Mk4 vs Mk7 for osteoporosis
I have osteoporosis and a condition where I cannot exercise. I also have elevated lp(a) which increases cardiac risk. I have read studies that show mk4 in a daily dose of 45 mg is used to treat osteoporosis in Japan. Either in one 45 mg dose or divided 3 doses daily. It may also be combined with mk7 once daily. Mk7 has a much longer half life and stays in the body longer. Does anyone have any experience with this and any specific brands they might recommend for mk4? I just want to direct all my calcium to my bones and not my arteries, as much as possible. Thanks !
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@daisy17
I do not take bisphosphonates; I am a strontium citrate user and I use BHRT also.
To answer your questions:
Dexa:
My dexa was in normal range for bone density and normal range for bone quality as per TBS.
Dexa lowest was Femoral neck at -0.7, Spine was 3.1 and Total hip was 1.1
The femoral neck is where my osteoporosis was years ago when I began strontium citrate; my lowest reading when I began strontium citrate was -2.8 in my left femoral bone.
TBS was as:
It says on the number 6 conclusion section that....
The lumbar spine TBS is 1.522 which suggests a normal microarchitecture compared to reference population.
The patient's associated BMD and TBS values suggest a Normal resilience to fracture.
Furthermore, the minimum BMD Tschore (either adjusted or not for TBS), positions the patient in the normal category equivalent."
Fractures: no fractures, no side effects
I am a strontium citrate and BHRT user; I used Boniva years ago but stopped because of the side effects and a lack of positive gain. That all changed when I began strontium citrate. My endocrinologist told me to change nothing.
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thank you for sharing your journey. I've had diagnosis of osteoporosis since I guess about the first DEXA scan, around 15 yrs. ago. I didn't believe it. My pc nurse practitioner (One Medical) didn't. make an issue of it, but I started seeing a regular geriatric MD last summer & she sent me to an endocrinologist, Who prescribed Reclast since my insurance co. doesn't cover the other options she considered. I somehow wandered into the Mayo Clinic bulletin board, I don't want to take the Reclast. I've fallen 3 times in the past 3 years but no bones broke. I'm trying to work out more consistently. It looks like I'll add Strontium Citrate to my supplement regimen. Is there a preferred brand? thank you, & I will follow the links you provided.
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Strontium citrate is more of a treatment, supplement style.
You take strontium at medical levels, 680 mg daily, so be very sure that you do your research and are knowledgeable before you begin it.
Strontium will elevate your dexa falsely because the strontium is denser than calcium and the dexa is set to read calcium. TBS and REMS are not affected in the same way.
Here are some links about strontium and some strontium stories from users:
Compilation of strontium posts and research:
https://www.inspire.com/groups/bone-health-and-osteoporosis/discussion/dd823b-strontium-a-compilation-of-research-and-information/
Strontium user stories:
https://www.inspire.com/m/Kathleen1314/journal/d69831-strontium-users-stories-3-alternative-to-pharma-meds/
All strontium is the same strontium; the difference lies in the additives and the carrier and in the oversight.
AOR is overseen by Canada's regulatory body and has few additives.
Vitacost has a good price point.
Terry's is one that at least one person on Inspire likes to take.