Has anyone had a abbot spinal cord stimulator put in?

Posted by jnd2023 @jnd2023, Feb 13, 2024

Hi my name is Joe and new to the group. I have had 10 surgeries on my spine both neck and back. Now as before I deal with chronic pain worse than before all my surgeries. One big reason is scare tissue. I was wondering if anyone has had an Abbott spinal cord stimulator put in. And if it has helped? And how long you have had it installed. I’m thinking this might be my next thing to try. Would appreciate any input you could share. Thank you!

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@adteague

I had a vascular malformation in my thoracic spinal cord. I’ve also had multiple lumbar surgeries and cervical surgeries on discs. All of this required hardware.
I suffered chronic debilitating pain for years and was constantly encouraged by my doctors to try a medical stimulator by Abbott. Being hopeless and frustrated and distraught from dealing with chronic pain I finally succumbed and underwent the surgery.
Nope. I hate to say I’ve had no relief. It doesn’t help.
If I need any help or assistance or question, I have to reach out to my representative, which is next to impossible to reach. Then he acts very annoyed and basically just blows me off. I made it very clear that I have to have MRIs because I have a vascular malformation that could take my life if it ruptures. It requires follow up MRIs occasionally. Each time I try to have an MRI, the controller will not turn the stimulator off exactly the way it is supposed to do so therefore I am left with no MRI. I have just come back from an appointment for an MRI for a new pain probably from another back injury or just more Issues from some previous surgeries. I am in agony and I have missed a weeks worth of work. It is Christmas time. I know the MRI was not going to fix me, but at least it was one step closer to getting an answer and possibly some relief.
Again, we were unable to turn the device off using the controller so they would not proceed with the MRI

When I tried to call my representative, whose name and number are on my card, I reached some lady who has no idea what I’m talking about
Now this card is from Abbott.!!!!! It has my reps name on it and it has his phone number on it. It also includes the model number and other identifying numbers for the generator.
I’ve tried to call Abbott and they’re closed on the weekends.
I’ve tried to call my doctors and they’re closed on the weekend and I can’t get a hold of anybody

What if our in a life-threatening emergency and needed an MRI in order to proceed with something that would save my life?
I guess I would just be out of luck and out of life
I am so frustrated at this point that I am going to insist they remove this thing Monday.

It is a waste of money. It is a waste of time. It is a waste of horrific looking scars on your back. And I assure you, it leaves terrible looking scars where they implant the leads.
Out of 13 surgeries, I’ve had, all of my scars look pretty nice and clean.
The lumbar scar where they placed the leads into my back, looked like a chainsaw chain. The device itself has moved about 2 inches and is now at the top of my buttock where it started out in my flank area.
After a year and a half I was told that my leads had moved. That’s not good.

To be honest with you, I cannot tell you one thing positive about this device.
Except that my surgeon was very nice. But Abbott can’t take any credit for that because he’s a local surgeon who does lots of different kinds of surgeries.

I am so disappointed, frustrated, and downright angry that I cannot contact any representative, and I am having a serious issue and I need it addressed right now. But, there is no one to contact.!!

My advice is, don’t do it

I know 10 people who have done this, and they all say the same thing I say.
Please do not go by the reviews, most of those are generated by AI or bots.

Because I have a spinal cord arterial venous malformation, this could literally take my life.

If it were rupture, I would have to have an MRI in order to determine that that’s what was happening
I can’t have an MRI because I can’t turn the device off. My controller will not turn it off. And I cannot get a hold of anybody or any representatives.!!!
This is frightening.
And as I said before, it has never helped. I’ve never had any relief whatsoever from it. None.
I’ve had the device in for almost 3 years.
The technicians at the MRI center just told me they have never had a patient that had anything positive to say about this stimulator.
There you go

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I am so sorry to hear your frustration. To be close to Christmas, and not have the support from the Abbott staff to be there, after spending countless hours with the stimulator in your spine, and not performing at what we understand to be the magic to counter the pain is over the top.
I hope the phone number a person gave you will help. Please continue to keep this site updated on your condition.

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@adteague

It does nothing for my pain.
The generator has fallen about 2 inches almost down into my buttock from my flank
I get no follow up from my doctor because they referred me to Abbott

Cannot even reach the Abbott representative anymore
Have no phone number for him because apparently that phone number belongs to some person now

I’m having an emergency at this moment, and I cannot turn the device off, and I cannot get a hold of a representative or a doctor, and I cannot get a hold of Abbott.
I am in an emergency situation here and it is the weekend.

My advice is do not do this.

I have never heard anybody say that it has helped them.
Everyone I know says they want it removed and I want mine removed ASAP, especially after the ordeal. I’ve been through this weekend and unable to have a life-saving procedure and cannot get a hold of anybody to help me.

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I have had the Abbott WaveWriter since August 2023 for chronic L5 nerve damage. It has helped until just recently and now I may need another surgery. I had L4-5 fusion in 2020.
My Abbott rep responds within hours and helps me as needed. I've never had an issue with response time. I would tell the surgeon who placed your SCS that the rep isn't replying to you, they will get it handled. It's big bucks for the surgeon with minimal work. Unfortunately this is not the best time of year to get anything done.
I am waiting to find an MRI machine that can do me, otherwise I may see if we can't just do a CT. I had an arthrogram (CT with direct joint injection) of my shoulder vs an MRI prior to that surgery. I may ask if that can be done on my back vs a MRI.
I wish you luck. Pain is a problem.

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@vikkitennis

May I ask how you were able to keep your nerves in check while in the MRI machine for 45 minutes? I had an MRI for the spine in 2023 and due to the Abbott SCS, the tube is more narrow, more deliberate, became uncomfortable and hot. I stopped the test after 25 minutes. I will not repeat an MRI while the SCS is present, as the experience was not a good one. I have had plenty in the past, but will not schedule one unless I am under an anesthetic.

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@vikkitennis I have had several MRIs since having my first SCS implanted in 2017. I tend to be cold blooded, so was never too warm in the MRI tube. But this is a potential issue with any SCS and perhaps some other medical devices. During my last MRI they refused to give me a blanket due to a policy change at the imaging center. Apparently, they had some patients get too warm due to metal medical devices, even if non-ferrous, and would no longer allow blankets for imaging patients with an implanted medical device.

I haven't heard of anyone having an MRI under anesthesia, but I know it's common for doctors to prescribe a Valium tablet for patients who experience anxiety in the MRI tube. Or perhaps imaging in an open MRI system would make the experience better for you.

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@vincescs

@vikkitennis I have had several MRIs since having my first SCS implanted in 2017. I tend to be cold blooded, so was never too warm in the MRI tube. But this is a potential issue with any SCS and perhaps some other medical devices. During my last MRI they refused to give me a blanket due to a policy change at the imaging center. Apparently, they had some patients get too warm due to metal medical devices, even if non-ferrous, and would no longer allow blankets for imaging patients with an implanted medical device.

I haven't heard of anyone having an MRI under anesthesia, but I know it's common for doctors to prescribe a Valium tablet for patients who experience anxiety in the MRI tube. Or perhaps imaging in an open MRI system would make the experience better for you.

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I talked with imaging at the Center in Phoenix, and she mentioned about MRI's in a hospital setting and placing a patient under anesthetic. I inquired about an open MRI, but that isn't possible for SCS patients. Yes, I have heard about the medication a Valium, for relaxation. As I mentioned in the past before the SCS, I have had many MRI's, and sailed through them. I believe it was due to the narrow "tube" that freaked me out after 25 minutes. I was told a CT scan is close to what the medical staff can analyze. I am to see the neurosurgeon today who implanted the SCS and discuss removing it. He is very personal, I like him, and respect him.

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@vincescs

@vikkitennis I have had several MRIs since having my first SCS implanted in 2017. I tend to be cold blooded, so was never too warm in the MRI tube. But this is a potential issue with any SCS and perhaps some other medical devices. During my last MRI they refused to give me a blanket due to a policy change at the imaging center. Apparently, they had some patients get too warm due to metal medical devices, even if non-ferrous, and would no longer allow blankets for imaging patients with an implanted medical device.

I haven't heard of anyone having an MRI under anesthesia, but I know it's common for doctors to prescribe a Valium tablet for patients who experience anxiety in the MRI tube. Or perhaps imaging in an open MRI system would make the experience better for you.

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My friend has to anesthesia for an MRI. She has lots of sensory issues.

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As I’ve said before here, if the SCS isn’t alleviating your pain & it’s causing other issues have it removed! I had the Boston Scientific SCS in 2021 & it never helped. Taking my orthopedic pain Dr’s advice, I had it removed this past February. I know it works for some, but I didn’t want a “foreign body” in my back that I continued to charge weekly & got no relief!

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After much contemplation, I decided on the Abbott Burst in 12/22. Trial performed well, as many people will tell you, yet there is much research to conduct with the SCS once implanted. Burst implant was 2/2023.
epidurals, PT, not ablation (I don't know why the pain management doctor has not considered: could be due to the spinal fusion of L4-S1 in 12/2015) I went for the Abbott. I have been aware of the stimulator since 2019, but waited until much improvements and testing were performed to consider being a candidate.
The Burst was too obtrusive on my slim frame, so another surgery to insert the Eterna. That was 7/2023. Device seemed to work, had several re-programing with the reps, but didn't get to pain going down the leg. I had an MRI to further examine the demise of the spine, and discovered the levoscoiosis has progressed to a 20%, where the curve is concentrated on the left side. I am quite active, and I knew with stretching (more PT) and continue with the sports I love would keep the pain at bay. The stimulator was turned off when going through airport security in October, and I neglected to turn it back on. Oh My! it made me think there wasn't a difference, SCS or not. I met with the neurosurgeon this week, and he told me it performs for 50% of the population, and I gave it "more than a college try" of which I felt good about, and wasn't flippant and decided in two weeks to end it all. Device will be removed in February 2025, and I will go from there. I am able to play tennis, pickleball, walk and ride my bike, while lifting moderate weights. I turn 70 March 2025. What a road to the upcoming birthday!

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