Median Arcuate Ligament Syndrome (MALS)

Posted by Kari Ulrich, Alumna Mentor @kariulrich, Dec 26, 2016

I am looking for other patients that have been diagnosed with Median Arcuate Ligament Syndrome. Although it is caused by compression of the celiac artery many people experience abdominal pain after eating, diarrhea, food avoidance. Usually the first doctors they see are GI doctors. It is a diagnosis that is made after everything else is ruled out. I am curious if anyone else has had surgery?

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@tahardy24

I was recently was diagnosed with Median Acute Ligament syndrome . Have had this pain for years , but was manageable. Almost two years ago it hit and has not let its grip . Nausea, diarrhea, pain, gas, belching, back pain, exhaustion. I’m at the end of my rope mentally. Cardiologist found, he referred me back to my general practitioner she referred me to a vascular surgeon. The vascular surgeon although very nice was admittedly in over his head and although he had heard of mals; he had no idea what to do with me. He ended up writing me a referral to ; medical care of my own for a specialist in MALS. My husband of 35 years doesn’t quite seem to understand; I had to let go of my job almost a year ago September I just feel like my whole life is falling apart and I just don’t know what kind of decisions to make I’m just so overwhelmed and confuse. Called a dr in Cleveland metro hospital And dr at u of m. ; These Establishments Have to review my records and then review to see if they can take on my case.??? While I continue to suffer! This is a lot for someone who is in constant pain. To do anything at all I use cannabis and Kratom. I just want out ! I’m slipping in this rabbit hole and I don’t know how to hang on much longer . Seeing a counselor once a week and I know my husband doesn’t want that.either. Any answers

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I feel the same. My whole life is falling apart. My husband also does not understand, although he tries to. I am a shell of a human at this point. All friends have disappeared because I can no longer do any of the activities I used to. I feel like the medical community has completely failed me on so many levels. I am 39 and put off having kids because I was so ill the last ten years. We kept waiting for things to "get better" and they have only gotten worse. Worst of all, no doctor I speak with can provide any real clarity on any of my symptoms. I did group and individual therapy for two years (twice a week!) and was repeatedly told I have "conversion disorder." I still do therapy now, but the trauma from being treated as if you are completely insane is so deep. I have many issues, and it is really hard to know that everything I ever complained about was true and I was told for years not to trust myself and what I felt.

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@jasoncollins - I can’t imagine what your life is like with so many different problems making your life miserable.
I had MALS, operated on in SC. I also have had GI autoimmune disease.
You have two diagnosed autoimmune disorders- the autonomic neuropathy and Hashimoto’s. It is also possible that you have small vessel vasculitis
With one autoimmune disorder you often get more.
There is also celiac disease that could cause many of your GI problems. Many with celiac also have Hashimoto’s. Were you tested for celiac?
I don’t agree with the one doctor that said MALS cannot cause the pain because of collaterals.
I had collaterals too and severe pain.
I have also been told many times it’s all in my head. The only thing wrong with my head was getting upset about undiagnosed misery and losing any social life and friends I had.
I do believe you belong at Mayo. Do you have any doctor that could help refer you?
The doctor could also help list your different problems in order and briefly describe test results, treatments etc.
Please get back to us!

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Hi everyone, I’m new here and very new to MALs. For starters I have been told that I have lupus for about 2 years now with crazy bloodwork, after a recent pericarditis episode and a ct of my chest my cardiologist and gastroenterologist found the MALs and referred me to a general surgeon. Being that I’m so new to this I really don’t understand what happens from here and would love some insight and what to expect. I know my dr mentioned surgery and I’m a bit nervous about that, being 28 and a mother of 2 young children it would be hard to manage household duties with the time frame that they mentioned that it takes for recovery. Any insight would be much appreciated

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@jashetta

Hi everyone, I’m new here and very new to MALs. For starters I have been told that I have lupus for about 2 years now with crazy bloodwork, after a recent pericarditis episode and a ct of my chest my cardiologist and gastroenterologist found the MALs and referred me to a general surgeon. Being that I’m so new to this I really don’t understand what happens from here and would love some insight and what to expect. I know my dr mentioned surgery and I’m a bit nervous about that, being 28 and a mother of 2 young children it would be hard to manage household duties with the time frame that they mentioned that it takes for recovery. Any insight would be much appreciated

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I also have valvular heart disease where almost all of my heart valves are regurgitating so I’m a little scared for surgery

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@jashetta

Hi everyone, I’m new here and very new to MALs. For starters I have been told that I have lupus for about 2 years now with crazy bloodwork, after a recent pericarditis episode and a ct of my chest my cardiologist and gastroenterologist found the MALs and referred me to a general surgeon. Being that I’m so new to this I really don’t understand what happens from here and would love some insight and what to expect. I know my dr mentioned surgery and I’m a bit nervous about that, being 28 and a mother of 2 young children it would be hard to manage household duties with the time frame that they mentioned that it takes for recovery. Any insight would be much appreciated

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There’s a Facebook group called Mals Awareness that is a wealth of information. I had mad-had surgery in January. They have been my lifeline.

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@lasirvent

There’s a Facebook group called Mals Awareness that is a wealth of information. I had mad-had surgery in January. They have been my lifeline.

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Unfortunately I’m not a Facebook user, I don’t like the social media scene too much.

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@astaingegerdm

@jasoncollins - I can’t imagine what your life is like with so many different problems making your life miserable.
I had MALS, operated on in SC. I also have had GI autoimmune disease.
You have two diagnosed autoimmune disorders- the autonomic neuropathy and Hashimoto’s. It is also possible that you have small vessel vasculitis
With one autoimmune disorder you often get more.
There is also celiac disease that could cause many of your GI problems. Many with celiac also have Hashimoto’s. Were you tested for celiac?
I don’t agree with the one doctor that said MALS cannot cause the pain because of collaterals.
I had collaterals too and severe pain.
I have also been told many times it’s all in my head. The only thing wrong with my head was getting upset about undiagnosed misery and losing any social life and friends I had.
I do believe you belong at Mayo. Do you have any doctor that could help refer you?
The doctor could also help list your different problems in order and briefly describe test results, treatments etc.
Please get back to us!

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Yes, I think there is something with small vessel vasculitis. I had to self refer to UCLA vasculitis clinic because no one can do ANYTHING but twiddle their thumbs and tell me how complicated this all is. The Stanford docs are useless. I have a good rheum, but really, how good is she? I don't have the ANCA antibodies but my complements are so low it is sickening. I have been gluten free for a few years (more or less) and every time I eat gluten I get really really sick. So I agree that is one thing, but I also cannot eat fat or protein unless it is plant based. For years I tried those suggested autoimmune diets with good fats and protein....I just got sicker and sicker. And man, did I stick to those stupid diets. Now I can eat mostly well cooked veggies and fruits, but sometimes I cannot eat anything at all.

thank you for acknowledging the "it is in your head" thing. I am so angry and frustrated. My therapist is great, but honestly, she does not even understand what I say. My pcp is pretty good with referrals, useless otherwise, but Mayo told me on the phone last week they would not take me because I have been seen at a Stanford. But Stanford does not seem to have the knowledge or communication to deal with the complexity.

I also have a timeline list of my symptoms, a list of symptoms by system in the body, a picture that was made with diagrams pointing to the areas of my body, a list of diagnoses (most of them have been wrong....90% of what was told to me was wrong...like Reynaud's for years when I had neuropathy). A list of treatments, many of which are difficult to remember, (it has been like 50 different meds) this is my area of weakness with my logging of stuff....mostly because stuff does not work or causes side effects in me (I think it has to do with my sensitive nervous system). I bring these to every appointment and literally all they do is just read the notes the last doc cut and pasted. I have had, when pressed, doctors at Stanford openly admit they never looked at my scans or my chart. Rage does not describe how I feel and every month is different than the previous. The last three have been electric shocks in my abdomen almost constantly. And the docs say, "well, we have done so many tests." So I finally have a consult with the surgeon at Stanford that told me in December that MALS could not be the case (despite from what I can gather I have a very very high degree of stenosis). She said they don't classify the percent, but I don't believe that to be true since just about everyone that sees a doctor with knowledge of this is able to quantify the stenosis. Plus, I have been begging for this GB to be out for a long time, hyperkinetic GB, and was dismissed for a long time until I pushed for a second HIDA scan. First was EF of 85% with reproduction of symptoms and second was 98.3%. Now my gi, who is supposedly "one of the best at what she does in the country" is referring me to surgeon that already dismissed me.

I apologize for the rant. I only have two emotions these days.....rage and despair. Today is rage, which I would greatly prefer over the deep despair.

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@jasoncollins

Yes, I think there is something with small vessel vasculitis. I had to self refer to UCLA vasculitis clinic because no one can do ANYTHING but twiddle their thumbs and tell me how complicated this all is. The Stanford docs are useless. I have a good rheum, but really, how good is she? I don't have the ANCA antibodies but my complements are so low it is sickening. I have been gluten free for a few years (more or less) and every time I eat gluten I get really really sick. So I agree that is one thing, but I also cannot eat fat or protein unless it is plant based. For years I tried those suggested autoimmune diets with good fats and protein....I just got sicker and sicker. And man, did I stick to those stupid diets. Now I can eat mostly well cooked veggies and fruits, but sometimes I cannot eat anything at all.

thank you for acknowledging the "it is in your head" thing. I am so angry and frustrated. My therapist is great, but honestly, she does not even understand what I say. My pcp is pretty good with referrals, useless otherwise, but Mayo told me on the phone last week they would not take me because I have been seen at a Stanford. But Stanford does not seem to have the knowledge or communication to deal with the complexity.

I also have a timeline list of my symptoms, a list of symptoms by system in the body, a picture that was made with diagrams pointing to the areas of my body, a list of diagnoses (most of them have been wrong....90% of what was told to me was wrong...like Reynaud's for years when I had neuropathy). A list of treatments, many of which are difficult to remember, (it has been like 50 different meds) this is my area of weakness with my logging of stuff....mostly because stuff does not work or causes side effects in me (I think it has to do with my sensitive nervous system). I bring these to every appointment and literally all they do is just read the notes the last doc cut and pasted. I have had, when pressed, doctors at Stanford openly admit they never looked at my scans or my chart. Rage does not describe how I feel and every month is different than the previous. The last three have been electric shocks in my abdomen almost constantly. And the docs say, "well, we have done so many tests." So I finally have a consult with the surgeon at Stanford that told me in December that MALS could not be the case (despite from what I can gather I have a very very high degree of stenosis). She said they don't classify the percent, but I don't believe that to be true since just about everyone that sees a doctor with knowledge of this is able to quantify the stenosis. Plus, I have been begging for this GB to be out for a long time, hyperkinetic GB, and was dismissed for a long time until I pushed for a second HIDA scan. First was EF of 85% with reproduction of symptoms and second was 98.3%. Now my gi, who is supposedly "one of the best at what she does in the country" is referring me to surgeon that already dismissed me.

I apologize for the rant. I only have two emotions these days.....rage and despair. Today is rage, which I would greatly prefer over the deep despair.

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Hi @jasoncollins @jashetta welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect.

Katie, I noticed that you wished to post a URL to web resources with your message. You will be able to add URLs to your posts in a few days. There is a brief period where new members can't post links. We do this to deter spammers and keep the community safe. Clearly the link you wanted to post is not spam, so allow me to post it here.
- Newly-identified symptoms of left renal vein entrapment syndrome mimicking orthostatic disturbance [Springer] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12519-012-0349-1

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@colleenyoung

Hi @jasoncollins @jashetta welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect.

Katie, I noticed that you wished to post a URL to web resources with your message. You will be able to add URLs to your posts in a few days. There is a brief period where new members can't post links. We do this to deter spammers and keep the community safe. Clearly the link you wanted to post is not spam, so allow me to post it here.
- Newly-identified symptoms of left renal vein entrapment syndrome mimicking orthostatic disturbance [Springer] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12519-012-0349-1

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that is exactly the article I was going to post....connection with entrapment and endocrine issues! Thank you! It was the only one I could find, but made me wonder if there is a greater connection. Since location of adrenals is fed by some of the vessels many people have issues with besides MALS.

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We just published my case. In a nut shell, hip dysplasia caused lumbar lordosis which caused my MALS. Had mal surgery at Mayo Rochester with relief of more than 30 symptoms. Hip arthritis worsened lumbar lordosis and MALS symptoms started to return. Hip replacement enabled me to do exercises to straighten my spine, which reduced MALS symptoms. This is the only article in the world that presents multiple management strategies for MALS symptoms. https://www.ejcrim.com/index.php/EJCRIM/article/view/1605/2056

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