MVA-motor vehicle accident-soft tissue trauma, Rx & type treatment/s

Posted by 123zale @123zale, Jan 10, 2017

I am male, 79 years old and 40 months since MVA. Still have limited ability to turn head to right, major problem when making left hand turn while driving. Limit on lift repeatedly is 10 pounds, like cat liter, and gallon of water. Trauma has now increased previous lumbar pain from mild spinal stenosis and causing increased pain and limitation in standing and very recently with sitting in church or even at home in a soft chair. Pain has radiated to my piriformis muscle in buttock area, especially right side. Do not feel sciatic nerve issue because pain does not radiate down either leg. Have been having increased neuropathy feeling in both upper legs areas, not much below knee. Orthopedic MD suggest epidurial injection to help pain versus repeated butt injections by two different medical practice and three doctors. Any experience from others with injections? What other therapies have you tried ? Appreciate any fee back.

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I am just starting to feel peifial neuropathy in my legs and foot at times. About 20 + doctors have preferred not to prescribe any opiates for pain. I had some left from a previous unrelated surgery and took one when I was really in pain. What a help and I pushed myself to do extra work that day and no extra pain was felt. I prefer not to use more at this time. If moderate pain becomes more severe a higher percent of time, I will try more and push for Rx.

I use tens unit and ultrasound units at home on different areas of my body. Chiropractor higher power units also help me.

I'm considering buying a electro pulsed magnetic system and have been after chiropractor to buy a laser unit, that has helped me previously with plantar fascitas issues and severe muscle spasms within three weeks of motor vehicle accident. Treatment were cash. Insurance did not cover.

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@123zale

Thank you for reply. I have had 3 or more muscle injections in shoulders and both sides of buttocks, previously. Physical therapy was good years ago for cranial spinal stenosis and before 12th session I was hit in rear-end MVA. about 60 physical therapy sessions have reduced pain for short period of time, as have chiropractic, acupuncture, applied relief therapy (ART) and a therapy performed with stainless steel shapes pressed against scare tissue and muscles, with feeling great for 5-10 minutes to 30 to 45 minutes after leaving provider. It seems three (3) epidurals are necessary.

Any good results with one sessions ?

I was ready for cranial epidural, and showed up on schedule, like 18 months ago and MVA insurance company denied approval to proceed with procedure. Big disappointment. I did have concerns about cranial epidural that day in traveling to have procedure performed. Turning my head to right still and issue, especially when driving and making a left turn to see cars coming from my right side.

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Marcia, PT also has helped me, and exercises at home. A few yoga positions or exercises have also helped. I lay on rolled towels under my lumbar area and under my neck or under my head. I place a roller under my knees to relieve back pressure. I can usually fall asleep in about 5 minutes and stay that way for 15 to 45 minutes. Sometimes I do this going to sleep in bed for the night. Recently the Chiropractor suggested I use foam wedges for greater results, his words. Chiropractor says my "S" curves in neck and lumbar are improving.

Balance is another issue. Check with your local county for any balance training they may have by volunteer instructors. Our county has a 6 or 8 week program for seniors. I completed to date 50% of the training to volunteer to teach balance program with other more experienced trainer.

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@123zale

Thank you for reply. I have had 3 or more muscle injections in shoulders and both sides of buttocks, previously. Physical therapy was good years ago for cranial spinal stenosis and before 12th session I was hit in rear-end MVA. about 60 physical therapy sessions have reduced pain for short period of time, as have chiropractic, acupuncture, applied relief therapy (ART) and a therapy performed with stainless steel shapes pressed against scare tissue and muscles, with feeling great for 5-10 minutes to 30 to 45 minutes after leaving provider. It seems three (3) epidurals are necessary.

Any good results with one sessions ?

I was ready for cranial epidural, and showed up on schedule, like 18 months ago and MVA insurance company denied approval to proceed with procedure. Big disappointment. I did have concerns about cranial epidural that day in traveling to have procedure performed. Turning my head to right still and issue, especially when driving and making a left turn to see cars coming from my right side.

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Yoga and Pilates help with balance. I'm doing both

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Hi Everyone,
The more I read the more I am overcome with how so many of us in life are hurting physically, and with it, mentally. Life is so unpredictable isn't it?There are times I feel like I am in a torture chamber and there is no way out, and that I cannot bear anymore. But I do, and life just keeps going as if there is no pain or misery in the world. I truly appreciate people in my life who have been supportive, and good friends that keep me thinking straight...meaning not feeling sorry for myself. And keeping a positive attitude. Yes, yes, I know...."I am positive I am hurting" he he
This is my story, and I hope it's not offensive.
I have three natural born children
I was married for 39 years and the love of my life died of cancer.
I have had a complete hysterectomy
Foot surgery
Exploratory surgery
2 neck surgeries,,,bone spurs into my spinal cord, injuring the spinal cord.
spinal stenosis lower back, now upper back
Peripheral Neuropothy I am told from spinal cord injury and stenosis. I started with one 400 mg of gamapentin once a day to 4- 800 mg + tramadol each day, and sometimes that does not stop the pain. It started in my feet and has advanced feet up to knees and in my hands.
Three way by pass
2 heart attacks
2 strokes
Pace maker...that I use 100%
Spinal stimulator
100 #s overweight
high blood pressure
and the latest.. possible kidney issues.
So when all these things affect me, that is when I feel like I am in a torture chamber.
But getting through those times is what keeps me going and hoping. You are either the victim or the victor, I choose to be the victor. That is not always easy, sometimes I just want the pain to stop and let me go. I have been sleeping a lot lately, not sure what that is all about. I don't think I am depressed, I am on Zoloft and it has helped greatly.
My heartfelt wish for all of us is that we can find Peace & Love for ourselves and others......JJ

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@jjwest

Hi Everyone,
The more I read the more I am overcome with how so many of us in life are hurting physically, and with it, mentally. Life is so unpredictable isn't it?There are times I feel like I am in a torture chamber and there is no way out, and that I cannot bear anymore. But I do, and life just keeps going as if there is no pain or misery in the world. I truly appreciate people in my life who have been supportive, and good friends that keep me thinking straight...meaning not feeling sorry for myself. And keeping a positive attitude. Yes, yes, I know...."I am positive I am hurting" he he
This is my story, and I hope it's not offensive.
I have three natural born children
I was married for 39 years and the love of my life died of cancer.
I have had a complete hysterectomy
Foot surgery
Exploratory surgery
2 neck surgeries,,,bone spurs into my spinal cord, injuring the spinal cord.
spinal stenosis lower back, now upper back
Peripheral Neuropothy I am told from spinal cord injury and stenosis. I started with one 400 mg of gamapentin once a day to 4- 800 mg + tramadol each day, and sometimes that does not stop the pain. It started in my feet and has advanced feet up to knees and in my hands.
Three way by pass
2 heart attacks
2 strokes
Pace maker...that I use 100%
Spinal stimulator
100 #s overweight
high blood pressure
and the latest.. possible kidney issues.
So when all these things affect me, that is when I feel like I am in a torture chamber.
But getting through those times is what keeps me going and hoping. You are either the victim or the victor, I choose to be the victor. That is not always easy, sometimes I just want the pain to stop and let me go. I have been sleeping a lot lately, not sure what that is all about. I don't think I am depressed, I am on Zoloft and it has helped greatly.
My heartfelt wish for all of us is that we can find Peace & Love for ourselves and others......JJ

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I really do not know what to say except you are a pretty tough person. I suffer only from constant foot pain and feel badly but you are much worse off than I am. My problems did make me a much more spiritual person. Take care.

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JJ WEST SOUNDS LIKE A STRONG PERSON. We all work at improving our physical, mental and spiritual lives. We need all three to live fully in this life and to remember to keep moving as much as we can.

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@jjwest

Hi Everyone,
The more I read the more I am overcome with how so many of us in life are hurting physically, and with it, mentally. Life is so unpredictable isn't it?There are times I feel like I am in a torture chamber and there is no way out, and that I cannot bear anymore. But I do, and life just keeps going as if there is no pain or misery in the world. I truly appreciate people in my life who have been supportive, and good friends that keep me thinking straight...meaning not feeling sorry for myself. And keeping a positive attitude. Yes, yes, I know...."I am positive I am hurting" he he
This is my story, and I hope it's not offensive.
I have three natural born children
I was married for 39 years and the love of my life died of cancer.
I have had a complete hysterectomy
Foot surgery
Exploratory surgery
2 neck surgeries,,,bone spurs into my spinal cord, injuring the spinal cord.
spinal stenosis lower back, now upper back
Peripheral Neuropothy I am told from spinal cord injury and stenosis. I started with one 400 mg of gamapentin once a day to 4- 800 mg + tramadol each day, and sometimes that does not stop the pain. It started in my feet and has advanced feet up to knees and in my hands.
Three way by pass
2 heart attacks
2 strokes
Pace maker...that I use 100%
Spinal stimulator
100 #s overweight
high blood pressure
and the latest.. possible kidney issues.
So when all these things affect me, that is when I feel like I am in a torture chamber.
But getting through those times is what keeps me going and hoping. You are either the victim or the victor, I choose to be the victor. That is not always easy, sometimes I just want the pain to stop and let me go. I have been sleeping a lot lately, not sure what that is all about. I don't think I am depressed, I am on Zoloft and it has helped greatly.
My heartfelt wish for all of us is that we can find Peace & Love for ourselves and others......JJ

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jjwest---an osteopathic doctor, suggested I reduce Rx Gabapentin with the side effects I informed him I was experiencing. This doctor recommended 100mg 3 times per day and one-300mg at bedtime. This appears to be working for me for about 60 days.

Inflammation is still an issue in my body. I have an appointment with a special nutrition MD, in three days, who gives lectures to other doctors. He Rx several special blood test that took about 5 to 7 days to get results, previously.

I am obese, and following my pulmonary doctor advise, cut my weight from 230/235 lbs to 200/205 following his suggestion. He said eat everything I regularly eat. Only half as much, as often as I can when eating. It wasn't easy, however it worked for me. Since motor vehicle accident with my anxiety, I have eaten more. However I am holding at 2o5/215 lbs, 20 to 30 lbs less than before MVA.

You should continue to count your blessing, as I do several times per day, that you keep going. GOD BLESS YOU and all of working to be the best in health that we can as we mature.

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Zale,
Thank YOU for reminding me. I think that if someone see a person a certain, the the responsibility to be that is very important. I have learned from other people, that no matter how I feel,,I always have a smile on my face, an when I cannot, I try not to be around anyone. I am enjoy this chat forum or whatever it is called. I have looked for something like this for a long time. There are not many places you can share your life with. I am expecting this one will be. Thank you EVERYONE for offering you compassion, suggestions, advice and stories of your journeys. KEEP ON TALKING!
PEACE AND LOVE...JJ

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@jjwest

Hi Everyone,
The more I read the more I am overcome with how so many of us in life are hurting physically, and with it, mentally. Life is so unpredictable isn't it?There are times I feel like I am in a torture chamber and there is no way out, and that I cannot bear anymore. But I do, and life just keeps going as if there is no pain or misery in the world. I truly appreciate people in my life who have been supportive, and good friends that keep me thinking straight...meaning not feeling sorry for myself. And keeping a positive attitude. Yes, yes, I know...."I am positive I am hurting" he he
This is my story, and I hope it's not offensive.
I have three natural born children
I was married for 39 years and the love of my life died of cancer.
I have had a complete hysterectomy
Foot surgery
Exploratory surgery
2 neck surgeries,,,bone spurs into my spinal cord, injuring the spinal cord.
spinal stenosis lower back, now upper back
Peripheral Neuropothy I am told from spinal cord injury and stenosis. I started with one 400 mg of gamapentin once a day to 4- 800 mg + tramadol each day, and sometimes that does not stop the pain. It started in my feet and has advanced feet up to knees and in my hands.
Three way by pass
2 heart attacks
2 strokes
Pace maker...that I use 100%
Spinal stimulator
100 #s overweight
high blood pressure
and the latest.. possible kidney issues.
So when all these things affect me, that is when I feel like I am in a torture chamber.
But getting through those times is what keeps me going and hoping. You are either the victim or the victor, I choose to be the victor. That is not always easy, sometimes I just want the pain to stop and let me go. I have been sleeping a lot lately, not sure what that is all about. I don't think I am depressed, I am on Zoloft and it has helped greatly.
My heartfelt wish for all of us is that we can find Peace & Love for ourselves and others......JJ

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And just think Philio, there are so many others, that have far more physical and mental journeys that are very hard to bear. You said you "just" have constant foot pain, pain in any amount is still depleting. Hang in there, some day there will be discoveries that will make these maladies seem like a faded memory. I am still waiting for the machine like they had on Star Trek, the one that is like a chamber that you lay down in and it sees what is wrong and fixes it. We are close and I hope to see it before I leave this existence.
PEACE AND LOVE...JJ

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JJ, You're welcome. Like getting through grief, the mental health for all of us with physical health issues need to share. I found several groups through Mental Health of our local hospital that was helpful for me. Hearing and seeing others in person, and outside group lunch with members of group, let me see how fortunate I was, from MVA, and the physical health issues other were living with and seeing their pains in group times, in sitting or standing, and bending over in pain. Keep seeking and you will find a group or one individual to share what is on your mind. Keep moving and talking, 123 Zale

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