Has anyone improved bone density without meds?

Posted by naomid @naomid, Mar 21, 2023

I have a very problematic dental history and will continue to need additional root canals and implants. I also have Sjogren's Syndrome and want to avoid any drugs that cause rheumatic symptoms. Other issues in my health history make all of the meds risky for me. That said, I work out almost daily, lift weights, maintain a healthy diet, take all the recommended supplements, and get most of my calcium nutritionally. My endocrinologist wants me to take an infusion/injectable drug. I dread the side-effects, yet I'm afraid of fracturing, which hasn't happened over the many years I have had osteoporosis. That said, my numbers are getting worse (-3.2 spine, -3.1 hip). I need to do something more than I've been doing, and am at a loss. I need hope and solutions I can be at peace with. Thanks for any comments or suggestions!

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@daisy17 I'm skeptical about that article, simply because they are trying to sell their product. I'm not taking strontium because I think it may burden my kidneys, which are ok, but I've read several times that it makes the kidneys work harder to filter or process it. Same with whey protein powder, makes the kidneys work harder.

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@gargoy What are you skeptical about? The fact that AlgaeCal calcium pills contain trace amounts of strontium?

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@vmcgrantham I haven't heard of goat milk powder, but I drink goat milk kefir. 320 mg of calcium per cup. How much calcium do you all take daily? I was at 750 or 800, but I'm going to increase to 1000. I split that into 2 doses, midday and after dinner. I may take only 750 if I've had calcium from yoghurt that day.
My endocrinologist says I should take 1000 or 1200. I tried to get all my calcium from diet for a few months, but I found that very difficult. If you really do the research on a foods with calcium and exactly how much you need to eat of specific foods, I think you'll find it's rather hard to get up to 1000. I ended up overeating.

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@gargoy Me too! When I add trying to get calcium from food to trying to get the higher levels of protein recommended for seniors, spread out over the day, and I feel like I'm stuffing myself all the time.

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Is this the best supplement to take. Anyone hear about “ complements essential supplements from the food revolution? Vegan platform, ocean robbins. Or bone coach and his supplies, bone health. I’m so confused what to take in conjunction with my recast. Help.

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@shmbrd Lots of research shows that doing an anabolic (building) drug like teriparatide (brand name Forteo) before an anti-resorptive like Reclast (zoledronic acid) gives better outcome.

If you can find any way to afford the Forteo first that is the best initial step that I could find in my reading etc. Following that after 2 years with Romosozumab aka Romo aka brand name Evenity is even better, and I have posted elsewhere on this forum with a link to research on that.

Here is a wonderful, albeit technical, presentation from an Osteoporosis leading researcher/doctor:


You can see the graphs & figures larger at this link. The link is also in the "more" info under the video, but I didn't see it until someone else on this forum pointed it out to me.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/87lfjyrr4vd8qhq29a8k3/LEWIECKI-OK-TO-POST.pptx

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@kfhoz
Great info. Thank you.

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@gargoy Me too! When I add trying to get calcium from food to trying to get the higher levels of protein recommended for seniors, spread out over the day, and I feel like I'm stuffing myself all the time.

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@kfhoz I recently discovered Seen Calcium Chews, which are 100% food based. Each chew contains 500mg calcium, 400IU Vitamin D, plus small amounts of phosphorus and magnesium. The ingredients are organic dates, milk minerals, almonds, milk protein and organic Vitamin D2 mushroom powder. The recommended dose is 1 chew a day. I also take 1/2 dose of a pill form of calcium.

They are available to purchase from their website: https://www.seennutrition.com/
They are kind of expensive. 30 chews cost $35.00 or $29.75 on auto delivery. 90 chews cost $105.00 or $89.25 on auto delivery.

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