Getting Off of Omeprazole

Posted by Bonnie @nightngale1998, Jun 26, 2018

Hi there: Has anyone had success in weaning off of Omeprazole? I take it for GERD. Thank you in advance!

@musicflowers4u

I drink one cup of instant Kava coffee a day which is acid neutralized and buy it by the case from the company as it doesn’t get shelf space at local grocery stores here. I also drink low acid Tropicana orange juice. I avoid fried foods, spicy food, high fat food and acidic foods. Yet I still need my 40mg omeprazole each day. I have been on it over 30 years and tried substitutes without success. Before omeprazole I would vomit acid so I rely on it to prevent damage to my throat and stomach. No alcohol for me either as a generous serving of Mogan David wine a few years back set me up with a stomach ulcer which was very painful. I am 72 and as long as I stay this course my digestive health is tolerable.

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@mamacita There is a book I read year ago my Doris Rapp called "Is this your child" Great book on Foods that effect children. Processed foods number one cause certain kids to be wild. Also Red food dye…

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@musicflowers4u

I drink one cup of instant Kava coffee a day which is acid neutralized and buy it by the case from the company as it doesn’t get shelf space at local grocery stores here. I also drink low acid Tropicana orange juice. I avoid fried foods, spicy food, high fat food and acidic foods. Yet I still need my 40mg omeprazole each day. I have been on it over 30 years and tried substitutes without success. Before omeprazole I would vomit acid so I rely on it to prevent damage to my throat and stomach. No alcohol for me either as a generous serving of Mogan David wine a few years back set me up with a stomach ulcer which was very painful. I am 72 and as long as I stay this course my digestive health is tolerable.

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I always get white American cheese. I notice a big difference on how my body processes Yellow American cheese versus White American Cheese.

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@travelgirl

@kozlo52 Thank you for sharing. Were you ever tested for H-Pylori? Antacids did not help me either when I had that. It is worth asking and if you are getting an endoscopy they can check for that. That is how they found mine.

Have you tried Aloe Water drinks? They helped my throat the best when it was really bad… Maybe that will work for you. Now question? You say water made your throat worse was it Warm or Ice Cold water? Cold water is harsh at times on my throat. Also what about Honey? Honey and warm chamomile used to seem to help my throat as well. have you tried that? Also another item I took lot was sucrets . It helped numb the pain.

Please share what the is the outcome your procedure.
Praying it is all good.
Jackie

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What about a back DR? Can you they maybe help you with medicine that will help the back pain stop radiating to that area? I would think talking to him first?
But that's my thought, unless zoloft and atavan can cause these issues as well? That I do not know?
But You can see both Dr's, and at least ask them to clarity since the GI Dr. can't find anything?

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@nightngale1998

Thank you for responding, dand48, hopeful33250, Theresa, and destinanna. I still suffer from GERD from a hiatal hernia. I have taken Oemprazole a little over two years and want to get off of the medication because of the associated health issues of poor absorption of key nutrients (D, B12, and calcium are the ones I am familiar with).

My provider, a competent gentleman, has said "hmmmm." I am an RN so am used to doing the research and my own investigation. I have not found evidenced based information / articles on weaning off of Omeprazole. I have heard it can be done and tried to do so but was met with resistance and poor results when I attempted to do so. I switched over to Zantac and the first three days were reasonable and after that it was very uncomfortable).

The celery sounds hopeful and am trying to figure out the mechanism of action for its success. I have tried cider vinegar and it was met with severe cramping.

I am seeking successful scenario's by the valued participants on this board and will do a fair amount of research / experimentation on my own of what works for me. I take responsibility for my nutrition. I am also Lactose intolerant and have a few other sensitivities / intolerances in digestion.I thank you in advance for any additional feedback.

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For six months in 2017 I complained of acid and was popping Gaviscon like candy. GP said to keep taking it if I needed it.
September 2017 I was very sick with the flu for 2 weeks, went to the walk in clinic and chest xray showed 'pneumonia' . 3 courses of antibiotics and 2 months being bed ridden and no change in the chest xray. The coughing was out of control.
I forced myself out of bed and started to get better.
Referral to a respirologist found Micobacterium Letiflavim in my lungs through sputum tests. TB clinic doctor said the amount was so minute that it wasn't the problem and it is not unheard of to have this in the general population as it is found in water.
Puffers were prescribed but they made me cough worse.
Burning became so unbearable I mentioned it to the respirologist and he sent me for Barium swallow. The radiologist said reflux was the worst she has ever seen. Tip me backwards and stomach acids flow right out.
I was put on PPI. I have had both endoscopy and bronchoscopy. They found hiatus hernia but were happy that there has been no damage from the acid in my GI tract.
My CT scans (x3) continue to see on 50% clearing in my lungs. Respirologist is stumped and doesn't understand why it has not cleared up. (they are guessing that all of my acid, while I was bed ridden, was leaking into my lungs and have done damage). His only suggestion is to do a lung biopsy which I have refused so far. They aren't looking for anything specific but rather searching for anything at all to answer the question of what is left in the lungs that they are seeing and can't identify. I said if the lungs have cleared up 50% since the PPI meds, let's wait and see if there continues to be improvement.
Now I am severely deficient in vitamins D and B12 to the point of being critical but GP just said to take supplements and get rechecked in 2 months.
I was the one that brought up the suggestion of the PPI causing the D and B12 deficiency and the GP agreed it could be the reason.
So here I am feeling like crap, still coughing and short of breath. Now my energy level has bottomed out and my bones are stiff and sore.
They have put me on a waiting list to be tested for surgery on the stomach sphincter to see if I am a candidate but I don't know enough about that surgery or if I should even have it. The Gastro specialist says it isn't a one time fix and I may have to have it again in the future.
Is there a specialist that looks at all things combined? My specialists are all looking at their own fields of expertise but I am feeling like someone needs to be looking at the whole picture and combining treatment. Right now it seems like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
They are treating me like an anomaly but I'm feeling like and finding from posts that my situation isn't so unique.
Any thoughts?

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GI dr today prescribed Prilosec for my chronic hoarsenes
20mg twice day before meals. Been hoarse over 2 years.
Another GI dr did endoscopy feb 2017. He just said take Zantac and thought I had general periphial neurapathy.
Otolaryngologist at Baylor in Houston I saw two weeks said it was my age 69. Vocal cords so who do I believe.
But I think it’s my cervical disc stenosis. Since I guess the nerves in disc I assume control the bodies systems.
Like someone said C 3 controls breathing. Is that correct ???

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I have a chronic hparse voice, too. The ENT scooped me, said everything checked out fine, wanted to prescribe omeprozole, but I already take it after a HORRIBLE bout of diverticulitis 3 years ago, diagnosed as GERD. But, I never get heartburn. My pain is a lot lower, in the belly. Now what? Come back in 3 months. Zeeze! Now what?

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Hi There:

I wanted to update y'all to my success in weaning off of Omeprazole. After several unsuccessful attempts, I have now been able to transition to Ranitidine (usually) twice a day. I am a coffee drinker and had to go to Cold Brew (homemade) for my transitions' success. During my change over, I realized I could intake a2 milk (much to my delight and surprise) without any stomach upset. Apparently, I am not lactose intolerant but intolerant of the a1 milk protein. Smaller meals helps and following my (mental) list of acceptable foods with minimal spices. I do live in New Mexico so green chile is a staple and I can indulge but not overdue it.

Praise be! Fingers crossed for continuing success.

R/

Bonnie

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@nightngale1998

Hi There:

I wanted to update y'all to my success in weaning off of Omeprazole. After several unsuccessful attempts, I have now been able to transition to Ranitidine (usually) twice a day. I am a coffee drinker and had to go to Cold Brew (homemade) for my transitions' success. During my change over, I realized I could intake a2 milk (much to my delight and surprise) without any stomach upset. Apparently, I am not lactose intolerant but intolerant of the a1 milk protein. Smaller meals helps and following my (mental) list of acceptable foods with minimal spices. I do live in New Mexico so green chile is a staple and I can indulge but not overdue it.

Praise be! Fingers crossed for continuing success.

R/

Bonnie

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So glad for you. Can you tell me why ranitidine is a better choice than omeprazole? I have tried the switch but ended up back on omeprazole. Thanks.

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@musicflowers4u

So glad for you. Can you tell me why ranitidine is a better choice than omeprazole? I have tried the switch but ended up back on omeprazole. Thanks.

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@nightngale1998 I am interested in musicflowers4u's question also. I am on omeprazole for Barrett's esophagus. I know it can cause some problems for people who are on it long-term. Is ranitidine not that way? When I had cirrhosis but was not yet diagnosed I started on omeprazole and had trouble with it. My doctor tried two other PPIs but they were even worse. When you have cirrhosis everything changes — things are supposed to get filtered through your liver but apparently it is not processing things as usual so medications can cause problems that they would not otherwise cause. If there is a better PPI, that doesn't cause problems for people who are on it for a long time, I would be interested in hearing about it.
Thanks.
JK

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@nightngale1998

Hi There:

I wanted to update y'all to my success in weaning off of Omeprazole. After several unsuccessful attempts, I have now been able to transition to Ranitidine (usually) twice a day. I am a coffee drinker and had to go to Cold Brew (homemade) for my transitions' success. During my change over, I realized I could intake a2 milk (much to my delight and surprise) without any stomach upset. Apparently, I am not lactose intolerant but intolerant of the a1 milk protein. Smaller meals helps and following my (mental) list of acceptable foods with minimal spices. I do live in New Mexico so green chile is a staple and I can indulge but not overdue it.

Praise be! Fingers crossed for continuing success.

R/

Bonnie

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@nightngale1998 and others – I'm curious if anyone has had any success/knows of any difference between Ranitidine (Zantac) and Famotidine (Pepcid)?

I have been on 40mg of Pantoprazole (Protonix), another Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI) since 2011 when a barium swallow showed a small sliding hiatal hernia while investigating the cause of persistent nausea. I recently have been suffering from some chronic health issues since June 2018, still largely undiagnosed, but one of the findings was a low Vitamin B12 (interestingly, I had taken a B12 supplement in August for a month when it was found borderline low at that time, yet my recent reading was even lower than it was then) and a Vitamin D deficiency. One of my doctors suggested Vitamin B12 shots as opposed to the oral supplement because my Pantoprazole could be preventing me from absorbing the vitamins (might be something to ask about @mariannamum ). In return, I asked her if discontinuing the Pantoprazole was something to consider and what the alternative(s) might be (whenever I would forget to take the Pantoprazole, I inevitably ended up with nausea later that day). She said that many people are prescribed PPIs because they only require being taken once daily; the alternative would be to take Zantac or Pepcid twice daily instead. She said a "tapering" schedule for the Pantoprazole was not needed; replacing it with the Zantac/Pepcid would work immediately.

Unfortunately, I've switched to 20mg of Famotidine (Pepcid) twice daily since Wednesday, and suffered from nausea daily (not life-altering, but certainly not pleasant). On the flip side (although possibly unconnected), I had my second B12 shot and third Vitamin D prescription dose on Wednesday, and have felt a marked increase in energy/decrease in the brain fog since then. I don't know for sure it's because it was better absorbed without the PPI — it could just be I needed additional doses before it started working — but it's a possibility.

So my question is, has anyone had success using Zantac instead of Pepcid or are they essentially the same thing?

As a side note, I had an upper endoscopy two months ago that found linear gastropathy/gastritis (although no bleeding or ulcers), despite having been on the PPI for seven years; and the gastroenterologist who performed it said he hadn't seen any evidence of the hiatal hernia. Not sure if/how any of that fits in to all this, but thought I'd mention it.

Any suggestions/insight appreciated; thanks!

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@peabody88

@nightngale1998 and others – I'm curious if anyone has had any success/knows of any difference between Ranitidine (Zantac) and Famotidine (Pepcid)?

I have been on 40mg of Pantoprazole (Protonix), another Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI) since 2011 when a barium swallow showed a small sliding hiatal hernia while investigating the cause of persistent nausea. I recently have been suffering from some chronic health issues since June 2018, still largely undiagnosed, but one of the findings was a low Vitamin B12 (interestingly, I had taken a B12 supplement in August for a month when it was found borderline low at that time, yet my recent reading was even lower than it was then) and a Vitamin D deficiency. One of my doctors suggested Vitamin B12 shots as opposed to the oral supplement because my Pantoprazole could be preventing me from absorbing the vitamins (might be something to ask about @mariannamum ). In return, I asked her if discontinuing the Pantoprazole was something to consider and what the alternative(s) might be (whenever I would forget to take the Pantoprazole, I inevitably ended up with nausea later that day). She said that many people are prescribed PPIs because they only require being taken once daily; the alternative would be to take Zantac or Pepcid twice daily instead. She said a "tapering" schedule for the Pantoprazole was not needed; replacing it with the Zantac/Pepcid would work immediately.

Unfortunately, I've switched to 20mg of Famotidine (Pepcid) twice daily since Wednesday, and suffered from nausea daily (not life-altering, but certainly not pleasant). On the flip side (although possibly unconnected), I had my second B12 shot and third Vitamin D prescription dose on Wednesday, and have felt a marked increase in energy/decrease in the brain fog since then. I don't know for sure it's because it was better absorbed without the PPI — it could just be I needed additional doses before it started working — but it's a possibility.

So my question is, has anyone had success using Zantac instead of Pepcid or are they essentially the same thing?

As a side note, I had an upper endoscopy two months ago that found linear gastropathy/gastritis (although no bleeding or ulcers), despite having been on the PPI for seven years; and the gastroenterologist who performed it said he hadn't seen any evidence of the hiatal hernia. Not sure if/how any of that fits in to all this, but thought I'd mention it.

Any suggestions/insight appreciated; thanks!

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Hi Peabody 88 and others,
I have also been diagnosed with a Hiatal Hernia after having a Stroke! I have also had many swallowing studies as well, because the Stroke severely weakened the muscles in my Esophagus! I choke on some foods , but am doing markedly better, since the Stroke happened on 05/04/01! I have also been consistently nauseaous and usually vomit every morning ! I also have required Vitamin B2 and Vitamin B6! I have been on the gamut of on medications and I am therefore on Ranitidine, which definitely works! I also have Osteoporosis; therefore that's the reason I finally switched to Ranitidine!

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@peabody88

@nightngale1998 and others – I'm curious if anyone has had any success/knows of any difference between Ranitidine (Zantac) and Famotidine (Pepcid)?

I have been on 40mg of Pantoprazole (Protonix), another Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI) since 2011 when a barium swallow showed a small sliding hiatal hernia while investigating the cause of persistent nausea. I recently have been suffering from some chronic health issues since June 2018, still largely undiagnosed, but one of the findings was a low Vitamin B12 (interestingly, I had taken a B12 supplement in August for a month when it was found borderline low at that time, yet my recent reading was even lower than it was then) and a Vitamin D deficiency. One of my doctors suggested Vitamin B12 shots as opposed to the oral supplement because my Pantoprazole could be preventing me from absorbing the vitamins (might be something to ask about @mariannamum ). In return, I asked her if discontinuing the Pantoprazole was something to consider and what the alternative(s) might be (whenever I would forget to take the Pantoprazole, I inevitably ended up with nausea later that day). She said that many people are prescribed PPIs because they only require being taken once daily; the alternative would be to take Zantac or Pepcid twice daily instead. She said a "tapering" schedule for the Pantoprazole was not needed; replacing it with the Zantac/Pepcid would work immediately.

Unfortunately, I've switched to 20mg of Famotidine (Pepcid) twice daily since Wednesday, and suffered from nausea daily (not life-altering, but certainly not pleasant). On the flip side (although possibly unconnected), I had my second B12 shot and third Vitamin D prescription dose on Wednesday, and have felt a marked increase in energy/decrease in the brain fog since then. I don't know for sure it's because it was better absorbed without the PPI — it could just be I needed additional doses before it started working — but it's a possibility.

So my question is, has anyone had success using Zantac instead of Pepcid or are they essentially the same thing?

As a side note, I had an upper endoscopy two months ago that found linear gastropathy/gastritis (although no bleeding or ulcers), despite having been on the PPI for seven years; and the gastroenterologist who performed it said he hadn't seen any evidence of the hiatal hernia. Not sure if/how any of that fits in to all this, but thought I'd mention it.

Any suggestions/insight appreciated; thanks!

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@peabody88 I find these PPIs so confusing. It is said to not take them long term but many of us, me included, have to. I am on Omeprazole for Barrett's Esophagus. I guess it's time to do some research to see if any of them might be better. When I was first prescribed omeprazole it upset my stomach a lot so the gastroenterologist tried two different PPIs but the omeprazole was the least bothersome, and eventually my system adjusted to it.
I appreciate any information that anyone has about these pharmaceuticals since I do need to continue taking them. I believe omeprazole is just prilosec, same dose and everything, but if it's prescribed then insurance covers it.
JK

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I take one prilosec in the am daily and a zantac daily in the evening and that combo works for me. It has been said to reduce the prilosec because of liver issues. I have acid reflux. I do suck on a tums before bed and that combo works for me.

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@johnbishop John l went back to the mayo clinic just came back last week. When l spoke to Dr he told me you don't have cirrhosis or the liver when l come back home it said l did again. I was just discharged from the hospital before l left. But l found out it was the medicines and now they are covering up. And the omprezole was taking was on it to long. Also a medicine l was having an allergic reaction to in 2014 they were still giving it to me. And they never put on my chart l had a reaction to it. I didn't know l was unconscious my daughter found that out. The doctors out here are digging a hole in there own grave. Matter of fact the doctor that put me on the omprezole isn't practicing anymore. He is an alcoholic and he hit and killed someone. And then when l went to the mayo clinic they asked me if l had my mammogram, l said yes and it was normal because they thought there might be something going on. This was last year. I had my mammogram again this year everything was normal they said at first, yesterday l had to have a biopsy because they said they saw something. A year later. My doctors here are a joke. I just thank God l know him because you could lose you mind.

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@techi

@johnbishop John l went back to the mayo clinic just came back last week. When l spoke to Dr he told me you don't have cirrhosis or the liver when l come back home it said l did again. I was just discharged from the hospital before l left. But l found out it was the medicines and now they are covering up. And the omprezole was taking was on it to long. Also a medicine l was having an allergic reaction to in 2014 they were still giving it to me. And they never put on my chart l had a reaction to it. I didn't know l was unconscious my daughter found that out. The doctors out here are digging a hole in there own grave. Matter of fact the doctor that put me on the omprezole isn't practicing anymore. He is an alcoholic and he hit and killed someone. And then when l went to the mayo clinic they asked me if l had my mammogram, l said yes and it was normal because they thought there might be something going on. This was last year. I had my mammogram again this year everything was normal they said at first, yesterday l had to have a biopsy because they said they saw something. A year later. My doctors here are a joke. I just thank God l know him because you could lose you mind.

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Hi Lisa @techi, Thank you for the update. It's really good that you are keeping track of everything. I have no medical training or background but from what I've read the long term usage of any over the counter drug is not good for you. Here are a few articles I've found on omeprazole long term effects.

Popular heartburn drugs linked to higher early death risk
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170705113546.htm

Proton Pump Inhibitors: Review of Emerging Concerns
https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(17)30841-8/fulltext

John

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