Ivermectin for Prostate Cancer? (Being studied)

Posted by tvz @tvz, Apr 7 4:56pm

I am 54 and have Gleason 3+4 in 8% of one lobe. My PSA rose from 8.1 to 9.6 in the past 6 months. I’ve heard Ivermectin has potential to slow growth of cancer cells. Has anyone tried IVM or any other medication that has been shown to slow growth?

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@rwj613

Thanks much Danny's,
My PC was caught late , metastasis over my bones 5-4 Gleason bad reaction to Docetaxel 3second flat, I'm 77 so I was put on nubeqa for a year now I'm off that too , I've started ivermectin and fenben.

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What dosages are you taking? I’m 52 btw…

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Just wanted to know ....what type of treatments you have had . FenBen and IVM are both used for PC , but check with your Dr first . I hear some people have had great success with both ... it somehow revs up the immune system or interferes with PC cells . There has been some ongoing trials - problem is its a very old drug and no money in it . Hence companies are not that eager to do trials. God Bless . James on Vancouver Island .

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tvz & dannos - I was a few years older (55) than you guys when I was diagnosed with Gleason 7 (4+3). It was definitely a shocker, I am very active, healthy, and had just retired from my corporate job to reduce stress and enjoy life. I am a big advocate of consistent motion - Even though my wife and I retired fairly early, we both stay busy with our hobby jobs. Long story short, I immediately did a significant amount of research to understand what treatment options would give me the best chance to meet my person goals moving forward. Obviously, treatment options and personal goals overlap - Everyone has their own unique life goals and a single treatment plan does not meet all circumstances. For me, my goals were (#1 - #10) 30+ years of cancer free life to spend with my wife, son, friends/family; (#11) continence - High want but definitely not a necessity; (distant #12) sexual function - Definitely nice to have, but nowhere close to life and continence.

Based on my research, a robotically assisted radical prostatectomy was the only option that met all of my personal goals and provided for a backup plan if the cancer decided to come back. At that point, I researched to find the best possible hospital for the surgery and the best doctor at that hospital. I decided that distance and convenience were not going to prevent me from getting the best possible care for my prostate cancer. I went with Mayo-Rochester and Doctor Igor Frank. What an amazing hospital, staff, and doctor. I am now 2 1/2 years out from my robotically assisted radical prostatectomy (removed prostate, seminal vesicles, 9 lymph nodes). For myself, I had full continence after 6-9 months, full erectile function after 12-18 months, and PSA continues to be undetectable (prostate cancer contained to prostate, negative margins). You never know if the cancer will come back, but for me, I am confident I will be in the 80% probability group of not having BCR. My confidence is based on the doctor, hospital and staff expertise. I would highly highly recommend doing your homework and finding the best possible hospital and doctor to provide your treatment. Your quality of life, for the rest of your life, will depend on the competence of those performing the treatment.

Based on my research and discussions after my treatment, I personally would recommend a radical prostatectomy for someone that is healthy/active and is relatively young (everyone has a different definition for young). However, as I said earlier, the treatment decision is very personal and one treatment plan does not meet every man's situation and goals.

Best of luck and pray all goes well for both of you.

Jim

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@vancouverislandhiker

Good job , let us know how things go . Yes , always let your GP know about what your taking . You never know what 'professionals' will say about your foods, pills, and natural healing medications you are taking . I check with mine yesterday ( was in there for a chat and a anti inflammatory shot in R.shoulder . He said Some of his patients have taken it and in most cases it has been well tolerated and reduced PSA . He said I dont know if it makes PSA tests look better or is reducing PC load . But he said for me , I could take without any issues . For you , that what you have to get word on . Thats the thing with Canadian medical care . No charge , not even a deductible . About 5 years ago we paid a special health tax to get covered ( about 300/year) . Now thats gone too - last election promise . Our health care is mainly supported by taxes , not that 300 charge per year . It was like a tax on tax 🙂 . James on Vancouver Island . PS- let us know what your doctors says and if you take it and results .

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I just got the "go ahead" from my GP to try Fenbendazole 222. I did some blood work at the lab to get an update on my numbers. They had initially jumped from around 1 to around 4 in a short period of time. That's when I went for a biopsy and prostate cancer was confirmed. That was 2 1/2 months ago. This is still pretty fresh for me, I really appreciate this community...

Just took my first dose of Fenben 222 and curcumin 95.
I'll continue taking that for a month then I'll retest my numbers...

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@dannos

I just got the "go ahead" from my GP to try Fenbendazole 222. I did some blood work at the lab to get an update on my numbers. They had initially jumped from around 1 to around 4 in a short period of time. That's when I went for a biopsy and prostate cancer was confirmed. That was 2 1/2 months ago. This is still pretty fresh for me, I really appreciate this community...

Just took my first dose of Fenben 222 and curcumin 95.
I'll continue taking that for a month then I'll retest my numbers...

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Let us know what happens. Interesting! God speed brother !

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@hammer101

tvz & dannos - I was a few years older (55) than you guys when I was diagnosed with Gleason 7 (4+3). It was definitely a shocker, I am very active, healthy, and had just retired from my corporate job to reduce stress and enjoy life. I am a big advocate of consistent motion - Even though my wife and I retired fairly early, we both stay busy with our hobby jobs. Long story short, I immediately did a significant amount of research to understand what treatment options would give me the best chance to meet my person goals moving forward. Obviously, treatment options and personal goals overlap - Everyone has their own unique life goals and a single treatment plan does not meet all circumstances. For me, my goals were (#1 - #10) 30+ years of cancer free life to spend with my wife, son, friends/family; (#11) continence - High want but definitely not a necessity; (distant #12) sexual function - Definitely nice to have, but nowhere close to life and continence.

Based on my research, a robotically assisted radical prostatectomy was the only option that met all of my personal goals and provided for a backup plan if the cancer decided to come back. At that point, I researched to find the best possible hospital for the surgery and the best doctor at that hospital. I decided that distance and convenience were not going to prevent me from getting the best possible care for my prostate cancer. I went with Mayo-Rochester and Doctor Igor Frank. What an amazing hospital, staff, and doctor. I am now 2 1/2 years out from my robotically assisted radical prostatectomy (removed prostate, seminal vesicles, 9 lymph nodes). For myself, I had full continence after 6-9 months, full erectile function after 12-18 months, and PSA continues to be undetectable (prostate cancer contained to prostate, negative margins). You never know if the cancer will come back, but for me, I am confident I will be in the 80% probability group of not having BCR. My confidence is based on the doctor, hospital and staff expertise. I would highly highly recommend doing your homework and finding the best possible hospital and doctor to provide your treatment. Your quality of life, for the rest of your life, will depend on the competence of those performing the treatment.

Based on my research and discussions after my treatment, I personally would recommend a radical prostatectomy for someone that is healthy/active and is relatively young (everyone has a different definition for young). However, as I said earlier, the treatment decision is very personal and one treatment plan does not meet every man's situation and goals.

Best of luck and pray all goes well for both of you.

Jim

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@hammer101 -- Thanks for your post and congratulations on your excellent recovery from surgery. I just had bilateral NS RALP at Mayo Phoenix 06/2024. Would you tell me a bit more about how you progressed on your erectile function recovery. Specifically, were you taking any medications or doing any physical penile rehab that assisted in your progress during the 18 months it took to regain full erectile function? I'm 9 weeks out of surgery and I'm getting some erectile response (maybe 65% firmness) but I'm interested in setting realistic expectations for myself about timelines. Were you getting rehabilitation treatments of some kind from your urologist or did your recovery just proceed naturally as your body recovered. Any additional information you're comfortable sharing on this very personal topic will be appreciated.

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retireditguy - My doctor recommended taking a small dosage erectile function medicine (I believe it was Cialis) for the first six months, so I did this for that amount of time - I am not a huge fan of prescription drugs, unless there are no other options. However, I did make sure to encourage erections at least once per day - My attitude post surgery was that if you don't use it, you lose it. Erectile function was not a primary goal, thus I did not do any professional rehabilitation, but my attitude was, why not do everything possible on my own to maintain all functions post surgery.

Erectile firmness took a while to come back, but slowly improved over the 18 month period. I am someone that has always had very firm erections while sleeping, so not sure how this impacted my recovery or differs from other men who have had radical prostatectomies. FYI - For several days following the prostate removal, I had full erections while sleeping, but then the erection firmness dissipated and took 18 months to come back.

Best of luck with your recovery and please let me know if you would like any additional detail or if I have not answered your questions fully.

Jim

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@hammer101

retireditguy - My doctor recommended taking a small dosage erectile function medicine (I believe it was Cialis) for the first six months, so I did this for that amount of time - I am not a huge fan of prescription drugs, unless there are no other options. However, I did make sure to encourage erections at least once per day - My attitude post surgery was that if you don't use it, you lose it. Erectile function was not a primary goal, thus I did not do any professional rehabilitation, but my attitude was, why not do everything possible on my own to maintain all functions post surgery.

Erectile firmness took a while to come back, but slowly improved over the 18 month period. I am someone that has always had very firm erections while sleeping, so not sure how this impacted my recovery or differs from other men who have had radical prostatectomies. FYI - For several days following the prostate removal, I had full erections while sleeping, but then the erection firmness dissipated and took 18 months to come back.

Best of luck with your recovery and please let me know if you would like any additional detail or if I have not answered your questions fully.

Jim

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@hammer101 -- Thanks Jim. That info was exactly what I was looking for. Best wishes going forward to you and yours.

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@dannos

Thanks, I’m in Langley and have just recently been diagnosed. I’ve ordered Phenben 222. It’s arriving today and I have a phone appointment with my GP on the 30th. I have my first appointment at the X clinic on September 10. I’ll bring it there for them to look at first but I’m pretty much sold on it…

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Do you take Milk Thistle, curcumine, and CBD oil with it? I husband just recently started this protocol last week. If you don’t mind, how often do you take Fenben? This article said three days a week.

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I'm taking curcumin 95 and CBD oil. I'm on day two of 1 fenben 222 and 1 curcumin 95, with food, in the morning and the same at night, CBD throughout the day.

I had my numbers tested just before I started

I'm gonna try it for 6 days a week for a month then test the numbers and see where I'm at.
I'm open to your suggestions, what do you think?

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