Mild cognitive impairment: What questions to ask the neurologist?

Posted by sb4ca @sb4ca, Jul 8, 2023

I have been having increased problems with word retrieval, forgetting the subject in the middle of a discussion, not knowing how to spell words that I've always spelled in the past, missing important meetings etc. My neurologist had me take a cognition test and did an MRI. Both showed mild cognitive impairment. I really don't know how this advances or how rapidly. My meeting is tomorrow. Does anyone have suggestions on what I should ask?

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@juliesheff5

Where is the HABIT program? Is it something you can participate from home? Does insurance pay for it?

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Hi Julie! HABIT = Healthy Action to Benefit Independence and Thinking and is a 10-day program for folks who have been diagnosed with mild cognitive impairment to help learn skills for maintaining independence, improve healthy thinking and self-esteem.

Laurie @roch was helpful in providing a downloadable flyer of information on HABIT above and here also is a direct link to HABIT at Mayo which provides information and contacts for all 3 Mayo campuses including a direct application link:

HABIT: Healthy Action to Benefit Independence and Thinking -
- https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/psychiatry/services/habit-program#:~:text=The%20HABIT%20program%20is%20held,Mayo%20Florida%2C%20and%20Mayo%20Minnesota.

It appears you would have to be present to participate, but I'm not positive. That is a great question to ask. You never know they may offer Zoom. It looks like a fantastic program, are you considering participating?

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Thank you so much! I am thinking about it

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@rwinney

Hello @sb4ca - I'm so sorry you are struggling with MCI and ocular disruption. Naturally you feel "done with this" out of frustration, exhaustion, fear. Understandably, it's a lot. I'm happy you have this community to seek support from. Your post caught my eye because I just went to my mom's neurology follow up appointment last week to discuss her being diagnosed with MCI, after an MRI showed no signs of Alzheimer's or Dementia, thankfully. As I'm sure you have been doing, I've researched MCI. Here's what Mayo has to say about MCI:

Mild Cognitive Impairment - diagnoses and treatment -

- https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mild-cognitive-impairment/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20354583#:~:text=Health%20care%20providers%20often%20use,the%20degree%20memory%20is%20impaired.

For the past year or so, my mom has described what you say - losing words, thoughts, spelling. She had been having TIA's as well and scans proved a stroke at some point. She has a small brain tumor that is watched annually for growth, and suffers from ocular migraines for many years. Plus, she lives in chronic pain from a traumatic accident years ago which is "managed" and I say that loosely, with opioids. A mixed bag of mitigating factors. Sound familiar?

Has your neurologist suggested memory medication? My mom has been taking one and swears it has made a change in her reciting of words and thoughts. While I don't know specifically about your diagnoses, I know that when faced with a plethora of symptoms and challenges, the CNS can go a little haywire and the overwhelmingness of it all causes an uptick in symptoms. At my Mom's appointment, her neurologist handed her a packet about "Curable".

Curable: A Different Approach -

- https://www.curablehealth.com/?gad=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvP3s7aiHgAMVVROzAB1fqgJ4EAAYASAAEgKhzfD_BwE

Curable is a site that has been spoken highly of by Connect members who have chronic pain. It offers a different approach to pain management and I was very pleased to see my mom's doc was acknowledging the need for self-help and self-management, in addition to meds, etc. Maybe it could be helpful as you and your doctors navigate your current health conditions.

Here is a Connect discussion about Curable -

- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/amazing-websiteapp-in-dealing-with-chronic-pain-curablehealth-com/

I sure wish you the best in your journey. Try to stay positive and keep your chin up. You got this! When might you know if you will apply to Mayo Clinic?

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I am pleasantly surprised to hear that an MRI can rule out Alzheimer’s or dementia. That’s new to me. And good news for your mother.

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I want help with minor memory issues

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@lwbarker

I am pleasantly surprised to hear that an MRI can rule out Alzheimer’s or dementia. That’s new to me. And good news for your mother.

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Hi there @lwbarker, thank you for your reply. I was going on what my mom's neurologist shared with me. It's all still quite new to me, too. Learn as I go. Apparently an MRI is a biomarker for detection . Here's some info that breaks down what MRI testing can and can't do regarding Alzheimer's or dementia:

~ https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/alzheimers-symptoms-and-diagnosis/how-biomarkers-help-diagnose-dementia

Hoping the article provides clarity. Have a pleasant evening.

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@vboller

I want help with minor memory issues

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Hello, welcome to Connect @vboller. Are you comfortable sharing more about your minor memory issues? Members may be able to assist and share things that have worked for them. Have you been diagnosed with MCI?

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@rwinney

Hi there @lwbarker, thank you for your reply. I was going on what my mom's neurologist shared with me. It's all still quite new to me, too. Learn as I go. Apparently an MRI is a biomarker for detection . Here's some info that breaks down what MRI testing can and can't do regarding Alzheimer's or dementia:

~ https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/alzheimers-symptoms-and-diagnosis/how-biomarkers-help-diagnose-dementia

Hoping the article provides clarity. Have a pleasant evening.

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Yes, thanks, the article did provide some clarity.

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@tallyguy

Depending on one's degree of cognitive impairment, there are LOTS of things that can be done. As noted below, I am mildly cognitive impaired (MCI) and the overriding rule is to unburden my cognition. We MCIs have no cognition to spare. So, everything goes on MY table next to the kitchen: books, notes, mail that I want to look at again, and--in a basket--key fobs, my wallet, extra eyeglasses, and lots of other small things. On this table are a charging cord for my phone and one for my chromebook. I keep 3 $150 chromebooks thru the house and I ALWAYS put them back by remembering to connect them to their chargers.

The chromebooks and phone raise the issue of notetaking. I use Google Notes for everything--grocery lists, pool chemicals, and more. I rely on Google Calendar for appts. I lose paper notes and always have my phone (or a chromebook), so I always have my notes. (I am unaffiliated with Google.)

Household and yard clutter are prohibited. The table and basket spare me the frustration of looking for something. (With my impairment, I can't see pliers if they are on the opposite side of the drawer where they are kept.) Clutter raises the lost-item issue, but more importantly draws cognition just in living with it and navigating thru it. It bears repeating, we MCIs have no cognition to lose.

Cognition is learning, recalling, reasoning, problem-solving and attending--the last being the precondition to the rest. For the MCI, attention precludes multitasking, pressured conceptual processing, and distracting or overstimulating settings. Reading instead of tv. Prayer, meditation or well-written poetry instead of the news. Humming and singing (which promote the rest-and-relax parasympathetic nervous system over the fight-or-flee sympathetic nervous system). We MCIs must find the joy of sensory vs conceptual processing, the right brain instead of the left brain all the time.

Hope this helps.

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I too have MCI...have had it for the past 7 years. It is very frustrating for our loved ones besides our frustrations too. You have given some good options. I think TV is very distracting and hard on the nerves. Reading is very good, it allows us the pleasure of "changes in immediate difficulties and allows us pleasure in the life of another not focusing on our limitations. I have been singing in church choirs since I was a child. I still sing people enjoy my singing also. It truly makes my limitations easier to live with. Thank you for the positive thoughts and suggestions too.

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@tallyguy

Depending on one's degree of cognitive impairment, there are LOTS of things that can be done. As noted below, I am mildly cognitive impaired (MCI) and the overriding rule is to unburden my cognition. We MCIs have no cognition to spare. So, everything goes on MY table next to the kitchen: books, notes, mail that I want to look at again, and--in a basket--key fobs, my wallet, extra eyeglasses, and lots of other small things. On this table are a charging cord for my phone and one for my chromebook. I keep 3 $150 chromebooks thru the house and I ALWAYS put them back by remembering to connect them to their chargers.

The chromebooks and phone raise the issue of notetaking. I use Google Notes for everything--grocery lists, pool chemicals, and more. I rely on Google Calendar for appts. I lose paper notes and always have my phone (or a chromebook), so I always have my notes. (I am unaffiliated with Google.)

Household and yard clutter are prohibited. The table and basket spare me the frustration of looking for something. (With my impairment, I can't see pliers if they are on the opposite side of the drawer where they are kept.) Clutter raises the lost-item issue, but more importantly draws cognition just in living with it and navigating thru it. It bears repeating, we MCIs have no cognition to lose.

Cognition is learning, recalling, reasoning, problem-solving and attending--the last being the precondition to the rest. For the MCI, attention precludes multitasking, pressured conceptual processing, and distracting or overstimulating settings. Reading instead of tv. Prayer, meditation or well-written poetry instead of the news. Humming and singing (which promote the rest-and-relax parasympathetic nervous system over the fight-or-flee sympathetic nervous system). We MCIs must find the joy of sensory vs conceptual processing, the right brain instead of the left brain all the time.

Hope this helps.

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@tallyguy This is a fantastic overview of helpful suggestions and insight to living productively with MCI.

Thanks to @marydottie72 for replying to tallyguyand bringing their past remarks forward again. Good stuff!

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@marydottie72

I too have MCI...have had it for the past 7 years. It is very frustrating for our loved ones besides our frustrations too. You have given some good options. I think TV is very distracting and hard on the nerves. Reading is very good, it allows us the pleasure of "changes in immediate difficulties and allows us pleasure in the life of another not focusing on our limitations. I have been singing in church choirs since I was a child. I still sing people enjoy my singing also. It truly makes my limitations easier to live with. Thank you for the positive thoughts and suggestions too.

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Thank you for this inspiring post! I could give me another test, but I’m afraid for the MCI to go on my chart and people not take me seriously if I’m in the emergency room or hospitalized.

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