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Has anyone found an exercise based program proven to work?

Posted by ans @ans, Jan 21 7:15am

To All-Very important information shared by Belinda Beck from- theboneclinic- goggle that- based in Australia- yesterday in the Osteoporosis Summit that has been sited here going on this week. The Liftmor trials, which she was in charge of , has been tracking people for over 10 years put a program into place called Onero, based on that thinking and the results are in and impressive. It works to improve bone mass. It's based on HiRIT -( I believe the acronym is to denote High Intensity Resistance Impact Training). It can be safe and effective led BY PEOPLE that have been trained. She emphasized NOT to do these exercises without SUPERVISION. Sherri Betz's exercise programs are built off this thinking. Beck said to grow bone you need specific, targeted training. They watched people over many years in the Liftmor trials and then went one step further to set up a clinic in the real world to test it out . As she explained, its based on one lifting 85% of what you can lift in one repetition. So that is a lot, but everyone is different. For one it might mean starting with a broom stick , for another it could mean 2o lbs or more. The program is individualized for each person. Each person receives a 2 1/2 hr baseline assessment. A very important thing she commented on that at first they were confused about was why the femoral neck didn't change the BMD score much- but hot off the press this week- they have a 3-D testing device in their clinic and it revealed that the thickness of the cortex increased particularly where the femoral neck fracture usually starts. and further the proximal head of the femur cortex gets thicker along with the trabeculae . so therefore the shape of the bones improve and there's increased internal hip support. She did go over some of the basic criteria to do this Onero program , but I won't bore you with those details , except to say that most people can participate in this treatment. I will direct you to go to a podcast with Margie Bissinger PT where she interviews Dr. Claudia Tamas, she is an Onero trained clinician that heads up a medical clinic in NJ. This information is new and there are very few clinics in the US that offer this . So get out there and talk about it, maybe share this info with your general dr, endo, PT office, etc. so it can begin to be offered in more places!!! That was a lot , but hope that this gives you all some hope!! Beck said they are changing the idea that instead of meds, exercise can be the first line of defense against osteoporosis issues!! Good Luck to all on your own path!

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babs10 | @babs10 | May 28 7:20am
In reply to @tetris "@ans I purchase the 5-class pack, which is $60. Her unlimited subscription (classes+video library) is $99..." + (show)
@tetris

@ans I purchase the 5-class pack, which is $60. Her unlimited subscription (classes+video library) is $99 or $119 month, depending if monthly subscription is continuous or just one time. There’s also a video-library-access-only subscription ($49 or $59 per month, depending), and a $19 one-time class pass. HTH!

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@tetris, it IS helpful! Have you done other than the 5 class pack? I'd love to know what you recommend. Thank you for posting the link - I'm not sure I'd ever have found it on my own. LOL.

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awesomemomx2 | @awesomemomx2 | Jun 8 4:59pm

I had mentioned Onero. to a Mayorga Dr. in Rochester hoping they would explore this several months ago. But haven't heard back. It is not Belinda's online program. The Onero we want requires a PT to run it. I have severe osteoporosis. I lift weights,but feel I need a program that is supervised by a PT that does all that Belinda recommends. We need more people to talk about it. I looked at the cost to be licensed. It is not cheap, so it has to be done by a group such as Rochester that could pull in alot of folks and has clout. If anyone is a Mayo patient please talk this up. We need them to take the lead on this. In addition they are a research hospital which is even better. I have talked with my local Mayo PT in a southwest MN clinic she would be interested but funding is a challenge. Our insurance providers need to be on board has well. It has to be a ground up movement. Osteoporosis is a life long condition that needs support by non pharmaceutical strategies. This is a proven one. Please help to get this program known and desired.

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babs10 | @babs10 | Jun 14 1:08pm

Dr. Beck, creator of Onero, presented for OsteoBoston on June 10th. Here is the replay:


This is a Q and A that followed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvztch1bH68

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edwinabutterfly | @edwinabutterfly | Jun 17 7:38pm

Their website says they work with those who have mild to moderate osteoporosis. Mine is severe so I hope they make exceptions!

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awesomemomx2 | @awesomemomx2 | Jun 18 4:51pm
In reply to @hopefullibrarian "Hi ans, By perpetual fee, I mean that for as long as they are offering the..." + (show)
@hopefullibrarian

Hi ans, By perpetual fee, I mean that for as long as they are offering the Onero program, they have to pay a monthly fee, so it's ongoing.
I just found the pricing page for providers and I think it's in Australian dollars (AUD). If that's the case then it's not as bad as it first appears. That would mean it's $150 AUD + GST (goods and services tax of 10%) = $165 AUD. At the current exchange rate that equals $105 USD.
Providers also have to renew their Onero license every year. It requires a quality assurance check and remittance of an additional fee.
You can have a look at the pricing structure here: https://onero.academy/pricing/
Just scroll down to the FAQs at the bottom of the page, and click on the 'Fees' tab.

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That is the cost for the practitioner. I am interested in knowing what the cost is each month or yearly cost to be the client? Can anyone tell me that? Belinda has such good results. It works for so many even if you have other issues. The testing also seems thorough. Clients do need to know their cost though. Hopefully, someone can tell me. Thanks

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wynn00001 | @wynn00001 | Sep 26 4:31pm

I had no luck finding a physio to supervise me in Onero, and I couldn't wait for it to come to Canada while I watched my bone density decrease steadily. I began a program called Starting Strength six months ago. It uses four exercises, squat, deadlift, overhead press and bench press. I had an Echolight bone scan just before I started and had another one today. I'm amazed at the results. I'm no longer osteoporotic, I've made it back to osteopenia. L2 went from -3.6 to -1.6 in just six months. No meds, no strontium, no HRT, just heavy weights and careful, one-on-one coaching. The downside - it's expensive. But I expect Onero will also be expensive in North America.

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rhonda687 | @rhonda687 | Sep 27 7:16am
In reply to @wynn00001 "I had no luck finding a physio to supervise me in Onero, and I couldn't wait..." + (show)
@wynn00001

I had no luck finding a physio to supervise me in Onero, and I couldn't wait for it to come to Canada while I watched my bone density decrease steadily. I began a program called Starting Strength six months ago. It uses four exercises, squat, deadlift, overhead press and bench press. I had an Echolight bone scan just before I started and had another one today. I'm amazed at the results. I'm no longer osteoporotic, I've made it back to osteopenia. L2 went from -3.6 to -1.6 in just six months. No meds, no strontium, no HRT, just heavy weights and careful, one-on-one coaching. The downside - it's expensive. But I expect Onero will also be expensive in North America.

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This is helpful. I am in Ontario Canada so will look for this program.

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osteoresearch | @osteoresearch | Sep 27 7:57am

Can you send a website link to this program?

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osteoresearch | @osteoresearch | Sep 27 3:32pm

Thank you so much! There is one I’m going to check out tomorrow!

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