Facial Swelling - no diagnosis

Posted by lily2013 @lily2013, Jan 22, 2018

The illness that I am about to write about has occurred over the last two years and is still ongoing. Two years ago this month I noticed the beginning of facial swelling. It started on both eyelids and then migrated to both cheeks and then to my Parotid glands. Within two months my face was noticeably puffy and swollen. To this day, the facial swelling is still there and NO other parts of my body have been affected.

Initial trips to my primary care physician, Emergency Room visits, two ENT’s and an allergist yielded zero results and no opinions of what was possibly wrong. Following that I made the decision to go to a holistic doctor. He ran multiple blood tests, allergy tests(high yeast count which prompted him to put me on the Candida diet; this did nothing), thyroid tests (low Normal results, he suggested Synthroid but recommended the diet initially). Acknowledging that there may be something bigger than he could handle he recommended me to a special diagnostic clinic at Emory Hospital in Atlanta.

The unit at Emory consisted of a number of specialists who saw patients with undiagnosed conditions. The disciplines they represented included; ENT, Hematologist, Rheumatologist, Endocrinologist, Immunologist. Over the course of three months I had individual appointments with each group. The bloodwork that each doctor ordered came back with no indication of any illness outside of a low white blood count and low platelet count. As part of this process I also had chest x-rays, biopsy of sub-mandibular gland, head and neck CT scan, Bone marrow biopsy which also came back normal. I left Emory because they told me that they couldn’t identify what was wrong with me and frankly didn’t have any defined next steps.

I then decided to go to an infectious disease doctor and all of the tests that were run came back negative; Lymes disease, infections etc… The doctor could clearly see my facial swelling and she recommended that I go back to a rheumatologist, which I did.

The Rheumy, who I have been going to for the last 5 months, reviewed all of my past history of blood test results and previous doctor’s notes. He diagnosed me with what he termed an immune deficiency which he felt was manifesting as an auto-immune disease, even though all my blood work never revealed any markers for any known auto-immune diseases and I don’t exhibit any symptoms from the neck down. He prescribed a course of Prednisone over a 6-week period/20mg/10mg/5mg (facial swelling was extremely responsive and face looked normal BUT swelling returned within three days of going off the steroids). He then prescribed plaquenol with a low dose of prednisone(5mg) which I have been on for 90 days now and the swelling has not gone away. My Rheumy has mentioned going on either, Azathioprine, Methatrexate or Sulfasalazine to see what that would do but I have opted not to because I feel that I need a valid diagnosis prior to taking any drug like that.

I am not sure if this is truly a rheumatological or an endocrine issue. I have exhibited zero markers for a rheumatological disease and only a low normal for thyroid disease. I am writing to see if anyone out there has experienced a similar situation, I am at a total loss as to where to go next. Any shared thoughts and ideas are welcome.

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Hi. As I read what you wrote there was one constant thought! Go to Mayo Clinic…from all I have heard they are the best and..you have all the test already. You have really been through it and I know you’re frustrated..I know I would be. Good luck.

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I have the same thing going on right now. No one can figure it out and it's been 6 months and the swelling is now spreading to the other side of my face. I've had a ton of. Antibiotics , steroids were the only thing that brought my face back to normal but then the inflammation would come back a few days later. My family has no history of Lupus or autoimmune diseases. All my labs and imaging come back clear ..no mass no fluid no abscess. Help! What did you find out?

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@missjoyce22

I have the same thing going on right now. No one can figure it out and it's been 6 months and the swelling is now spreading to the other side of my face. I've had a ton of. Antibiotics , steroids were the only thing that brought my face back to normal but then the inflammation would come back a few days later. My family has no history of Lupus or autoimmune diseases. All my labs and imaging come back clear ..no mass no fluid no abscess. Help! What did you find out?

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Is there pain associated with this swelling?

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@victoriabirdie

Is there pain associated with this swelling?

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More like tenderness because it's swelling so much

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@missjoyce22

I have the same thing going on right now. No one can figure it out and it's been 6 months and the swelling is now spreading to the other side of my face. I've had a ton of. Antibiotics , steroids were the only thing that brought my face back to normal but then the inflammation would come back a few days later. My family has no history of Lupus or autoimmune diseases. All my labs and imaging come back clear ..no mass no fluid no abscess. Help! What did you find out?

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I have had this for a year, but it came on after covid shots. I learned that I had an intolerance for histamine anywhere in my diet or any topicals that might cause the inflammation. Mast Cell over-reactions are more common than we realize. I went on a low to no, histamine diet……every time I veer from it the inflammation creeps back. I only have it on my face and it turns into little pops on my skin….the mast cell is angry!! But the entire face swells. It was and is diet controlled. It took a lot of study and time to figure out my foods and drinks…..and I’m not complaining as I have my little food group and thats it. The inflammation can make me feel sooooo tired and lethargic as well…..and depressed. So you might deep dive study on this. Beth O’Hara and Becky Campbell have the two most helpful sites on this that I have found, esp for women. I take Dr Campbell’s vitamin line call Optimal Reset to reset my histamine levels and I’ve learned to stay on it, in my case. There is a LOT to learn but so worth it. I got my face back!! Good Luck!

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@terrirussell

I have had this for a year, but it came on after covid shots. I learned that I had an intolerance for histamine anywhere in my diet or any topicals that might cause the inflammation. Mast Cell over-reactions are more common than we realize. I went on a low to no, histamine diet……every time I veer from it the inflammation creeps back. I only have it on my face and it turns into little pops on my skin….the mast cell is angry!! But the entire face swells. It was and is diet controlled. It took a lot of study and time to figure out my foods and drinks…..and I’m not complaining as I have my little food group and thats it. The inflammation can make me feel sooooo tired and lethargic as well…..and depressed. So you might deep dive study on this. Beth O’Hara and Becky Campbell have the two most helpful sites on this that I have found, esp for women. I take Dr Campbell’s vitamin line call Optimal Reset to reset my histamine levels and I’ve learned to stay on it, in my case. There is a LOT to learn but so worth it. I got my face back!! Good Luck!

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I'm going to an allergy specialist today. Do you think they can determine that there? I will propose that to them as well. Thank you so much. All i want is my face back. I never had Covid shots either

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@missjoyce22

I'm going to an allergy specialist today. Do you think they can determine that there? I will propose that to them as well. Thank you so much. All i want is my face back. I never had Covid shots either

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Absolutely propose it……but I will tell you that the Mast Cell Activation problem is not very well understood by medical doctors since the treatment for it is diet change! To get all the info you need for that you could just go to either site I mentioned. The Mayo Clinic actually advised me to go to Beth O’Hara site so they are clearly comfortable about her. She is amazing! But her colleague is Dr Becky Campbell and they have worked together on different things. The thing you need to know is that YOU have to figure out which thing is doing this to you by process of elimination. I started by going on their elimination diet and then adding back one food at a time. I would write down any reaction and eliminate that food……you start w NO gluten, sugar, breads, carbohydrates….and only certain vegetables. The list is on line. Everybody’s list is different though so I would go w either Beth’s or Becky’s because it’s too complicated to do by yourself! …..good luck!

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