Klonopin Use

Posted by rclouv @rclouv, Jan 9 5:24pm

I’ve been struggling with anxiety for over 7 years. In addition to taking Desvenlafaxine, i also have been taking klonopin, an average of 3-4 milligrams a week. Usually separated by a couple of days (but occasionally back to back). I’ve been cutting back the last couple of weeks and am struggling. Could i be addicted using this small of a dose? My psychiatrist (only used for med management) says no. He said I’d need to be taking much more and daily to be addicted. Any answers?

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@jann422

It sounds like you are averaging 1mg a day of Klonopin which is a low dose but it is a benzodiazapine and,, as such, must be come off very gradually. Benzodiazapines are very addictive and tapering must be done very regularly and slowly, preferably with a Doctor.

Please reference the Ashton Manual, (which is the gold standard) for getting off benzodiazapines.
It is online and it is free.
Best of luck to you!

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Just an fyi, I had several issues with just taking .5 mg daily and when I mentioned that it was a low dose to my primary, he said BS. He was not happy old sleep doc put me on this crap. But said .5mg is more of a standard dose, not low. May be low compared to what others are taking, granted, but many folks become dependent and have to move up their doses over time to get the same effect.

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Your doctor is full of it. You can become dependent on any dose of klonopin - any! If you have questions about this med., it's better to get the real scoop from a trusted pharmacist who will be honest with you. They know a lot more about this med than most any physician.

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@arthur57

Just an fyi, I had several issues with just taking .5 mg daily and when I mentioned that it was a low dose to my primary, he said BS. He was not happy old sleep doc put me on this crap. But said .5mg is more of a standard dose, not low. May be low compared to what others are taking, granted, but many folks become dependent and have to move up their doses over time to get the same effect.

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Are you still on it? If not, was it difficult to get off of it?

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@rclouv

Are you still on it? If not, was it difficult to get off of it?

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I was only on it for 7 months. But after roughly 6 weeks I noticed changes to my central nervous system. My one eye began doing weird twitching and I began to notice almost constant body buzzing and tremors while I walked and while I slept. Freaked me out as I wondered what might be going on, MS/Parkinsons etc. Went to eye doc who said my eyes were good, couldn't find anything. Asked the sleep doc and he downplayed the drug having any effects such as this (found out later through a lot of research it can indeed). I went to primary and he freaked out when I told him of my symptoms and that a sleep doc gave me this to help me sleep. First thing was this is the last thing for sleep, he must be an old guy. I laughed and said, yes, he's older than me, and I was 65 at the time (67 now). He said no younger guy is going to give you this stuff. I should have stopped then but it did help me sleep but my symptoms got worse and I stopped cold turkey after 7 months as I was having tremors most of the day and night. I did go to a neurolgist just to make sure and he found nothing wrong with me but couldn't understand why he gave me klonopin. After stopping my eye issues cleared up within a week, never to return. However, my body buzzing and nightly tremors were bad. The daytime buzzing stopped after 6 or so months but nightly tremors continued for about 18 months after stopping medication. I could feel them slowly ease over the many months. I stopped cold turkey which I know is bad but did it because I was already being badly affected by it anyway. Best of luck!

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@arthur57

I was only on it for 7 months. But after roughly 6 weeks I noticed changes to my central nervous system. My one eye began doing weird twitching and I began to notice almost constant body buzzing and tremors while I walked and while I slept. Freaked me out as I wondered what might be going on, MS/Parkinsons etc. Went to eye doc who said my eyes were good, couldn't find anything. Asked the sleep doc and he downplayed the drug having any effects such as this (found out later through a lot of research it can indeed). I went to primary and he freaked out when I told him of my symptoms and that a sleep doc gave me this to help me sleep. First thing was this is the last thing for sleep, he must be an old guy. I laughed and said, yes, he's older than me, and I was 65 at the time (67 now). He said no younger guy is going to give you this stuff. I should have stopped then but it did help me sleep but my symptoms got worse and I stopped cold turkey after 7 months as I was having tremors most of the day and night. I did go to a neurolgist just to make sure and he found nothing wrong with me but couldn't understand why he gave me klonopin. After stopping my eye issues cleared up within a week, never to return. However, my body buzzing and nightly tremors were bad. The daytime buzzing stopped after 6 or so months but nightly tremors continued for about 18 months after stopping medication. I could feel them slowly ease over the many months. I stopped cold turkey which I know is bad but did it because I was already being badly affected by it anyway. Best of luck!

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On a dose of .5mg a day? Crazy. How long did it take to recover after quitting cold turkey?

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@arthur57

I was only on it for 7 months. But after roughly 6 weeks I noticed changes to my central nervous system. My one eye began doing weird twitching and I began to notice almost constant body buzzing and tremors while I walked and while I slept. Freaked me out as I wondered what might be going on, MS/Parkinsons etc. Went to eye doc who said my eyes were good, couldn't find anything. Asked the sleep doc and he downplayed the drug having any effects such as this (found out later through a lot of research it can indeed). I went to primary and he freaked out when I told him of my symptoms and that a sleep doc gave me this to help me sleep. First thing was this is the last thing for sleep, he must be an old guy. I laughed and said, yes, he's older than me, and I was 65 at the time (67 now). He said no younger guy is going to give you this stuff. I should have stopped then but it did help me sleep but my symptoms got worse and I stopped cold turkey after 7 months as I was having tremors most of the day and night. I did go to a neurolgist just to make sure and he found nothing wrong with me but couldn't understand why he gave me klonopin. After stopping my eye issues cleared up within a week, never to return. However, my body buzzing and nightly tremors were bad. The daytime buzzing stopped after 6 or so months but nightly tremors continued for about 18 months after stopping medication. I could feel them slowly ease over the many months. I stopped cold turkey which I know is bad but did it because I was already being badly affected by it anyway. Best of luck!

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Been on this drug for 30 years. All Benzos are addictive. All of us are different, & unlikely any 2 people have the same experience with side effects. I was taking 2 mgs a day for sleep & anxiety (15 yrs.) weened down to 1 a day with help of my family doc. It has to be done slowly to be successful. Never had need or desire to go back up. Knew I was physically addicted however. Intended to go to .5, then off, but life events happened & I needed the 1mg per day. I take half around noon & half before bed. Often I forget to take the noon dose, so just take the night dose. The next day I know that I missed a dose, as I can feel it. (The half life of the drug has gotten too low), but I don’t need to make up for the missed dose.) it is dangerous to go off any dose cold turkey. Google this & u will find it can cause a lot of unwanted effects including seizures. Be happy to discuss more of my experiences with K, but they may not be yours.

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@bram7747

Been on this drug for 30 years. All Benzos are addictive. All of us are different, & unlikely any 2 people have the same experience with side effects. I was taking 2 mgs a day for sleep & anxiety (15 yrs.) weened down to 1 a day with help of my family doc. It has to be done slowly to be successful. Never had need or desire to go back up. Knew I was physically addicted however. Intended to go to .5, then off, but life events happened & I needed the 1mg per day. I take half around noon & half before bed. Often I forget to take the noon dose, so just take the night dose. The next day I know that I missed a dose, as I can feel it. (The half life of the drug has gotten too low), but I don’t need to make up for the missed dose.) it is dangerous to go off any dose cold turkey. Google this & u will find it can cause a lot of unwanted effects including seizures. Be happy to discuss more of my experiences with K, but they may not be yours.

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Thanks for the response. So, you took 2 mg for 15 years and didn’t need to increase dose to deal with tolerance?

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@rclouv

On a dose of .5mg a day? Crazy. How long did it take to recover after quitting cold turkey?

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Took a total of 18 months before I noticed tremors almost non-existent. However, I was obviously very susceptible to this medication for some reason. It basically attacked my central nervous system which is definitely an outlier but it can happen. Most people on this drug are dependent, they just don't realize it. There bodies often become accustomed to the initial prescribed doses and then the doc needs to up etc. etc. Not for all, but many. Thats body dependency. These drugs were only originally meant for short term use, just like proton pump inhibitors, not for long term use, but thats what happens. A retired pharmacist I know said he's surprised it's even still available, said it was a drug used in 70's and 80's. I am a pretty healthy guy, only take a statin currently. when I had it filled a year or better ago, they asked me about needing my klonopin filled. I looked at her and said you don't know how that drug has messed with my CNS, and I will never take that again. She looked at me and all she said, was there are worse drugs! I just walked away, wtf!

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@bram7747

Been on this drug for 30 years. All Benzos are addictive. All of us are different, & unlikely any 2 people have the same experience with side effects. I was taking 2 mgs a day for sleep & anxiety (15 yrs.) weened down to 1 a day with help of my family doc. It has to be done slowly to be successful. Never had need or desire to go back up. Knew I was physically addicted however. Intended to go to .5, then off, but life events happened & I needed the 1mg per day. I take half around noon & half before bed. Often I forget to take the noon dose, so just take the night dose. The next day I know that I missed a dose, as I can feel it. (The half life of the drug has gotten too low), but I don’t need to make up for the missed dose.) it is dangerous to go off any dose cold turkey. Google this & u will find it can cause a lot of unwanted effects including seizures. Be happy to discuss more of my experiences with K, but they may not be yours.

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Karen, I'm amazed at folks who take 2 mg. per day. That would have put me in a wheelchair, lol. which is not really funny I know.

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@bram7747

Been on this drug for 30 years. All Benzos are addictive. All of us are different, & unlikely any 2 people have the same experience with side effects. I was taking 2 mgs a day for sleep & anxiety (15 yrs.) weened down to 1 a day with help of my family doc. It has to be done slowly to be successful. Never had need or desire to go back up. Knew I was physically addicted however. Intended to go to .5, then off, but life events happened & I needed the 1mg per day. I take half around noon & half before bed. Often I forget to take the noon dose, so just take the night dose. The next day I know that I missed a dose, as I can feel it. (The half life of the drug has gotten too low), but I don’t need to make up for the missed dose.) it is dangerous to go off any dose cold turkey. Google this & u will find it can cause a lot of unwanted effects including seizures. Be happy to discuss more of my experiences with K, but they may not be yours.

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Taking 2mg for 15 years, you never had a need to increase it due to tolerance?

(I mistakenly sent this question to bram 7747)

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