overwhelmed by so much (often conflicting) info on natural approaches

Posted by swuelfing1 @swuelfing1, Dec 3, 2023

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone else feels overwhelmed when researching what to do about dealing with osteoporosis naturally. There is so much good info out there which is great. It's just that often it gets sooo detailed such as in the area of supplements that it gets confusing or just overwhelming to decide what to do and narrow it down to a feasible plan. Also there are certain topics that there's controversy about - like yes/no on dairy, if dairy then which dairy, oxylates?, correct exercise? correct supplements, too much calcium? As you research you find several very credible and trustworthy resources who still disagree on so many topics. You could endlessly research and go down rabbitholes on every topic. Has anyone figured out any strategies to keep things manageable and decide what to do?

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For what this is worth, I just had my first appointment at Herself Health in the Twin Cities Metro. It's a clinic that specializes in the health of women over 60. I was amazed by the knowledge of my PA, who will be my regular contact there. She prescribed transvaginal estrogen for me, in the interest of my bones and sexual health. I had stellar results on a Dexa scan after having used this in 2020, and am really looking forward to trying it again. It's my understanding that hormone therapy is the primary drug of choice in Europe for Osteoporosis. I think finding a supporting and knowledgable doctor with current information is challenging, and very helpful! So if you live in the Cities, I highly recommend Herself Health. I know there are people for whom both HRT, and this clinic, are not an option, but all my stars seem aligned. Good luck to you, it IS confusing out there!!!

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@cpd54

Back then all that was recommended supplement wise was Calcium. I’m
Not even sure they had started recommending D3 with it. I do remember I took Citracal. All I did was cut sugar from
My diet, started practicing yoga and walked 4 miles daily on a treadmill at an incline.
Now I try to get
Calcium- (citrate or malate)1000 mg daily
Vit D- 5000 IU ( I was significantly deficient)
B complex
Magnesium 320-500 daily (ratio of 2:1 to calcium)
Vit K2- MK7 180 mcg
Boron- 3 mg
Copper- .9 mg
Zinc- 15 mg
Manganese- 1.8 to 23 mg
Selenium- 55 mcg
I also take Vitamn A. The Holy Trinity is supposed to be A, D3 and K2 to get the calcium to your bones and not your arteries. The fat soluble vitamins concern me since they can be toxic if you take more than your body needs. So I skip days taking them. May not be the correct thing to do but it gives me peace of mind.
I’ve just added MBP Bone Renew to the list. Dr Doug Lucas (YouTube him. Retired orthopedic surgeon) recommends this.
I don’t like exercising for exercise sake so I got 2 Jack Russell puppies. Right now I’m getting all the required exercise working with them 😂

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Thank you for posting your supplement regimen. Do you take most of them in a multi or separately? Also how much Vitamin A are you taking and which kind (beta-carotene vs retinol)? I read that Vitamin A is tricky (can't have too much or too little).

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@madhub140

Congratulations on doing your own research re the pharmaceutical industry. The damage some of these osteoporosis drugs do to our bodies is somewhat shocking. And because many of us have trusted our doctors (who know very little re nutritional education and natural healing because there is huge profit for themselves in NOT knowing), we continue taking them experiencing the results of the damage done. (And in this forum one can read about that damage done through Boniva, Fosamax and Reclast.) But if people do their research they will find the truth of what it is that can rebuild bones. And that we don't need to be at the mercy of Big Pharma and our doctors telling us that bones can only be maintained using these powerful meds. We live in a society that has been hoodwinked into believing that a natural alternative is only new age nonsense. Check out Barbara O'Neil and Dr Susan Brown who offer proven studies and suggestions indicating otherwise.

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madhub140 I agree with you. I just watched a podcast by a seasoned doctor who described med school as a place for MEMORIZATION. Memorize protocols and memorize standard method of treatment. They don't learn the mechanics of diseases or the mechanisms of the drugs that treat it. I'll wager that most of them never read any studies on the drugs they prescribe. I know my doctor does not.

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@mariegroh

madhub140 I agree with you. I just watched a podcast by a seasoned doctor who described med school as a place for MEMORIZATION. Memorize protocols and memorize standard method of treatment. They don't learn the mechanics of diseases or the mechanisms of the drugs that treat it. I'll wager that most of them never read any studies on the drugs they prescribe. I know my doctor does not.

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Check out patientrevolution.org

They are working on making changes

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@mariegroh

madhub140 I agree with you. I just watched a podcast by a seasoned doctor who described med school as a place for MEMORIZATION. Memorize protocols and memorize standard method of treatment. They don't learn the mechanics of diseases or the mechanisms of the drugs that treat it. I'll wager that most of them never read any studies on the drugs they prescribe. I know my doctor does not.

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So you seem to know better than the medical schools of our great nation on how doctors should be educated? There are pharmacists who specialize in that and they are always fail able for docs to consult with. Your doctor is not expected to know everything there is to know about everything in medicine. And if that is your expectation good luck on finding a provider you can trust according to your standards.

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I'd like to chime in about the original post which talked about being overwhelmed by information. At first, I diligently researched quite a bit and learned things. Then, at some point I simply became extremely overwhelmed and had to take a vacay from this kind of reading etc. Now I am going to pick it up again.

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I want women to think twice about the "natural" way. My friend was told she had osteopenia and was given some choices, all of which she rejected and tried to supplement on her own with diet and supplements. That was several years ago. Now she is dealing with small fractures in her spine due to decline over the years of calcium.
She was concerned with the side effects of some of the drugs offered to her at the time. I just opted for a once a year infusion for my osteopenia. I was also told to eat 2 Calcium soft chews per day. I'm hoping that will be enough. Time will tell.

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