I am reaching out to those with DISH

Posted by blondie46 @blondie46, Jun 30, 2023

I have recently been diagnosed with DISH and I see that an old discussion was active at one time, but I would like to talk to those who have been living with this disease for a few years and find out how you are doing. My diagnosis was just recently, but when my doctor emailed me about the results of my test for something else, he sent me the symptoms of DISH and it was an instant "OMG" so this is what I have been living with for 20 years and no one told me what it was. 20 years wondering what it was that caused my voice to instantly change, why I can not sing anymore, why my throat hurt, why I would wake up in the middle of the night because I could not swallow. I have tendons and ligaments that have turned to bone and osteoarthritis/ rheumatoid arthritis all through my body and now I find out about DIME, A whole new set of problems with my neck and spine. It is not a fun life, but a painful one.

How are any of you living with your diagnosis?

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@rwhite44 I have a question for you. What caused you to have fusions done in your neck? Did you have any pressure in the lower part of your head or any issues in the neck. I am curious because I get a certain pressure in the lower back part of my head. I do have stenosis in my neck but between a surgeon and a radiologist the two have different opinions on how much stenosis I do have. It is quite frustrating really. @rnlorena

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I have a degenerative disc disease and was unaware.
Played contact sports in my youth (football, lacrosse, hockey, streetball, skateboarding, etc) so had a little pain in the neck from time to time, but thought it was wear and tear.

When I was working at age 30, I had a few hundred pounds of product on a dolly, pulled it towards myself, turned it, and pushed off and had the most excruciating pain in my neck.
Thought I had pinched a nerve or something and after a few days of not getting better, sought a diagnosis.

After telling me about the degenerative disc disease, and that at 30, imaging showed the spine of a 50 - 60 year old.
I opted for a conservative course of physical therapy as intrusive procedures on my spine terrified me.

18 months of PT. INTENSE PT, thinking if I just work hard enough it'll get better, but it kept worsening.

They finally did a Myelogram and Discogram and discovered how bad things really were.
I was 3mm from collapsing my spine at 3 levels and being paralyzed.
The 3 days I had to wait for a surgery were the longest scariest days.

I would inquire about more specific diagnostic testing with a spinal specialist that's not wholly focused on surgical outcomes.

Fusion causes additional stress above and below the fusion, and after a number of years, you just have a new problem to deal with.

Hope you get a clear diagnosis locked in. It would sure help make better quality of life decisions.

Nerve stimulator units have been helpful to a degree with my extreme pain, but not sure that's an option for you, and they of course have their own baggage...

Best of luck, and please feel free to reach out with any more questions.

Oh, and just for info's sake, my fusion hardware was all done on the front of my neck.
So my information is based on that, don't want to waste any of your time if that info isn't helpful.

Best of luck with better health in '25.

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I'm sorry, did you say your sister cannot be anesthetised due to cervical fusion?
Is her entire cervical region fused? Sorry if that's intrusive, I only ask as I'm regularly anesthetised and 4 levels of my cervical spine are fused, C 3-4, through C 6-7.
Had my first 3 fusions in about '02-'03, and they are anterior, had the 4th in '18 -'19.
Have been under a few times since then.

Just wanted to know if that was on the horizon for me if I have to have more fusions in the neck.

Hope your sister is doing better.
Spinal issues are hell on those who have them, and the fallout for the people who love them is brutal.
Thanks for being there for her.
Dealing with pain like that is always better when you have support.
You're a good brother, and apparently person.

Have a great '25.

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Hi
Dont normally come on Connect, but saw DISH and thought I would peek as someone who was diagnosed with it myself 3 years ago. I have had 4 cervical spine fusions now, 2 3 years ago and 2 more about 3 months ago. My neurosurgeon at Mayo Clinic expects to clear me for a different surgery in a couple of weeks at a follow up appt. The 2 surgeons involved in the next one(s) are disagreeing about timing. Incisional hernia guy is good to go with the neurosurgeon's recommendation; another who has to do something else in the same area that can and would normally be done at the same time is saying he wants me 6 months out from the most recent fusions. How long did you have to wait post fusions to be put under please? They each tell me they want to be sure enough healing has taken place for the spine to be stable to intubate me, but none of said it will be a problem nor has the neurosurgeon suggested that if I have to have more fused that I could not be put under, but will confirm that. Both times I have had the fusion surgery, he has removed osteophytes though they dont like to because they grow back. But one was so large, it was making it hard to swallow and I was losing my voice.

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Hi
Dont normally come on Connect, but saw DISH and thought I would peek as someone who was diagnosed with it myself 3 years ago. I have had 4 cervical spine fusions now, 2 3 years ago and 2 more about 3 months ago. My neurosurgeon at Mayo Clinic expects to clear me for a different surgery in a couple of weeks at a follow up appt. The 2 surgeons involved in the next one(s) are disagreeing about timing. Incisional hernia guy is good to go with the neurosurgeon's recommendation; another who has to do something else in the same area that can and would normally be done at the same time is saying he wants me 6 months out from the most recent fusions. How long did you have to wait post fusions to be put under please? They each tell me they want to be sure enough healing has taken place for the spine to be stable to intubate me, but none of said it will be a problem nor has the neurosurgeon suggested that if I have to have more fused that I could not be put under, but will confirm that. Both times I have had the fusion surgery, he has removed osteophytes though they dont like to because they grow back. But one was so large, it was making it hard to swallow and I was losing my voice.

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I'm so sorry to hear about your condition.
Unfortunately, the quickest time between a fusion (my 4th level, with a laminectomy) and being put under with a full tube situation was about a year.

And the surgery that had the anesthesia a year after my last fusion was a nerve stimulator implant, so not a terribly long complicated procedure.

The biggest issue, I find, is differing opinions between different branches of medicine on when it's OK and when you should wait.
I try to tell myself they are erring on the side of caution, but when you are the one needing treatments and surgeries, you do tend to be a bit less patient.

Best of luck. I sincerely hope you get some relief, and some piece of mind, as anesthesia could be a big something down the road.
Best of health in '25!

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Hi, my name is Elizabeth and I was diagnosed with DISH last year after years of being in pain management. I got sent to a rheumatologist because of my blood work and they are the ones that found it. Apparently, the rheumatologist doesn’t do much for it except meds. My pain management is also at a spine doctor so they will catch anything. I’m sure. The bone spurs are all up and down my back and in my neck. I don’t believe that I have a joint without any. I had a total knee replacement on my right knee before I knew that I had it. I also had surgery on my left foot for a bone spur before I knew and the surgery just made it worse so now the fibers in the foot are breaking down making it harder to walk due to pain. I go in for radio frequencies to my back every six months and that seems to help, for now. I read earlier that movement helps but the battle is fighting my body to move against the pain.
Are there any suggestions on what to do to battle it? Something that could help trick my mind into moving against the pain?

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Hi, my name is Elizabeth and I was diagnosed with DISH last year after years of being in pain management. I got sent to a rheumatologist because of my blood work and they are the ones that found it. Apparently, the rheumatologist doesn’t do much for it except meds. My pain management is also at a spine doctor so they will catch anything. I’m sure. The bone spurs are all up and down my back and in my neck. I don’t believe that I have a joint without any. I had a total knee replacement on my right knee before I knew that I had it. I also had surgery on my left foot for a bone spur before I knew and the surgery just made it worse so now the fibers in the foot are breaking down making it harder to walk due to pain. I go in for radio frequencies to my back every six months and that seems to help, for now. I read earlier that movement helps but the battle is fighting my body to move against the pain.
Are there any suggestions on what to do to battle it? Something that could help trick my mind into moving against the pain?

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Have you tried a spinal stimulator from a pain specialist? I did because I talked to people that said they were pain free. It was the 10th procedure that my pain specialist tried on me, but it didn't work. That doesn't mean it wont work for you.

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Hi, my name is Elizabeth and I was diagnosed with DISH last year after years of being in pain management. I got sent to a rheumatologist because of my blood work and they are the ones that found it. Apparently, the rheumatologist doesn’t do much for it except meds. My pain management is also at a spine doctor so they will catch anything. I’m sure. The bone spurs are all up and down my back and in my neck. I don’t believe that I have a joint without any. I had a total knee replacement on my right knee before I knew that I had it. I also had surgery on my left foot for a bone spur before I knew and the surgery just made it worse so now the fibers in the foot are breaking down making it harder to walk due to pain. I go in for radio frequencies to my back every six months and that seems to help, for now. I read earlier that movement helps but the battle is fighting my body to move against the pain.
Are there any suggestions on what to do to battle it? Something that could help trick my mind into moving against the pain?

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Talk to your doctor about warm water pool physical therapy. Works wonders for me and my pain management.

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My sister has DISH. She was diagnosed when she stayed with me for a year. That was in 2011. She was 54 that year. I took her to an orthopedic Dr. who I knew was very good because of her neck issues. He asked if he could take an X-ray of her neck and she said yes. I was sitting in the room when he said,"I know what your problem is." You have DISH. The other term is Forestier disease. He said that all the discs in her neck but one was fused. Because her neck is fused she is not able to be put under anesthesia. Before 2011 I noticed the way she held her head and she had what I would call a turtle neck look. She told me recently how stiff she is.

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I am female and have dish. I recently had my throat stretched. Painless procedure. I’ve had an awhile, maybe over 10/15 years. I found out June 2025

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Hi, my name is Elizabeth and I was diagnosed with DISH last year after years of being in pain management. I got sent to a rheumatologist because of my blood work and they are the ones that found it. Apparently, the rheumatologist doesn’t do much for it except meds. My pain management is also at a spine doctor so they will catch anything. I’m sure. The bone spurs are all up and down my back and in my neck. I don’t believe that I have a joint without any. I had a total knee replacement on my right knee before I knew that I had it. I also had surgery on my left foot for a bone spur before I knew and the surgery just made it worse so now the fibers in the foot are breaking down making it harder to walk due to pain. I go in for radio frequencies to my back every six months and that seems to help, for now. I read earlier that movement helps but the battle is fighting my body to move against the pain.
Are there any suggestions on what to do to battle it? Something that could help trick my mind into moving against the pain?

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I take generic Lyrica and it helps. I just found out 2025 that I have Dish. I probably had for 10/15 years. I had 3 surgeries not knowing this. I had spinal stenosis surgery with a neurosurgeon and bilateral total hip replacements with orthopedic surgeon. Pain management has advised injections won’t work and could cause more problems. I’ve read on here that people are getting injections, even if you google this, it says it’s useless. I have had my throat stretched recently, during endoscopy.

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God knows what he does. I am a true believer of it. Thank you so much I needed to hear that. I will keep updated. On 3/28 I am set to see the doctor. Hopefully I get some answers.

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MRI and CT scans I know how insurance is, it’s important to have the entire spine checked. I have Osteoarthritis and Dish. They believe Dish caused my lumbar spinal stenosis . I’ve had both hips replaced. My neck pain is bad. My lower spine hurts, even after surgery. But I don’t need a wheelchair anymore!

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I was diagnosed with DISH in 2018. My initial symptoms were stiffness throughout my body . I gradually began losing some range of motion in my neck, and developed bouts of dysphagia. I was hospitalized, unable to swallow for 15 days ,and doctors decided I needed surgery, however when they came in to talk about the surgery, I was able to swallow, and was discharged the following morning. I have had stalled swallowing difficulties, lost range of motion in my neck, and a curve in my spine, and chronic low back pain . The only medical treatment I received was steroid injections, which were actually helpful in providing some pain relief. I have just dealt with the pain throughout the years. I am now 71 yo . Still drive, enjoy water aerobics, enjoy my family, and able to function well with the activities of daily living. This has been my journey !

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I had my throat stretched during a endoscopy. I have osteoarthritis and Dish. I’ve had 3 surgeries, my joints are affected by this.

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