Morning misery: Is prednisone effective 24 hrs? PMR and hands

Posted by fjn @fjn, Apr 16, 2022

Is prednisone meant to be effective 24 hrs? Every morning I can barely move, it takes 3 to 4 hours before the prednisone kicks in. Is this everyone else’s experience? My hands are the worse but my doctor says PMR doesn’t affect your hands. Anyone else have hand problems?

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@jsrask

When you take your dose at 6:30 pm, does it affect your sleep?

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No, the 2mg evening dose with a meal at 6.30pm doesn't affect my sleep. I do wake twice each night, but I've been doing that for years, so no change there. I used to take the small dose earlier at 4.30pm and there was no morning pain taking it at that time either, but I sometimes forgot to take it on time at that busier time of day. Mealtime is easier to remember for me.

I also take a small dose (1mg) of melatonin at 9.30pm, and that probably helps me get straight back to sleep after waking. I'm on a beta blocker (heart issues) which stops the production of melatonin, so it's to compensate for that. My doctor prescribes the melatonin and suggested I take the lowest dose. Melatonin has an anti-inflammatory effect, but taking more than a low dose can interfere with the effectiveness of prednisone.

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@nancy334

Does just putting up with soreness overcome adrenal insufficiency in time ? Ifyou can get by at 2 mg of prednisone should you just stay there until you have no symptoms ? Or just keep reducing dose regardless ?

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This is a really good question about adrenal insufficiency, I’ve never asked my doc about that.

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@johnbishop

Hi @camie16, Welcome to Connect. Sorry to hear you have PMR pain. How long have you had PMR? Can you share a little more about your diagnosis and treatment?

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It began 3 days after my fourth covid shot. I suspect I already had it and the vaccine caused a flair.
I have begun weaning from 16 mg of methylprednisolone to 8 mg. Two weeks ago I added a weekly Creator for inflammation(not prescribed). Three days ago I added Curcumin 500 with Bioperine. The only grain I consume is 6 tablespoons of oatmeal daily. Other than that I have no changes in diet. I do milk exercises both day and at night when I wake up. In addition to inflammatory markers I am going to use the exercises for diagnostic purposes. I have no pain or soreness when at rest.

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I was diagnosed with PMR in June 2022 and started on 20 mg of pred. I have decreased slowly but my doc wants m e to get off ASAP. From 3 mg down I have had a lot of pain, I'm down to 1 mg/day now and after a miserable Thanksgiving, finally had to contact my doc for some help. He said my last ESR was in the normal range so I probably don't have PMR. I wish he could sit with my pain for a day because I have all the symptoms. Does anyone have any ideas about what other conditions could mimic PMR symptoms. I'm feeling very frustrated and I feel like the doc thinks I'm a hypochondriac

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I got very frustrated with morning stiffness and waiting for a morning dose of prednisone to take effect sometime after 12 PM.
I found the article on nighttime doses of prednisone.
It has made a huge difference for me. I set my alarm for 2 AM and take my prednisone. When I get up at 7 AM I am almost free of PMR stiffness.

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@linneyshop

I was diagnosed with PMR in June 2022 and started on 20 mg of pred. I have decreased slowly but my doc wants m e to get off ASAP. From 3 mg down I have had a lot of pain, I'm down to 1 mg/day now and after a miserable Thanksgiving, finally had to contact my doc for some help. He said my last ESR was in the normal range so I probably don't have PMR. I wish he could sit with my pain for a day because I have all the symptoms. Does anyone have any ideas about what other conditions could mimic PMR symptoms. I'm feeling very frustrated and I feel like the doc thinks I'm a hypochondriac

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You need a different doctor that understands PMR, will prescribe enough Pred that you can adjust according to pain and stiffness while always trying to decrease without the pain coming back.

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@southtexas

You need a different doctor that understands PMR, will prescribe enough Pred that you can adjust according to pain and stiffness while always trying to decrease without the pain coming back.

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Thanks, that's what my kids are saying also but I'm always so afraid of offending
my doc, but you have given me confidence to stand up for myself.

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@linneyshop

I was diagnosed with PMR in June 2022 and started on 20 mg of pred. I have decreased slowly but my doc wants m e to get off ASAP. From 3 mg down I have had a lot of pain, I'm down to 1 mg/day now and after a miserable Thanksgiving, finally had to contact my doc for some help. He said my last ESR was in the normal range so I probably don't have PMR. I wish he could sit with my pain for a day because I have all the symptoms. Does anyone have any ideas about what other conditions could mimic PMR symptoms. I'm feeling very frustrated and I feel like the doc thinks I'm a hypochondriac

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@linneyshop I had similar problem and my doctor sent me to a rheumatologist who said it was RA which requires different meds. I am trying to get off prednisone and it seems to have helped.

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Have you tried Volterin in the morning? When I came off prednisone for 5 weeks in August, I had a 5 day flare that put me right back on prednisone. My hands were so stiff that I could not press the button on a can of shaving cream. The Volterin did the trick until the prednisone kicked in again.
Good luck

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In October, 2022 when I was diagnosed with PMR in the hospital ER, both hands were so swollen & painful I couldn’t even dress myself. The thing that usually distinguishes PMR pain is it is usually bi-lateral. (both hands, shoulders, etc.) I also have osteoarthritis. That pain is limited to one area at a time. Not to be confused with pain from PMR. And not really affected much by Prednisone. Hope this helps.
Wishing success in your treatment.

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