New to Pegasys for ET - advice please!

Posted by lourdene @lourdene, Dec 23, 2022

Hello, I am a 67 year old woman who was diagnosed with ET 30 years ago through a bone marrow biopsy. I have had no symptoms and no clotting events and have only been on 81 aspirin. My platelets were 900 at diagnosis at have stabilized in the 500s. Recently I visited a hematologist and found I have Jack2. He prescribed HU 500 mg daily. I panicked when I read it is a chemotherapy and sought a second opinion at the Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. There the doctor I saw suggested Pegasus, given my fear of starting HU for life. I am waiting to receive it. Any suggestions, especially for using one vial for 4 weeks given the high co-pay?

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@eileen11108

I understand your fear. I am 78 and was just diagnosed June 2022 through extensive labs and bone marrow biopsy. I have ET JAK2.

The hematologist put me on 500 mg Hydroxyurea daily. I started getting daily headaches and a first ever vertigo attack. Hematologist told me to stop HU for a few weeks while I saw ENT. I had various negative tests so she started me back on HU 500 mg every other day. I think my body is starting to adjust to HU. Last lab my platelets were 498. I see her on January 3. I am hoping I can continue on every other day.

There is a lot of information on Pegasys on this website. Good luck with your decision, Eileen

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Hi lourdene,

Are you taking Pegasys? What is your experience so far? Are you starting with low dose, frequency?

Just an update on Hydroxyurea and my headaches. I have been having daily headaches and twice they went to a migraine. I am starting to find it difficult dealing with the headaches and think I possibly might be HU intolerant.

I am out of our home area for a couple months. I will discuss the possibility of Pegasys with my hematologist on our return and also look to get an appointment with an MPN specialist.

Best wishes, Eileen

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I brought up the subject of Pegasys when I just saw my hematologist. I live in a suburb of Philadelphia, She said I could not self inject. I would have to come to their office each time. It is a 40 minute ride each way.

Does anyone have to do this? Also, I have Medicare, Blue Cross supplement and a very good drug plan. Will this be covered?

Thanks, Eileen

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@eileen11108

I brought up the subject of Pegasys when I just saw my hematologist. I live in a suburb of Philadelphia, She said I could not self inject. I would have to come to their office each time. It is a 40 minute ride each way.

Does anyone have to do this? Also, I have Medicare, Blue Cross supplement and a very good drug plan. Will this be covered?

Thanks, Eileen

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@eileen11108 according to this article from Mayo Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/peginterferon-alfa-2a-subcutaneous-route/proper-use/drg-20067318 " You may be taught how to give this medicine at home. "

Maybe @mortysdad @lourdene @treeore can share more information about Pegasys being administered in clinical office setting or by self-injection at home.

Did your hematologist explain why she did not recommend self-injection for you?

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@colleenyoung

@eileen11108 according to this article from Mayo Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/peginterferon-alfa-2a-subcutaneous-route/proper-use/drg-20067318 " You may be taught how to give this medicine at home. "

Maybe @mortysdad @lourdene @treeore can share more information about Pegasys being administered in clinical office setting or by self-injection at home.

Did your hematologist explain why she did not recommend self-injection for you?

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Hello, I self-inject at home. I was a little apprehensive at first, but watched a YouTube video. After a couple of weeks it was nothing. No one at the Moffit Cancer Center, where I go, even suggested having it administered by a medical professional.

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My health is a bit like that of Lourdene's--65 years old, long time high platelets but diagnosed with ET then PV last year, JAK2 positive, disinclined to do HU. I started with Besremi last spring. The clinic made the mistake, Medicare wise, of injecting me in their clinic. Big bill they ended up eating, after much stress and letter writing on my side. After 6 shots, my HCT and even platelets were a good deal better, but my liver enzymes rose too high. I stopped and was off all summer because of the enormous cost of the drug, even with a plan d Medicare. I applied for financial aide from the company, and after a few months of back and forth challenges, I got the go ahead at least for three months of the stuff. I did my first self injection yesterday, which was OK though stressful. My poor reading vision made seeing the 100 mcg line difficult once the plunger was all the way up there, so I over shot the mark, and probably only got 70 mcg this first time. I hate the fussiness of the whole procedure. Following the instructions, I held the needle upright while adjusting dose and the creepy drug sprayed down all over my hand. I've asked the FDA why the company is allowed to produce only one, BIG size "portion" so that most of it must be wasted each time. Their answer to be was nonsense: we follow our own guidelines and don't care about waste, was the gist of it. The govt SHOULD worry about the expense of that wasted material, but all one can do is write a letter and try to sway the powers that be.

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@nohrt4me

Not sure if this is standard of care nationwide, but most acute cancer patients get counseling before going on infused chemo. BUT if you are going on HU and you ask for a session with the chemo nurse in my health care system, they laugh in your face. (Literally happened to me.) I had a FB page for ET patients for awhile, and this experience was common.

As a result, you get a lot of scared patients reluctant to take HU. When you look at the package info or look up stuff on the Internet, that's also scary. If doctors want more compliant patients they need to provide more compassionate and clear education.

If you can afford it and your doc is willing to prescribe Peg, I say try it. It is certainly better than running a stroke risk. If you find you dislike the Peg side effects, you can fall back on HU.

In my case, I bit the bullet, took the HU, and, five years in, remain on a low dose with good platelet levels. I'm 68, my hair and nails are fine, I am not nauseated, no side effects to speak of. And I have not had a stroke or clot.

But I get why people are scared, and info from the cancer clinics needs to improve. (And don't think I haven't told my clinic that ...)

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Hi, how much is Pegasus? What are the side effects and criteria to take it? Insurance covers it?
Many ppl say anyone with a blood disorder should see a MPN Specialist, I want to. Do you know anything about this?

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@healedbytheblood0119

Hi, how much is Pegasus? What are the side effects and criteria to take it? Insurance covers it?
Many ppl say anyone with a blood disorder should see a MPN Specialist, I want to. Do you know anything about this?

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Last I heard, Peg was about $1,200 per month. Copays vary widely by insurance co. Call your pharmacy. They can tell you what Peg would cost you if yr doc prescribed it based on yr coverage. I have rec'd very good care from my hematologist at our regional medical center 30 minutes away. I could get a referral to the big university center's MPN experts if I needed to, but I have been well controlled, no clots, and have had the standard bone marrow and genetic tests. So I don't think a consult with an MPN specialist is crucial. But if you have GP who is trying to wing it or an internist who is not doing standard testing and monitoring, I would ask for a consult. Good luck!

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@treeore

Lourdene, I'm in an almost identical position to you, having had high platelets for decades but just this fall diagnosed with JAK 2. I've been stalling, as I am fairly symptom free at present, and I wanted a Christmas and birthday season without the weight of deciding or stress of experiencing new drugs. A recent second opinion also convinced me that I had to take one of the less than perfect "medications" for the condition. The Mayo doctor I saw said it might be a good idea, since ingesting chemo products repels me, to try interferon. I will look into the cost and see if my local doc is amenable. The Mayo doc said that interferon has the advantage of disrupting JAK2's disruption in the marrow, as well as stopping further disease progression, if taken at moderate doses at least two years past reaching a maintenance ideal point for both hemocrit and platelets. My understanding is that Interferon will work more slowly, but that slow and steady is an advantage if you can hack the side effects. I will certainly try to keep up with your posts. I'll add my experience in the new year.

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Update! I started on Besremi in 2023, being injected in the clinic. I'm on Medicare Traditional in the US. After a few months my liver enzymes went too high as my HCT and platelets improved. (I seem to get fast reactions to this drug.) I went off the drug when I found out the clinic was not supposed to be injecting since Medicare said Besremi should be patient-injected. I had to maneuver politely but firmly to get a $120,000 bill off my shoulders, as I had accepted it understanding Medicare B and G would cover it in the clinic setting. Ultimately, the clinic kindly swallowed the expense, as it was their mistake. All last summer, as my platelets climbed back up to over a million, I worked on getting the manufacturer's financial aide. Savings and investments you can have, but not sizeable regular income. I finally got accepted in the fall, and they paid for the drug through now, then passed it back to my doctor, who passed it on to Onco360. They or one of their connected offices called me to ask more financial questions. Now through them I'm covered for the year by a set of foundations/grants that help with expensive cancer drugs. I think my Plan D would have left me with $3300 due each year. I wish a fairer, more progressive tax system was in place to make universal healthcare an option for all of us here. In the meantime we have to negotiate the minefield (and mindfield!) of money while we endure the vicissitudes of our conditions.

The drug itself I remain very suspicious of, but as I said, my body reacts quickly to its work on the blood. My HCT remains in good zone, and my platelets quickly at first and now more slowly headed back to not far over the top acceptable zone. The doctor says when my levels stabilize for a few months we can consider lessening the 100 mcg dose. I will not go over the 100 mark as my liver was unhappy at 250-300 mcg. I hope to halve the dose or go down to once a month. My quality of life is very uneven with the drug and the PV. Insomnia, stomach disorder, and post nasal drip plague me, and the tiredness, while not stopping basic chores and blessings of life, stops me from pushing to do work that is meaningful and fulfilling but requires more vitality. What to blame for all this is a bit of a mystery. I no longer get visual migraines, but have had one heart pounding episode. (Stress test coming up soon.)

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@nohrt4me

Last I heard, Peg was about $1,200 per month. Copays vary widely by insurance co. Call your pharmacy. They can tell you what Peg would cost you if yr doc prescribed it based on yr coverage. I have rec'd very good care from my hematologist at our regional medical center 30 minutes away. I could get a referral to the big university center's MPN experts if I needed to, but I have been well controlled, no clots, and have had the standard bone marrow and genetic tests. So I don't think a consult with an MPN specialist is crucial. But if you have GP who is trying to wing it or an internist who is not doing standard testing and monitoring, I would ask for a consult. Good luck!

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Thanks for your comment. So Pegasus is about $1200 before insurance? Do they accept all insurances? I have BCross Advantage.

I’ll have to call BCross to ask. And my pharmacy.

I’m glad your Hema is doing what he’s supposed to.
I read bone marrow test are usually routine but mine only did genetic blood test and saw JAK2 mutation.
Is that normal? I mean trust me from what I’ve heard of how painful and bad bone marrow tests are I def rather not if don’t have to.

Yeah for me I need to get an MPN on board.
Even if my Hema was good regular Hema Onc don’t specialize in our issue, attend monthly and yearly conferences on it, stay up to date with progress and new meds, or work with many ppl like us.
Seems best chance to do well is MPN. Good luck to you too!

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@healedbytheblood0119

Thanks for your comment. So Pegasus is about $1200 before insurance? Do they accept all insurances? I have BCross Advantage.

I’ll have to call BCross to ask. And my pharmacy.

I’m glad your Hema is doing what he’s supposed to.
I read bone marrow test are usually routine but mine only did genetic blood test and saw JAK2 mutation.
Is that normal? I mean trust me from what I’ve heard of how painful and bad bone marrow tests are I def rather not if don’t have to.

Yeah for me I need to get an MPN on board.
Even if my Hema was good regular Hema Onc don’t specialize in our issue, attend monthly and yearly conferences on it, stay up to date with progress and new meds, or work with many ppl like us.
Seems best chance to do well is MPN. Good luck to you too!

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Bone marrow biopsy is helpful in assessing any fibrosis in the bone marrow, which indicates disease progress. (Remember, MPNs are bone marrow diseases at heart.) Provides a baseline against which future progress could be measured.

Some docs don't do BMBs because patients are afraid of them. I have had bee stings that were more painful than the BMB. It took about 10 minutes. They numb as they they go and dope you up with Xanax. However, A lot depends on how skilled the doc is.

Ask the doc's office if you can be put under and if your insurance covers that.

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