Has anyone used the Marodyne device to stimulate bone growth?

Posted by maryeve @maryeve, Aug 21, 2023

You stand on it twice a day for 10 minutes. It gently vibrates and also helps with improving balance. The Marodyne is made in Germany and costs about $3,000. It has not been FDA approved but there are studies in progress.

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I've been using it for about 2 years. For the first time, my DEXA scan numbers were the same (not worse). There is an article on Springer: Effectiveness of whole-body vibration on bone mineral density in postmenopausal women: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials.

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If I had the funds I'd buy one. Would love to have as an addition to all the traditional things we're told to do. If you put marodyne in the search bar above, lots of comments will turn up🥰.

This is from Dr McCormicks book, Great Bones:

Hope this helps, Patty

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@marinara0

I've been using it for about 2 years. For the first time, my DEXA scan numbers were the same (not worse). There is an article on Springer: Effectiveness of whole-body vibration on bone mineral density in postmenopausal women: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials.

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Thanks for your response and info.

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@rola

If I had the funds I'd buy one. Would love to have as an addition to all the traditional things we're told to do. If you put marodyne in the search bar above, lots of comments will turn up🥰.

This is from Dr McCormicks book, Great Bones:

Hope this helps, Patty

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Thanks for your response and info

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I am using a less expensive Lifepro daily. I am giving it a year before another scan but have heard positive responses.

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@chrisnc

I am using a less expensive Lifepro daily. I am giving it a year before another scan but have heard positive responses.

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TY, that's good to know. Will look into it. 🩷

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I used the Marodyne platform for 7 years as it was the only option offered to me by my endocrinologist in 2013 besides Prolia. I had the first shot of Prolia with no problems but the second shot 6 months later I broke out in a rash. That left me only the machine. In spite of declining numbers on each Dexa scan she offered no other solutions. Since I had had breast cancer I was sent to this endocrinologist by my oncologist. This particular endocrinologist was a researcher in the cancer center and only treated breast cancer survivors. She left in 2020 and I went to a "regular" endocrinologist and am now using liquid Alendronate and have already seen improvement in my bone density. I found out later that my original endocrinologist had received a 1.6 million grant from the Dept. of Defense to conduct research on the vibrating platforms for bone health. She'd already been conducting research on her own before the grant with the founder of Marodyne, Dr Clinton Rubin from Stonybrook in NY. I was, as I'm sure many other patients of hers, were used as "lab rats" for the benefit of both these unethical doctors to try to prove that vibrating platforms can improve bone density. They never did but Marodyne is still selling machines for $3000 as if they are effective. I went from Osteopenia to severe Osteoporosis and I can definitely say it is a scam to line the pockets of unethical doctors and especially Marodyne. I wanted to believe in it because after doing chemo and radiation and long term medicine for cancer, I wanted to not have to take any more drugs. Cancer patients are a particularly vulnerable group to fall for this type of scam because of our experiences already with powerful drugs. In Europe vibrating platforms are only approved for Osteoporosis if they are also used in conjunction with a traditional osteoporosis medication. They are not approved at all in the US. Don't waste your time and money, but most importantly your bone health.

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@tschurch

I used the Marodyne platform for 7 years as it was the only option offered to me by my endocrinologist in 2013 besides Prolia. I had the first shot of Prolia with no problems but the second shot 6 months later I broke out in a rash. That left me only the machine. In spite of declining numbers on each Dexa scan she offered no other solutions. Since I had had breast cancer I was sent to this endocrinologist by my oncologist. This particular endocrinologist was a researcher in the cancer center and only treated breast cancer survivors. She left in 2020 and I went to a "regular" endocrinologist and am now using liquid Alendronate and have already seen improvement in my bone density. I found out later that my original endocrinologist had received a 1.6 million grant from the Dept. of Defense to conduct research on the vibrating platforms for bone health. She'd already been conducting research on her own before the grant with the founder of Marodyne, Dr Clinton Rubin from Stonybrook in NY. I was, as I'm sure many other patients of hers, were used as "lab rats" for the benefit of both these unethical doctors to try to prove that vibrating platforms can improve bone density. They never did but Marodyne is still selling machines for $3000 as if they are effective. I went from Osteopenia to severe Osteoporosis and I can definitely say it is a scam to line the pockets of unethical doctors and especially Marodyne. I wanted to believe in it because after doing chemo and radiation and long term medicine for cancer, I wanted to not have to take any more drugs. Cancer patients are a particularly vulnerable group to fall for this type of scam because of our experiences already with powerful drugs. In Europe vibrating platforms are only approved for Osteoporosis if they are also used in conjunction with a traditional osteoporosis medication. They are not approved at all in the US. Don't waste your time and money, but most importantly your bone health.

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Wow, that is very shocking! There is another person on this site who used hers for 2 years and was very disappointed that her DEXA results did not show improvement either. However, my understanding is that the Marodyne does not build cortical bone but improves bone quality, the inner trabecular bone. I have been hesitant in buying one because of the expense and because I haven't seen any convincing studies or reviews on its effectiveness especially if you are already exercising by doing strength training. However there is a clinical trial that was taking place at the Australian Bone Clinic where they are using the Marodyne with their Liftmor program but the data is not in yet. Also although Marodyne claims they developed the machine with NASA there is no indication that NASA has ever used it for their astronauts to prevent or improve bone loss. So I'm cautious. Thank you for your review and input.

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Dr Clinton Rubin holds the patent on the Marodyne device and is still promoting it, as a medical professional, on YouTube as of October 2022. He conducted the original study for NASA in 2001 which has since been archived by NASA. And now it is advertised on the Marodyne website as originally developed for astronauts. It was a research tool in one study that Dr Rubin did for NASA but has never been approved by NASA in any way. It's a lot of smoking mirrors for the most part.
I know nothing about Dr Rubin personally and had never heard of him until 2013 until my first appointment with my endocrinologist and she gave me a paper they had written, along with his wife, about low intensity vibration and the Marodyne machine specifically. And it could only be the Marodyne. In fact my doctor gave me their business card with the number to call. My problem today is that it is still be promoted by Dr Rubin and Marodyne in vague medical jargon that makes it difficult for the average consumer to decipher exactly what it does do for bone heath.
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast02nov_1
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/marodyne-medical-llc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9fqoY3ZATE
https://marodyne.ca/our-story/

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@tschurch

Dr Clinton Rubin holds the patent on the Marodyne device and is still promoting it, as a medical professional, on YouTube as of October 2022. He conducted the original study for NASA in 2001 which has since been archived by NASA. And now it is advertised on the Marodyne website as originally developed for astronauts. It was a research tool in one study that Dr Rubin did for NASA but has never been approved by NASA in any way. It's a lot of smoking mirrors for the most part.
I know nothing about Dr Rubin personally and had never heard of him until 2013 until my first appointment with my endocrinologist and she gave me a paper they had written, along with his wife, about low intensity vibration and the Marodyne machine specifically. And it could only be the Marodyne. In fact my doctor gave me their business card with the number to call. My problem today is that it is still be promoted by Dr Rubin and Marodyne in vague medical jargon that makes it difficult for the average consumer to decipher exactly what it does do for bone heath.
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast02nov_1
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/marodyne-medical-llc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9fqoY3ZATE
https://marodyne.ca/our-story/

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Sounds like you’ve put time into looking into this more than some others. I actually have purchased a Marodyne and am using it. I have a positive outlook but I realize it will be difficult to assess its specific value for me as I’m doing lots of other things to assist in making my bone situation better. However, I would be curious to see specific reporting that says NASA didn’t use it, as well as specific reporting that’s more current., as what was sited was from 2001. Several years have past. So , I would be curious to see specific reporting that is more current. It takes years to gather data in some instances. Use of the these vibration platforms , the Marodyne, as just one of many on the market, impacts the trabecular areas of the bone. The spine is very much trabecular in nature and to a lesser extent the femoral neck area of the hip. Remember Bone Strength equals Bone Density plus Bone Quality. For many patients bone quality is as important , or more so in terms of actual fracture risk. As more people begin to get their Trabecular Bone Score in addition to the routine DEXA score , I’ll be curious to see if there’s a shift in the thinking. In the meantime I’d love to get more up to date scientific articles. I have an open mind and am all ears!!!

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