My legs collapsing underneath me without warning since I’ve been on ga

Posted by woody52 @woody52, May 10 1:31pm

Eight years ago I moved back to Wisconsin and during that time I noticed my hands shaking and enrolled at my old family hospital
I was prescribed Propaninal and within months it eliminated most of my hand shaking
About a year or so later I was in the same hospital network and had an emergency visit where they crated my chest and found a minor anuryism on my aorta
At that time my doctor stopped the propaninol and put me on gabapentin for my tremors
It took over a year to start helping with the ET’s in my hands
At about same time my back was aching terribly and saw orthopedic team at same hospital and they said gabapentin would relieve pain and increased dosage
At that time my legs would give out under me
Now my legs can’t navigate going down stairs without my collapsing of which I’ve done now over 6 times in last year
I walk 3-6 miles a day but with no confidence my legs will hold me up
I’m 72 snd 150lbs staying in very good shape
Until gabapentin
My legs collapsing underneath is increasing and it’s really affecting my life style
The propaninol worked but doctor switched me to gabapentin of which has crippled me in doing steps
And suggestions

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@woody52

Thank you
I’ve been walking 3-7 miles a day
Too early to tell if it’s helping but can’t hurt
Turmeric just arrived so I’m jumping on that
The ultrasound wand is very interesting I’ll check it out
Can’t wait to be off the G
It’s been 6 years
Thanks again

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I finally found a clinic with MD's and DO's, near me, who are now using the SOFTWAVE for treatments. I was so surprised to see actual Dr.s using it in their clinic. I have my first appointment in a couple of weeks. it's similar, i think, to the ultrasound wand i have been using, but, sounds like it is even better for regenerating legs etc. The Dr on the phone did say, it doesn't always work for every one, and their is no guarantee.........that was refreshing to hear, usually Dr.s say how much you will like it, and how happy you will be.....which is not always true............If insurance won't cover it, Soft Wave treatments are advertised all over the internet for $69 a treatment. BUT, i do not know if that is just for the first treatment........or for each one, or if their price changes for follow ups. $6 9 i think is very reasonable. If it doesn't help, at least you won't go broke checking out 3 or 4 treatments to see if it is helping enough to continue.......hit Google, type in something like where is a clinic that offers Softwave treatments ......then put in your city and st.......maybe you will find one. It doesn't have to be one with MDs, other people are trained in using the device.

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I had my legs collapse for years. No diagnosis, consulted many experts, tested for everything—I’m sure thousands of dollars billed to my insurance company. I researched extensively, tried a LOT of natural things. I finally figured out that my liver didn’t make enough glutathione. I took a lot of it, which helped, but it’s expensive. Now I take Milk Thistle (1-2 caps a day) plus eat dried apricots or peaches for copper (1-4 a day) and lots of greens (sometimes as spinach powder in my V8) some of which contain a bit of glutathione and all of which promote the liver making it more easily, and am a lot better. Read on the internet about Glutathione, or better, get a book on it. Doctors will likely never mention the word or know much about it, but it may be your answer to falling, even if you have another diagnosis. It’s natural and cannot hurt you (unless you were to take milk thistle in MASSIVE amounts or something stupid like that. If you’re worried about taking it, ask a doctor—they’ll look at you weird, but they’ll tell you it’s a natural substance and can't hurt you. It may not be your answer, but if it is, it will make you much less likely to fall, and help a lot of other things as well, since it is involved in a lot of bodily processes. Good luck!

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I’ve read the comments. I can’t see where anyone has yet asked the obvious question.
Have you had your B6 levels checked?
B6 toxicity can cause all of your symptoms.

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Thank you for your suggestion
Great idea
Just had my blood and lab work done for an upcoming physical
My B6 should easily traced
Thank you ever so much

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@again

I had my legs collapse for years. No diagnosis, consulted many experts, tested for everything—I’m sure thousands of dollars billed to my insurance company. I researched extensively, tried a LOT of natural things. I finally figured out that my liver didn’t make enough glutathione. I took a lot of it, which helped, but it’s expensive. Now I take Milk Thistle (1-2 caps a day) plus eat dried apricots or peaches for copper (1-4 a day) and lots of greens (sometimes as spinach powder in my V8) some of which contain a bit of glutathione and all of which promote the liver making it more easily, and am a lot better. Read on the internet about Glutathione, or better, get a book on it. Doctors will likely never mention the word or know much about it, but it may be your answer to falling, even if you have another diagnosis. It’s natural and cannot hurt you (unless you were to take milk thistle in MASSIVE amounts or something stupid like that. If you’re worried about taking it, ask a doctor—they’ll look at you weird, but they’ll tell you it’s a natural substance and can't hurt you. It may not be your answer, but if it is, it will make you much less likely to fall, and help a lot of other things as well, since it is involved in a lot of bodily processes. Good luck!

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Thank you
My glucose is at its upper safe levels or a tad over
I’ll discuss with my doc this week during yearly physical
Thank you big time

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I found your post interesting. If you don't mind me asking how did you understand about your liver and what was needed. I am not challenging you I just don't understand how a lay person could figure that out. I am trying to know what works and what doesn't. Having done as much investigating with all of the health professionals I would love to cut to the chase. Thanks in advance. Susan Cain

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@again

I had my legs collapse for years. No diagnosis, consulted many experts, tested for everything—I’m sure thousands of dollars billed to my insurance company. I researched extensively, tried a LOT of natural things. I finally figured out that my liver didn’t make enough glutathione. I took a lot of it, which helped, but it’s expensive. Now I take Milk Thistle (1-2 caps a day) plus eat dried apricots or peaches for copper (1-4 a day) and lots of greens (sometimes as spinach powder in my V8) some of which contain a bit of glutathione and all of which promote the liver making it more easily, and am a lot better. Read on the internet about Glutathione, or better, get a book on it. Doctors will likely never mention the word or know much about it, but it may be your answer to falling, even if you have another diagnosis. It’s natural and cannot hurt you (unless you were to take milk thistle in MASSIVE amounts or something stupid like that. If you’re worried about taking it, ask a doctor—they’ll look at you weird, but they’ll tell you it’s a natural substance and can't hurt you. It may not be your answer, but if it is, it will make you much less likely to fall, and help a lot of other things as well, since it is involved in a lot of bodily processes. Good luck!

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Looking back over my comment, I miswrote. I eat dried fruit for sulphur, not copper. Oops.

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@scain

I found your post interesting. If you don't mind me asking how did you understand about your liver and what was needed. I am not challenging you I just don't understand how a lay person could figure that out. I am trying to know what works and what doesn't. Having done as much investigating with all of the health professionals I would love to cut to the chase. Thanks in advance. Susan Cain

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I had a chiropractor who specialized in diabetes change my diet radically, and as a result got a lot of body pain. He told me to use a glutathione cream for the pain, which worked amazingly well. I used a lot of it over the next few months, then gradually stopped as the pain resolved. Years later, when I developed the legs collapsing thing, I happened to use the cream for another pain issue, and figured out over the next few months that I fell less while using glutathione cream and researched glutathione generally, including many bodily effects, how it is made in all cells, but mainly in the liver, what to do to boost the liver, what I had to have in my diet to make more of it, etc. I don’t think I’d have gotten there, except for the initial clue with the cream (which, by the way, costs about $100 for a little bottle). You can buy glutathione pills. I bought some powdered glutathione from Bulksupplements.com (again, very expensive) and experimented to make my own cream. Tried a dozen water- and oil-based substances and creams to mix it with, all unsuccessfully. It would just NOT mix smoothly with anything. I couldn’t afford to buy the $100 glutathione cream, at least enough to use to keep my legs from collapsing. Finally, I tried mixing it with hair conditioner on a whim. It worked. It is still the only thing I’ve found that it will mix with smoothly. If you want to try it, any cheap hair conditioner. The glutathione absorbs through the skin. It leaves a sticky film that then dries, semi-sticky. Not ideal, but it works. Anyway, the real answer, after all the research is to get your body to make it. Buy or if you can find one in a library, at least read a book about glutathione (one written for lay people—I bought a huge scientific book for over $100 and could make NO sense of it. I’m not that smart, just persistent and desperate.). Take milk thistle (the most commonly recommended liver stimulant) and from the book figure out what you need to eat for the liver to do its job. I use lots of greens (often powdered spinach and other veggies mixed in V8, if you can’t eat enough). I later read somewhere else in my research that sulfur is also needed, so I started eating dried, sulfured fruits—one of the few easy sources of sulfur, since that’s how they preserve peaches and apricots to dry so they don’t go black (which they do if they don’t sulfur them). Long story semi-short, if glutathione is the answer to your falling problem, as it is mine, take milk thistle and change your diet. If it helps a little, stick with it and it will eventually build up in your system and heal your liver so that you will eventually not have your legs collapse. You will still probably be clumsy and, if you trip, not be able to catch yourself as normally people do. I still take a fall now and then if I trip. But before I figured it all out, I fell literally thousands of times, mostly in the garden. If you rely on cream or pills, you will “burn through” the amount of glutathione quite quickly, fall, and have to take more. So really, just go to diet. I hope this works for you. If this isn’t your problem, and you don’t have MS or some other autoimmune disease, I have no idea where to go from there. (Even if you have MS or parkinsons, or something like that, I’m convinced if you do the glutathione thing it will make your symptoms less severe, but I’m not sure, since I don’t have any of the major disorders, just the symptom). I will tell people with the disorders about this as I meet them, and may figure out if it works on them, but meanwhile, I tell people who fall randomly, hoping it will help them. It took me years to figure it out and I’d like to help people get there if I can.

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@again

I had my legs collapse for years. No diagnosis, consulted many experts, tested for everything—I’m sure thousands of dollars billed to my insurance company. I researched extensively, tried a LOT of natural things. I finally figured out that my liver didn’t make enough glutathione. I took a lot of it, which helped, but it’s expensive. Now I take Milk Thistle (1-2 caps a day) plus eat dried apricots or peaches for copper (1-4 a day) and lots of greens (sometimes as spinach powder in my V8) some of which contain a bit of glutathione and all of which promote the liver making it more easily, and am a lot better. Read on the internet about Glutathione, or better, get a book on it. Doctors will likely never mention the word or know much about it, but it may be your answer to falling, even if you have another diagnosis. It’s natural and cannot hurt you (unless you were to take milk thistle in MASSIVE amounts or something stupid like that. If you’re worried about taking it, ask a doctor—they’ll look at you weird, but they’ll tell you it’s a natural substance and can't hurt you. It may not be your answer, but if it is, it will make you much less likely to fall, and help a lot of other things as well, since it is involved in a lot of bodily processes. Good luck!

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My husband also has legs that sometimes are shaky and he collapses. How much Milk Thistle are you taking?

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