Osteoporosis and Melatonin

Posted by jmanj @jmanj, Jul 23, 2022

I’m reading research that indicates using Melatonin helps to build bone. Indications are that using 1mg nightly improves density at the Femoral Neck, and 3mg nightly improves density in the Lumbar Spine. Searching the archives, I see other members have made passing comments about Melatonin to improve bone density. If something so simple and inexpensive helps, it would be a blessing to so many who are dealing with Osteoporosis, or who have been diagnosed as Osteopenic.

- Melatonin improves bone mineral density at the femoral neck in postmenopausal women with osteopenia: a randomized controlled trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26036434/
- Melatonin Osteoporosis Prevention Study (MOPS) https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01152580

Does anyone have specific experience with this?

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In two seconds I found this ( I found a lot of sites on both sides of this question):

The relevance of melatonin in partially or wholly restoring optimal function, in a series of disorders related to immune dysfunction, is addressed in this report. This includes the potential relief of both autoimmune diseases and many other ailments involving abnormal immune responses, including the overall diminished effectiveness of body defenses occurring with aging.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32651969

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In two seconds I found this ( I found a lot of sites on both sides of this question):

The relevance of melatonin in partially or wholly restoring optimal function, in a series of disorders related to immune dysfunction, is addressed in this report. This includes the potential relief of both autoimmune diseases and many other ailments involving abnormal immune responses, including the overall diminished effectiveness of body defenses occurring with aging.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32651969

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I clicked on the link but can only read the Summary. How does one get access to read the complete study and results?

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I clicked on the link but can only read the Summary. How does one get access to read the complete study and results?

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@jmanj sorry I assumed the article was accessible and just provided the abstract. You can google "melatonin autoimmune disorders," "melatonin inflammation," "melatonin lupus (or whatever your disorder is)" and see the diversity in opinion that I found. Some sites say that melatonin causes flares, but some say it is an anti-inflammatory. I didn't have any problems with it myself.

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I clicked on the link but can only read the Summary. How does one get access to read the complete study and results?

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In the upper right of the abstract page is a little box that says "Full Article". This is the link it provides: https://www.eurekaselect.com/article/108067
But it looks like it is not free. So, I searched and will post the link to the full study as soon as I confirm it's completeness because it looks interesting.
Sue

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@tsc there are several articles on melatonin and autoimmune diseases that suggest it is beneficial, then I also see sites that say melatonin should be avoided because it causes flares. There also seem to be differences between specific disorders on this.

Here is one pro-melatonin study (2013) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3709754/

I have lupus and take it so I wanted to look into it. I will research further!

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Hi @windyshores, I don't have any trouble sleeping now. I took a lot of melatonin in the past, before I was diagnosed with PMR, and it didn't help me sleep. I kept taking it, hoping it would. I'm down to 1.5 mg of Prednisone now and doing well. I'm consciously avoiding anything that would invite a flare up. Wishing you the best, @tsc.

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I have a slightly different question. Is there such a thing as prescription melatonin so it falls under FDA quality and stability standards? Or 'real' non-synthetic melatonin?

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Here is the most recent analysis I could find of the various studies done in the past few years: "Melatonin effects on bone: Implications for use as a therapy for managing bone loss." The full article is here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jpi.12749
I waded through it, and the findings look promising, but need further research. Here was the author's conclusion:
"3 CONCLUSION
Osteoporosis is a significant economic burden comparable or greater than that of a range of chronic noncommunicable diseases (ie, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, and hypertension).79 The mortality risk related to hip fracture for a 50-year-old woman is 2.8%, which is equivalent to her risk of death from breast cancer and four times higher from endometrial cancer.79 As in women, the mortality rate in men after hip fracture increases with age (even more than women) and is highest in the year after a fracture.79, 84 The mortality rate in men approximately doubled over the first 6 months compared with that in similarly aged women.79, 84

The uniqueness of melatonin as a molecule, which ranges from effects on melatonin (MT2) receptor-mediated osteoblastogenesis through MAPK/Wnt-beta catenin pathways,21 to osteoclast-mediated inhibitory effects through direct151, 173 or indirect (osteoblast-mediated RANKL) melatonin actions,119 to antioxidant properties through mitochondrial melatonin receptors22, 23 or through melatonin's direct actions on mitochondrial membranes,23 induction of antioxidant enzymes, and/or free radical scavenging,18, 26-28, 40, 113, 219-222, 235, 236 makes it an ideal if not essential molecule to promote bone health. The recent discovery of mitochondrial melatonin receptors22, 23 provides fertile ground for future research in understanding their role in melatonin-mediated processes in the body “in general” but especially in bone. These properties of melatonin coupled with its actions on the immune system, circadian entrainment, quality of life, safety profile, and cost284 argues strongly for its use clinically to slow the progression of bone loss in “at risk” populations (eg, aging population, menopausal women, RA, shift workers) or augment bone mass in those with osteopenia, osteoporosis or who have suffered a fragility fracture."

So...what does this mean for us? Well, for most people, it would appear that a small nightly dose of melatonin (3mg) could be helpful, if they have or are trying to prevent osteopenia. Not as clear if one already has osteoporosis, and there is no analysis or study I can find about adding melatonin to supplement other osteoporosis treatment. My bone scores are pretty good for my age (over 70), size and family history. But several family members developed severe osteoporosis in their late 80's. So I will probably add melatonin to my regimen after I run it past my PCP.

Do you already have a diagnosis of osteoporosis? Are you taking medication already?
Sue

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I've been taking Melatonin for years but not in regards to my Osteoporosis. This is great news! My recent Dexascan showed an improvement of 10% over the previous year after 12 months of Evenity. I was lucky to have no serious side effects and now I'm at a cross roads as far as what to take next. I had a reaction to Forteo years ago which is making me gun shy as far as any long term infusion treatment. But while I weigh my options I'll be taking my sleep gummies!

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Sue - Thank you for your additional research! Yes, I have Osteoporosis (age 67), and continue to look at anything that might help “hold the line”.

I used Forteo for two years and had 12% increase in spine and 5% in hips. Then followed with a Reclast infusion. My Dexa results this year showed some additional slight improvement in Lumbar Spine (now -1.9, improved from -3 in 2019), but the Femoral Neck is stuck at -2.6. Not sure if I’ll do Reclast again this year, or try something else.

Jill

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There's evidence that 60 grams of prunes a day helps to maintain bone density, and 100 grams increases it. A study showed that Jarlsberg cheese which contains a variety of K vitamins, helps to maintain bone density.

My Dexa results improved from osteoporosis to osteopenia without medication. However, I'm concerned that my lumbar spine needs to improve, so I'm drinking alkaline water.

Studies about the two foods and water would be listed on Google Scholar.

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There's evidence that 60 grams of prunes a day helps to maintain bone density, and 100 grams increases it. A study showed that Jarlsberg cheese which contains a variety of K vitamins, helps to maintain bone density.

My Dexa results improved from osteoporosis to osteopenia without medication. However, I'm concerned that my lumbar spine needs to improve, so I'm drinking alkaline water.

Studies about the two foods and water would be listed on Google Scholar.

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I was just diagnosed with osteoporosis and the choice of Fosomax along with supplemenal calcium, zinc, magnesium and A&K vitamins. Plus resistance exercise and walking. Any ideas?

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Hello,

First, I'm sorry about your diagnosis; and second, yes, I have ideas!

Margaret Martin's Exercise for Better Bones book and her website, https://melioguide.com/, have both been beneficial. I would read cited research on Google Scholar, and books with high reviews about osteporsis.

I take 1,000-2,000 IU of vitamin D supplements, Align, TruNature Women's Daily Probiotic (multi-strains of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium may help), melatonin, lactoferrin, and specifically, magnesium glycinate for my bone health. (Some people take micronutrients, and I eat prunes.) I aim to consume 10 grams of prunes, 57 grams of Jarlsberg, and high pH alkaline water daily. I strive to drink no more than two 8-ounce cups of coffee, no soft drinks, no alcohol (except for Communion), and I might try low-acid coffee. I need to limit sugar consumption again!

"Research consistently shows that our bodies absorb calcium most efficiently in individual doses of about 500 mg or less at a time." I avoid calcium supplements due to concerns over their potential cardiovascular risks. Taking calcium supplements instead of eating it in food can also lower its impact on building bones, reduce absorption of other nutrients, and cause side effects like constipation or kidney stones.

"Calcium in fermented dairy intake is linked to higher bone mineral density (BMD), better bone mass accrual, and a lower risk of fractures in adults, especially postmenopausal women."

I stomp my feet on a sidewalk as if crushing a can for my hips. The Cleveland Clinic suggests 4 times twice a day (https://health.clevelandclinic.org/the-best-workouts-for-osteoporosis), although I do more at a time. If your osteoporosis is very severe, I would check with my doctor first. I've asked for physical therapy referrals more than once to address my bones.

I may start retaking two kinds of collagen and increase my protein intake.

Your question reminds me to get back on track! I've never taken medication for osteoporosis, and I want to avoid it.

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