Is Dr. Gundry and "leaky gut" a scam?

Posted by millerdust @millerdust, Apr 21, 2023

I want to know if Dr. Gundry's program and medicine for "leaky gut" a scam? Lucien

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Elmhurst is great, what do think about non-dairy milk products? I have osteoporosis and look for non-dairy with the most Calcium. I have started to add Elmerst to my morning milkshakes with non-dairy milk higher Calcium levels. I have a basketfull of MD's with their own formulas. One of them contained three ingredients for a very high cost and I found it less expensive to order the three separatly. So, I don't like to see MD's selling their own brand. Many you can find on Amazon which is less expensive than purchasing the exact same ingredients directly from your gastroenterologist with their practice label. I miss bread, glad to see I can eat sourdough because that is my favorite anyway! I do like Udi's but I have to look at the carbs. Also, I like coffee, thank you for the information on Life Boost! How do decrease your stress level because all of this is very stressful!

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You can always click on "transcript" to read it rather than watching the video. In a (large) nut shell it says:
ectins are to blame for the great “white kidney bean incident” of 2006 in Japan. One Saturday evening, a TV program introduced a new method to lose weight. The method was simple: toast some dry raw white kidney beans in a frying pan for three minutes, grind the beans to a powder, and then dust it on their rice. Within days, a thousand people fell ill—some with such severe diarrhea and vomiting they ended up in the hospital. Why? Lectin poisoning.

Three minutes of dry heat is not enough to destroy the toxic lectins in kidney beans. If you don’t presoak them, you need to boil large kidney beans for a full hour to completely destroy all the lectins—though if you first soak them overnight, 98% of the lectins are gone after boiling for just 15 minutes, and all gone by half an hour. And indeed, when they tested the white beans, toasting for three minutes didn’t do a thing; no wonder people got sick, whereas 95% of the lectins were inactivated after boiling them for three minutes, and completely inactivated after ten. Evidently, “’Do not eat raw beans’ is a traditional admonition in Japan to [avoid] intestinal problems”—and now, we know why.

While canning may completely eliminate lectins from most canned beans, some residual lectin activity may remain in canned kidney beans—though apparently not enough to result in toxicity. And ironically, “[l]ow doses of lectins may be beneficial by stimulating gut function, limiting tumour growth, and ameliorating obesity.
Interest in the purported “antitumor effect of plant lectins” started with the discovery, in 1963, “that…lectins could distinguish between [cancer cells] and normal cells.” Researchers at Mass General found a substance in wheat germ—the lectin in whole wheat—which appeared “to be tumor cell specific”—clumping together “the tumor cells, while the normal cells” were left almost completely alone. So specific that you can take a stool sample from someone, and based on lectin binding to the colon lining cells that get sloughed off into the feces, you can effectively predict the presence of polyps and cancers.......

.....And, what these researchers showed, for the first time, is that the lectin in fava beans could take colon cancer cells and turn them back into looking more like normal cells. Here’s the before picture: cancer cells just growing in amorphous clumps. But then, here’s those same cancer cells after two weeks exposed to the fava bean lectins. The cells have started to go back to growing glandular structures, like normal colon tissue. Therefore, dietary lectins, or putting them in a pill or something, “may slow the progression of colon cancer[s],” potentially helping to explain why dietary consumption of beans, split peas, chickpeas, and lentils appears to “reduce…[the] risk of colorectal cancer,” based on 14 studies involving nearly two million participants. Okay, but what about cancers outside the digestive tract?

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@astaingegerdm

My problem with these products and others like these is the cost.

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From Nutrition Facts.org
Dr. Gundry’s Ulterior Interests?
So, when people told me about this book, I was like, let me guess: he sells a line of lectin-blocking supplements. And, what do you know? “Assist your body in the fight against lectins” for only $79.95 a month—that’s only like a thousand bucks a year—a bargain for “pleasant bathroom visits.” And then, of course, there’s ten other supplements. So, for only like eight or nine thousand dollars a year, you can lick those lectins. Oh, did I not mention his skin care line? “Firm + Sculpt” for an extra $120—all so much more affordable when you subscribe to his “VIP Club.”

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@gigi4

Leaky gut is real. That is when toxins, bad bacteria, etc. get leaked into our system via the digestive tract and cause disruption giving us symptoms that we then have to deal with. I was diagnosed with SIBO, a fungus and a yeast, gluten intolerant as the cause of my digestive issues, fatigue, not sleeping well. My doctor prescribed a number of supplements and botanicals to help heal my digestive tract along with changes in my diet. And my symptoms are dramatically reduced.

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May I ask what supplements you take?

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@dgill1965

May I ask what supplements you take?

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I don't take anything specifically for leaky gut. I don't have any symptoms of it I don't eat meat or dairy. And I DO eat legumes. And night shades and everything else Gundry says is bad. ( I refuse to call him "Dr")

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@bagosta

I don't take anything specifically for leaky gut. I don't have any symptoms of it I don't eat meat or dairy. And I DO eat legumes. And night shades and everything else Gundry says is bad. ( I refuse to call him "Dr")

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I’m just now learning about his beliefs and have no idea what to think at this point obviously feel strongly about it so you think he’s a quack?

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@slangston

Elmhurst is great, what do think about non-dairy milk products? I have osteoporosis and look for non-dairy with the most Calcium. I have started to add Elmerst to my morning milkshakes with non-dairy milk higher Calcium levels. I have a basketfull of MD's with their own formulas. One of them contained three ingredients for a very high cost and I found it less expensive to order the three separatly. So, I don't like to see MD's selling their own brand. Many you can find on Amazon which is less expensive than purchasing the exact same ingredients directly from your gastroenterologist with their practice label. I miss bread, glad to see I can eat sourdough because that is my favorite anyway! I do like Udi's but I have to look at the carbs. Also, I like coffee, thank you for the information on Life Boost! How do decrease your stress level because all of this is very stressful!

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Thank you for your comments. For stress relief, I started meditating a couple of years ago. I use two apps - HEADSPACE and INSIGHT TIMER. What I have learned that is vey helpful, in addition to meditating, is breath work that can be used anytime I feel stressed to calm me down. Learning to meditate is a process but well worth it. I especially like INSIGHT TIMER for the variety of meditations they have based on a Morning Check In on how I'm feeing. And both apps have meditations of varying lengths - 5 min to 20 minutes or more. So you can always fit in at least a few minutes. I strive for daily to be consistent.

Nondairy products are fine based on calcium levels. Both nuts and seeds contain calcium that are good for us. I snack on nuts and add seeds like chia seeds to my smoothies. Google "calcium in nuts and calcium in seeds" and you will see a list and how much calcium contained in each specific nut and seed. Yes, these supplements can be expensive. But it's also important that our bodies will absorb the calcium and minerals or we have wasted money and time. I look for the most bioavailable, meaning my body will absorb it well. I order supplements from Ancestral Supplements for bone builders - Bone and Marrow is one and Living Bone is another, SFI Health for Ultra K2 and I also take Boron recommended by my doctor from a company called trace minerals.

Hope this is helpful. We all have to find what works for us. I don't recall if I mentioned it in an earlier post, but my last dexascan showed no significant changes - meaning I held steady which is so much better than continuing to get worse. This dexascan was one year after my previous one and I asked my doctor to request it as I was curious how I was doing and didn't want to wait another year.
Best to you, G.

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