw my progress because often I did not see it. For instance, did I reduce exhibiting pain behaviors by not talking about pain or rubbing painful areas? Having an accountability partner helps, as long as they understand how the process works and are supportive of your goals.

Trixie and Pixie, huh?! I love it! Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing insight on how our brains, aka computer command centers, can be our most powerful tool in symptom management. Do you have any other tidbits that have helped you along your way?

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Well…thanks for asking. I do have one more practice that helps me immensely. I have a mantra that I use as kind of a meditative practice and to get me into a parasympathetic state. It is, “Love, Peace, and, Joy!” It goes like this…
Breathe in on ‘Love’
Breathe out on ‘Peace’
Breathe in on ‘and’
Breathe out with slow breath on ‘Joy’
I have practiced this so often that I can usually put myself back to sleep within three cycles.

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BTW I like "trust me now, believe me later". So often when I am trying to explain pain reprocessing therapy I say “trust me, I’m not crazy” I like your saying much better! Hope you don’t mind if I use it too.

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I am stunned so many of you have made this real pain that you have just disappear. I live in a real world where you can’t wish real things away. Glad this works for so many of you.

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