Getting nowhere with current Hematologist

Posted by withhope @withhope, 4 days ago

Guess I just need to vent a little bit here… I’ve been seeing the same hematologist for over two years and I’ve made zero progress as far as getting proper treatment for symptoms/side effects for my PV!
This hematologist’s main focus has ALWAYS been my “numbers”. We began treatment with phlebotomies but they did not help. Then I took Hydroxyurea for 18 months which caused multiple problems and side effects and more - but this doctor was “satisfied because my numbers came down.” During those 18 months, my quality of life greatly diminished to the point of me being wheelchair bound and needing home-nursing care for the last 14 months. Nothing I said or requested or discussed with this hematologist ever helped. Whenever I was in need, she was often unavailable or would not respond at all. Plus whatever we discussed at my appointments was often mis-quoted or not acknowledged at all in her summary notes. Needless to say, in addition to now being chronically ill, the added stress and frustration from dealing with this particular doctor has been unbearable!
At my last appointment, her only comment was: “well I guess we were too aggressive with treatment and your quality of life stinks but (she) has no answers as to what to do about that now.”
Unbelievable!!
I typically am a very positive person and I do not like to share negative experiences…. but as I said, I just needed to vent. I kept praying that this hematologist would eventually understand what I was going through and would help me, but I was wrong about that.
Just wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences with a very “incapable doctor” and what did you do that was helpful?
My options for finding another specialist are minimal as the closest ones are 6-8 hours from my home.
Any suggestions?

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If there are good hematologists / cancer specialists 6-8 hours away, it could be worth it to schedule an evaluation appointment and ask if follow up appointments could be managed by video virtual visits. They can order lab tests to be done in your local area and sent to them for monitoring when needed. Since this ET and other myloproliferative disorders are rare, some doctors may not have experience with treatment and other medical distinctions.

I have had many virtual appointments and they work out well.

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@kit491903

If there are good hematologists / cancer specialists 6-8 hours away, it could be worth it to schedule an evaluation appointment and ask if follow up appointments could be managed by video virtual visits. They can order lab tests to be done in your local area and sent to them for monitoring when needed. Since this ET and other myloproliferative disorders are rare, some doctors may not have experience with treatment and other medical distinctions.

I have had many virtual appointments and they work out well.

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Thank you.

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@christina3444

I was diagnosed with PV about five years ago just after moving to another state. I had been with my internist for over 49 years and had great care from him and any MD he referred me to. He told me to find a hematologist quickly and not knowing anyone in my new state, I went with local cancer center. I got off on wrong foot when I refused a weigh in (that’s not the first time that’s happened). I was obese (still am after losing 67 lbs) so I don’t like the fairly obvious confirmation Im fat. Move on I say unless I need an anesthesiologist.
The hematologist there didn’t seem very interested in more than prescribing HU and it was obvious she did not like me asking questions. So, I asked my new neighbors on a neighborhood blog and found the doctor I have now.
I like her, she answered all my questions and she doubled dose of HU and I felt better and now I see her PA more often and she too listens and answers questions.
I know when my hematocrit hits 42. My legs tell me. I had a nurse at the Infusion Center tell me I didn’t need a phlebotomy because my hematocrit wasnt high enough! I told her to get the doctor on the phone. I had the phlebotomy. You have to advocate for yourself!
I complain of exhaustion, pain in my calves primarily. Things got better when I was referred to an internist who prescribed less TV news (really) and physical therapy. He too listened to me and didn’t make me feel like I was only having trouble because of my weight.
May I ask what complications have you in a wheelchair? Have you had PT?
I blame, maybe or maybe not appropriately, as much on my age as I do on the PV and HU. My nails and hair aren’t what they were, I have neuropathy in both feet (no, not diabetic), my eyes aren’t as good as they were, my grip isn’t as good as it was, but I know it’s more old age or it’s a major contributing factor.
Maybe it’s the PV/HU? This week my leg and knee are killing me. Ive diagnosed tendinitis and have taken some pain med and am icing it with pretty good results but I suppose it could be the PV…to me it doesn’t matter.
Everyone needs to vent now and again. And, my experience is that a lot of people like to share their ailments but shut down when it’s your turn to share yours. So, this forum works except for the lack of coffee and snacks while we “talk”😉
I have a lot of respect and affection for the doctors I had/have that listen to me and explain what they are thinking and why a particular course of treatment but I always remember something my mother used to say, with deference to doctors everywhere, “There’s a reason they call them PRACTICING physicians…”
Feel better and feel free to bellyache!

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Thank you for your encouraging message. May God bless you on your Journey.

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@christina3444

I was diagnosed with PV about five years ago just after moving to another state. I had been with my internist for over 49 years and had great care from him and any MD he referred me to. He told me to find a hematologist quickly and not knowing anyone in my new state, I went with local cancer center. I got off on wrong foot when I refused a weigh in (that’s not the first time that’s happened). I was obese (still am after losing 67 lbs) so I don’t like the fairly obvious confirmation Im fat. Move on I say unless I need an anesthesiologist.
The hematologist there didn’t seem very interested in more than prescribing HU and it was obvious she did not like me asking questions. So, I asked my new neighbors on a neighborhood blog and found the doctor I have now.
I like her, she answered all my questions and she doubled dose of HU and I felt better and now I see her PA more often and she too listens and answers questions.
I know when my hematocrit hits 42. My legs tell me. I had a nurse at the Infusion Center tell me I didn’t need a phlebotomy because my hematocrit wasnt high enough! I told her to get the doctor on the phone. I had the phlebotomy. You have to advocate for yourself!
I complain of exhaustion, pain in my calves primarily. Things got better when I was referred to an internist who prescribed less TV news (really) and physical therapy. He too listened to me and didn’t make me feel like I was only having trouble because of my weight.
May I ask what complications have you in a wheelchair? Have you had PT?
I blame, maybe or maybe not appropriately, as much on my age as I do on the PV and HU. My nails and hair aren’t what they were, I have neuropathy in both feet (no, not diabetic), my eyes aren’t as good as they were, my grip isn’t as good as it was, but I know it’s more old age or it’s a major contributing factor.
Maybe it’s the PV/HU? This week my leg and knee are killing me. Ive diagnosed tendinitis and have taken some pain med and am icing it with pretty good results but I suppose it could be the PV…to me it doesn’t matter.
Everyone needs to vent now and again. And, my experience is that a lot of people like to share their ailments but shut down when it’s your turn to share yours. So, this forum works except for the lack of coffee and snacks while we “talk”😉
I have a lot of respect and affection for the doctors I had/have that listen to me and explain what they are thinking and why a particular course of treatment but I always remember something my mother used to say, with deference to doctors everywhere, “There’s a reason they call them PRACTICING physicians…”
Feel better and feel free to bellyache!

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I like you! Your comments are amusing! I hate getting on the scale too. I also have a hematologist but for low platelets and B12 def. I have the same knee issues and found Osteo-Biflex takes away all the knee pain as mine is a cartilage issue. Doctor recommended it!

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@catherine1290

I like you! Your comments are amusing! I hate getting on the scale too. I also have a hematologist but for low platelets and B12 def. I have the same knee issues and found Osteo-Biflex takes away all the knee pain as mine is a cartilage issue. Doctor recommended it!

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Thanks. I’ve found if I laugh at some of life’s problems then I can’t cry about them.
I may give the Osteo-Biflex a try. I take Krill Oil and I think that helps joint pain.

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@nohrt4me

Similar problems trying to get my hemo oncology office to respond to anything. I lost questions thru my e-chart, and they fall into a black hole. I would ask your PC if he could refer you to the far-away specialist for an eval and coordinate care through the PC. Your PC may not want to, but worth a shot.

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I agree. You have to get a little snarky sometimes to advocate for yourself, unfortunately. I’m a retired RN & if I so much as get a little put out with a Dr, I won’t go back. And I have no problem telling the new Dr the problem with the previous one.
However, I live near Houston, so I have many drs I can ‘move on to’.
You should not have to live like this. Get your PCP to refer you the far away Dr; you deserve a second opinion at the very least!
Blessings & keep us posted please.

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@shmerdloff

The red flags have not been waving you in. I have great md s who listen and are attuned. I have another who is "numbers." He wants my bp and sugar at levels for someone 60 years younger. If I don't "get them down," more pills. The other docs took me off some of the pills. He says diabetic. Others say pre diabetic. One says "You are not diabetic. " Finger stick 114. We have to be in charge of our own care, but walk a fine line so as not to be a difficult patient, Gd forbid.

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Every pill we swallow has its own side-effect profile, so we can end up getting side effects from the meds we take for side effects of chemo. I have to accept that the gift of longer life that chemo gave me came with a price of these annoying side effects. Some side effects I accept and live with, some I can take meds for. That’s the choice we have. I can wish that our specialists were more forthright about this issue.

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@margaretsue

Every pill we swallow has its own side-effect profile, so we can end up getting side effects from the meds we take for side effects of chemo. I have to accept that the gift of longer life that chemo gave me came with a price of these annoying side effects. Some side effects I accept and live with, some I can take meds for. That’s the choice we have. I can wish that our specialists were more forthright about this issue.

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One brilliant doctor who was totally up front with me quoted his mentor about meds: "They are all poisons. Some just have good side effects."
A little harsh but righteous.

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@margaretsue

Every pill we swallow has its own side-effect profile, so we can end up getting side effects from the meds we take for side effects of chemo. I have to accept that the gift of longer life that chemo gave me came with a price of these annoying side effects. Some side effects I accept and live with, some I can take meds for. That’s the choice we have. I can wish that our specialists were more forthright about this issue.

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Welcome to Connect, @margaretsue. You sound like the voice of experience with having to take meds and chemotherapy treatments. It is a crazy decision we have to make in our pursuit to buy more precious time, isn’t it? I’ve been there too and my team of oncologists were very forthcoming about the potential side effects. But nothing can prepare you for ‘what you’ve been told vs what you actually feel.’ 🥴

If you don’t mind sharing a little more about your journey, I’d be happy to help “Connect” you with other members who may share your same experience. What was your cancer diagnosis?

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Good Morning,

I'm an RN in the Houston area, too. I was shocked when I received my diagnosis of PV..I'm not timid speaking with Doctors..When I asked a question the first hemotologist said 'don't ask me questions like that" Right then I decided he wasn't a good fit. The second hemotologist is just too busy to give me what I thought I needed so on to the third hemotologist and she's perfect. I'm lucky to live close to MDAnderson and it's fantastic. I trust the doctor implicitly...You didn't mention your age I'm 77 everyday isn't perfect but I know I'm getting the best care possible. If you don't feel like you're not getting what you need then you should move on to another Hemotologist quickly. Ive read Mays Clinic has hematologist's that only care for PV pts. The nurse who suggested pick a doctor at a large academic institution and start with an audio visit, she's right! I feel bad you're in a wheelchair especially when you don't feel comfortable with your doctor and care. Move on life is fragile..

Jacqueline Carey

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